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Florida Court Prohibits Terri's Parents From Joining "Terri's Law" Battle (ACLJ)
LifeNews.com ^ | November 4, 2003 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 11/04/2003 4:45:08 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Deep_6
Because there's no proof of anything to provide to a court; there is no case against Terri's husband.

Is Michael Schiavo openly cohabitating with another woman? And has he engaged in sexual relations with that woman?

If the answer to those questions is yes (and, unless Michael wants to claim very odd reproductive habits, the existence of his children by the other woman would suggest sexual relations), then by Florida statute, Michael is not fit to be Terri's guardian.

61 posted on 11/04/2003 6:20:31 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: nickcarraway
Praying for Terri bump

Thank you and the other FReepers for continuing to post articles about Terri, I've been terribly busy and haven't had much time for the internet lately, but I can always count on you folks to keep me informed.

62 posted on 11/04/2003 6:22:30 PM PST by Ferret Fawcet (Jesus: He paid a debt He did not owe because I owed a debt I could not pay.)
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To: Ethan_Allen
Let me try again, Ethan...

Re:
"Justice is legally blind in Florida"

Terri's family has never filed any suit against Terri's husband,
any insinuations or accusations are made out of court.

With all that they've spent fighting the husband, if any of the
charges carried any truth, why the hell didn't Terri's family
make the charge and fight for legal guardianship?

Can't figure that out? Or will you recite the idle chants
of the ignorant and tell me the judge was crooked; the doctors
were paid off by Terri's husband; medical reports were
lost.... etc..

Heart wrenching idiocy.

 

63 posted on 11/04/2003 6:25:13 PM PST by Deep_6
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To: supercat

Development of a Conflict of Interest Between the Ward and the Guardian -§744.474 (11)
# Serious conflicts of interest have arisen since the appointment of Schiavo as guardian. This guardian is not independent and impartial as required by Fla. Stat. § 744.446 (1), and Schiavo has used his fiduciary relationship to advance his private gain at the expense of Terri’s life. Schiavo admitted in his petition to withhold Terri’s food and hydration, dated May 8, 1998, that he will inherit the Ward’s estate and further admitted the likelihood that he would remarry.
# This is more than a likelihood now. Schiavo has moved in with his mistress and fathered her baby. The Second District Court of Appeal noted in this case that "there may be occasions when an inheritance could be a reason to question a surrogate’s ability to make an objective decision." In re Schiavo, 780 So.2d 176, (Fla. 2d DCA 200 1)("Schiavo 1"). There is now more than an inheritance at stake: a baby will continue to be denied a legally- recognized father every day that Terri lives.
# Schiavo has repeatedly claimed that divorce will never be an option for him. This leaves only one option for his life plans: Terri’s death.
["There is a likelihood in the foreseeable future that Petitioner may remarry." Petition for Authorization to Discontinue Artificial Life Support, etc., (May 8, 1998). Given the birth of his child, that likelihood must now be a certainty].

http://www.terrisfight.org/Headlines/Guardianship.htm
64 posted on 11/04/2003 6:25:31 PM PST by Krodg (I believe, I pray and I fight.)
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To: Legerdemain
it is not your place to judge

It is my place to speak up and stop murder. I just love it how people like you feel free to judge others who have morals and at the same time, tell people like me not to judge. Hypocrite.

65 posted on 11/04/2003 6:26:26 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: gooleyman
They dont like disabled people in public view.
They dont want them around,as it greatly disturbs them.
It makes them very uncomfortable to see a quadraplegic in public.
It offends them when a mentally retarded human being carefully and competantly packs groceries in a bag at the store, smiles at them, and says have a nice day!
They resent the intrusion of reality into their shallow lives.
Who knows "why" they want Terri Schiavo to die by court ordered starvation and dehydration?
I doubt they spend much time thinking seriously about a living human entity.
They are more concerned with measuring human worth in a right to live case.
Shall we allow "them" to define what is a legal human life?
Is life itself now subject to a legal definition?
One need not be Christian to understand evil in action.




66 posted on 11/04/2003 6:26:42 PM PST by sarasmom (Pray for TerriSchiavo. Everything I post is my opinion, unless otherwise stipulated.)
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To: sport
Michael himself knows that the bs you are spouring about Terri's condition is just that, bs. Else he would have no problems with having her video taped and given swallow tests, among others. Because if she failed these tests and was as bad off as he, you, and the media portray her, it would win his case. Hands down. As it is , you both know what you are

I find it funny that these people love to forget that there were at least 3 swallow tests given....and she did fail the swallow tests.

