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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 3-4, 2003
Various | November 3, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/02/2003 11:25:14 PM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Daily Thread 4 - November 3-4, 2003)
Link back to thread 3 - (Nov. 1-2)

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Contained in thread 3"

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More questionable connections between The Jerger Co., the new doctor and the mistress, update on the prayer vigil, connections between Judge Demers and the new Guardian ad litum, Jay Wolfson, link to information on Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, comparison to Indiana case involving starving Down's Syndrome infants, PC93 launches Terri's life ribbon campaign, more information on Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, connection between George Felos and Mary Labyak of Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, update from the vigil, link to legal summary of the case, information on Mary Labyak, contact information for Florida law enforcement and courts, story of John Douglas, link to doctor's exam and nursing notes, update on Terri and upcoming talk shows, information in the mistress, story of Margaret Logan and the story of the first time Terri's feeding tube was removed.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

Thanks again to everyone for all your hard work.

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Latest Threads On Terri's Case

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Judge Makes USF Professor Schiavo's Guardian Ad Litem

Schiavo case deserves less-reckless handling

Fight over woman's feeding tube leaves husband's life in limbo (Terri Schiavo)

Schiavo lawyer: New Age mystic

Husband challenges law that keeps his wife alive


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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To: sweetliberty
How the heck can a part of the brain just "disappear," anyway? I've done medical transcription for over 15 years, and never has any doctor said that a person's frontal cortex, or any other part of the brain, just wasn't there. You can definitely have atrophy of the brain, but that's not the same thing!! Whoever cooked up the phrase about her brain being gone and the hole just filled up with cerebrospinal fluid?
301 posted on 11/05/2003 1:38:24 AM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: Orlando
Pass a law like Florida "Terri law"...

President Bush passed Amber Alert nationally, so why not Terri's Law if he supports his brother's decision?

302 posted on 11/05/2003 1:41:41 AM PST by JustPiper (18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: pbmaltzman
I have been thinking the same thing. I have been doing medical transcription for 25+ years - never heard this - and I have heard some pretty WEIRD things!

303 posted on 11/05/2003 2:19:40 AM PST by fawn796
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To: MarMema
Could you give more details on this project in N.Y., I would like to read about it and email it to a friend.
Thanks
304 posted on 11/05/2003 4:21:29 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: Theodore R.
I was told one time by a wise person that some people feed off of attention. The worse possible thing you can do to them is ignore them.
Let's just pray for them and let God handle it.
305 posted on 11/05/2003 4:36:07 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: tutstar
Thank you very much for the links!

Judge Greer is out of it, IMO, how he can consistently rule for M is way beyond my understanding...

I have heard that the Schindler's representation has been incompetent. If so that is a shame. But from what I have read Greer has summarily dismissed and ignored what the Schindler side has brought before him. If he were fair he would recongnize the incompetence and could work around it. Judges have some latitude in that.

I'm no lawyer but I'm no dummy either....

Could there be a connection?

306 posted on 11/05/2003 5:13:01 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope." - Terri Schiavo)
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To: kenth
Yea, Friday nights have the lowest TV ratings as a rule. I think Sunday nights have the highest ratings.
307 posted on 11/05/2003 5:26:26 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: pickyourpoison
http://books.nap.edu/html/children_die/AppH.pdf
308 posted on 11/05/2003 6:47:47 AM PST by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: pbmaltzman
"Whoever cooked up the phrase about her brain being gone and the hole just filled up with cerebrospinal fluid?"

I would venture a guess that it was George Felos, assuming, as he seems to be want to do, that the masses of idiots, so intellectually inferior to him, would be too stupid to question him. I expect that most of his adoring "audiences" are democRATs of the new age, communazi persuasion; koolaid drinkers that are not exactly on the cutting edge of critical thought processes. And did anybody else think that those "brain scans" being waved about on Larry King Live, were nothing more than a stage prop?

309 posted on 11/05/2003 6:53:35 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: pickyourpoison
Foundation watch

OSI

research

310 posted on 11/05/2003 7:04:53 AM PST by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Good point re: the ACLU. I guess it's harder to kill someone than it is to let them live. IN TERRI'S CASE WE HAVE A CLEAR CASE OF GENDER BIAS against Terri and her family.

I'M STILL WAITING FOR A REAL INVESTIGATION. Terri's Angels

311 posted on 11/05/2003 7:23:12 AM PST by freeparoundtheclock (TERRISFIGHT.ORG - Go to Hospice Woodside Make a Sign "TERRI'S ANGELS")
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To: MarMema

Thanks for the info.
312 posted on 11/05/2003 8:32:42 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: All
Am glued to the Terri Schiavo case. She deserves a better guardian and better life. I will write and phone anyone who can influence that.
313 posted on 11/05/2003 2:33:43 PM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: Aliska
>>"persistent carnivorative state"...

excellent post! thanks
314 posted on 11/05/2003 5:32:14 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: cyn
Thanks for the flag. Yes, I did briefly see the song. However, I've finally completed indexing, by date, all of the FreeRepublic.com 'Terri' threads.

There are four hundred and eighteen ( 418 ) of them at this moment.

It's on a Quattro Pro file, and I'm trying to figure out how to put the file on the internet and link it to FR for FReeper review. I want to post it to the internet as a read only file, and I'll simply renew it ( replace it ) daily.

315 posted on 11/06/2003 12:42:04 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: cyn; sweetliberty
"Thanks for the flag. Yes, I did briefly see the song. However, I've finally completed indexing, by date, all of the FreeRepublic.com 'Terri' threads."

What I meant......

I saw it, but didn't have time to really get into it. This indexing project has had me going since sweetliberty started this daily thread on October 29th.

316 posted on 11/06/2003 12:49:01 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson; aculeus; ambrose; amdgmary; AnimalLover; AnnaZ; Auntie Mame; Autie; ...
Congratulations to you, each and everyone of you for doing your part to focus America's consciousness on the most shameful abuse of authority in the history of American governance.

A total of one hundred and forty-seven ( 147 ) of you took the time to rally Americans within your sphere of influence to the gross injustice being perpetrated within one state of our great country.

While we shook a collective finger of distain at the State of Florida, we also recognize the greed of a financially lucrative body parts industry, and the incredulous potential for extortion of wealth from the elderly and similarly vulnerable victims within 'the system'. They are like clay in the hands of the unscrupulous leaches in government and organized religion in every state, county and community of our country.

In His way our Heavenly Father gave each of you a very special task of bringing this evil into the light. And you responded admirably in questioning the legitimacy and morality of actions taken by those acting in our name - actions no fair minded American Citizen would approve or condone.

Until 0213 PST this morning, FreeRepublic.com has hosted a total of four hundred and eighteen threads, and thousands of posts on this one subject, beginning with the first thread posted by Coleus on 5 May 2002 titled, Terri Schiavo Needs Your Help.

Read it again. Slowly.

Until 0213 PST this morning, FreeRepublic.com has hosted a total of four hundred and eighteen ( 418 ) threads, and ( thousands of posts )on this one subject, beginning with the first thread posted by Coleus on 5 May 2002 titled, Terri Schiavo Needs Your Help.

Jim Robinson and his family have steadily performed this Herculean task for years, and it's only when you take a hard look at a small (comparatively) body of work, as contained in Terri's Threads on FreeRepublic.com do you begin to grasp the volume of communication we 'expect' of them. Give it a minute to open up. It's a big file.

While at the same time it is at a time like this that I deeply sense the 'Terri' effort is a vivid representation the 'true grit' of the American spirit - our collective willingness to challenge injustice of any kind, anywhere.

I've got to tell you, I've got a tear in my eye right now about how proud I am to be able to call myself an American.

There are times when some of what we hear from foreigners about ourselves is true - that we may be a lot of things, but we will not - WE WILL NOT - stand by and watch anyone treated like they're more contemptible than the lowest creature on earth. Especially and I mean especially within our own Christian nation.