BTW, Deep6 I know what you are...ah, er, a rational person not riddled with emotion?

67 posted on 11/04/2003 6:28:15 PM PST by Legerdemain
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To: Deep_6
Why don't you at least frame it correctly. This is NOT a right to die case, it is a right to murder case.!!
68 posted on 11/04/2003 6:30:17 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: nicmarlo
not murder...take the tube out and see if she lives......how is that murder...sheesh....

ah...the do as I say, not as I do style of godsquad. You are not making any brownie points.
69 posted on 11/04/2003 6:30:24 PM PST by Legerdemain
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To: kenth
...But, let's pick and choose the law...

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I agree they want to pick and choose which law applies, but those laws had to be passed through congress just like the law that saved her life this time. The law of the land now gave Jeb the power to do what he did and I'm glad he did.

Since her "husband" has chosen to use the money meant for her care to pay lawyers to have he killed. Let's make him use up the rest of it and see what he does when there's no more money to be gotten. He'll probably just divorce her then like he should do now. He never had any intentions of caring for her. (I guess if he did, he wouldn't have strangled her now would he? Allegedly, of course)
70 posted on 11/04/2003 6:30:59 PM PST by gooleyman
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To: Legerdemain
Terri's family do not have a horse in this race...

If they did, you'd probably shoot it.

71 posted on 11/04/2003 6:32:53 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: gooleyman
The law of the land now gave Jeb the power to do what he did and I'm glad he did.

and that law is unconstitutional, and will be ruled as such very soon. Again, I say after 13 years, pull the tube and see if she "gets better".

72 posted on 11/04/2003 6:33:00 PM PST by Legerdemain
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To: Legerdemain
When?
73 posted on 11/04/2003 6:33:08 PM PST by sport
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To: Old Professer
if the horse were PVS after 13 years, I would pull the plug....
74 posted on 11/04/2003 6:33:59 PM PST by Legerdemain
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To: Deep_6
With all that they've spent fighting the husband, if any of the
charges carried any truth, why the hell didn't Terri's family
make the charge and fight for legal guardianship?


See post 56. It's long but I'm sure your lips won't get too tired.
75 posted on 11/04/2003 6:34:00 PM PST by wisconsinconservative ("...then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak out for me.")
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To: Deep_6
You're absolutely correct. It's called a "living will" and in its absence, the decision is at the hands of your spouse, then next of kin. In the absence of either, the courts will make the decision based on credible medical information alone. In all situations, a complete medical diagnosis/prognosis is absolute. In Terri's situation, all criteria were met.

I guess you did not understtand what I wrote. So I will try to make it clear. In my opinion a written will written by the person in question should be the only mechanism used to remove life support. Absent of this a person needs to be declared brain dead in order to carry out removal from life support. In Terri's case none of this criteria has been met.

76 posted on 11/04/2003 6:35:19 PM PST by blueriver
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To: Legerdemain
What's her wishes?

Ya gonna believe HIS story?

Why? Casually remembering something 8 years AFTER she supposedly said it, and only AFTER his 500,000.00 pro-death attorney has run through the money given explicitly to provide long term care and therapy.

All ofwhich was denied by MS.
77 posted on 11/04/2003 6:36:35 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Lion in Winter
Note his name....deep6.... means to kill somebody...as in A mob killing.... and hiding the body.... bags of cement...deep body of water... it's then, the DEEP SIX for Terri!!

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I see. But when the Mob deep sixes someone, don't they have a reason. Don't they usually have something to gain by getting someone out of the way. Not speaking from any particular experience, but a Mobster is the best friend to have as long as you stay on their good side. These people must have some reason to deep 6 Terri. I just want to know what it is. They don't seem to want to answer it though.
78 posted on 11/04/2003 6:36:40 PM PST by gooleyman
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To: Legerdemain
I know it's hard for you to understand this: intentionally withholding nourishment = starvation = leads to death = murder.
79 posted on 11/04/2003 6:37:03 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Legerdemain
And, if I were both cruel and stupid, I might pull my own plug but I wouldn't pull yours.
80 posted on 11/04/2003 6:37:36 PM PST by Old Professer
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