They took the manger away from us, and they've taken a lot away from us that made us proud of our flag and our country. But as for me, the Baby Jesus and the whole manger set will be on my front lawn this Christmas.

Once again, God bless each and everyone of you for all you're doing to stop the fast buck body snatchers and dumb ass politico's from attacking the very people who did their fair share when it was their turn to stand up for America.

They're old and defenseless now, and we owe them. We owe them big time to be sure they live that's l-i-v-e folks, NOT die with dignity.

Thank God Almighty for the presence of men and women like the Robinson family for creating FreeRepublic.com to give America a nudge once in a while. We're all too busy working a couple of jobs in every family to keep an eye on the dummies we misname. There is nothing 'honorable' about Judge Greer, and the trouble is the more we look into this sewer 'system' the more scum we're finding.

Once again FReepers, I want to take this time to say that in spite of the fact that it seems some of you have trouble getting your head through a doorway, it's obvious your heart's where it needs to be.

I'm glad to be walking with you!!!

317 posted on 11/06/2003 7:02:12 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Robert Drobot
Robert how very touching, your post. For six years I do not know what I would have done without FR. I am an oldtime activist and proud American and will always fight the good fight so long as I am taking a breath, my three children and grandchildren are also being raised this way, my Mother's proud conservative legacy -smiles- . Proud to meet you Robert!
318 posted on 11/06/2003 7:06:24 AM PST by JustPiper (18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: Coleus; Matthew Paul; chicagolady; Brad's Gramma
I wanted to share Robert with all of you -g-
319 posted on 11/06/2003 7:07:51 AM PST by JustPiper (18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: Robert Drobot
+ To God be the Glory ...

Proud to be walking with you, Robert, and this wonderful band of FReepers ...

320 posted on 11/06/2003 7:08:56 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Robert Drobot
AMEN!

Very well said Robert. God bless you.
321 posted on 11/06/2003 7:15:53 AM PST by wisconsinconservative (Christian, Conservative.......and proud of it)
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To: cyn
want to be sure you see 317
322 posted on 11/06/2003 7:22:45 AM PST by tutstar
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To: Robert Drobot
That says a lot RD, we have just done what was right. Good to be walking with you too.
323 posted on 11/06/2003 7:23:59 AM PST by tutstar
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To: Robert Drobot
Thank you Robert for these wonderful words of tribute to Our God, and to Free Republic. We too will have a MANGER SCENE on the lawn for Christmas. I think it would be good to start a " MANAGER PROJECT" for Christmas 2003....." A Manger on every Christian families lawn"........
LET'S ROLL FREEPERS and FREEP for this Nation the God of our FATHERS......AMEN.
324 posted on 11/06/2003 8:00:45 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Robert Drobot
Thanks, RD for taking the time to share such warm thoughts. Sometimes we get chewed up and spit out...but we just keep going, and going, and going.
325 posted on 11/06/2003 8:16:18 AM PST by NautiNurse (Everyone is born right handed. Only the exceptionally gifted overcome it.)
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To: Robert Drobot; All
Amen Robert! Freepers ARE the greatest!!

God Save The Republic


326 posted on 11/06/2003 9:46:46 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Robert Drobot
RD, we've witnessed nothing short of a miracle. Thanks for putting Terri's fight into words.

IMO, this was the biggest freep of all time. I found something more important than politics to focus on but when Terri's out of the woods, I'll return there with a clearer perspective on the importance of grassroots activism and steadfastness.

The love of Terri's family for her kept me going.

327 posted on 11/06/2003 10:15:38 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
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To: Robert Drobot; JustPiper; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; ...
Freepers are a good lot of people (most of them), hard working, religious, they think of others before themselves, many are specialists in their respective fields and most love and respect God in His Image and will stop at nothing from letting His children die in the womb or starved in a hospice. The FR is the premier activism instrument on the internet and the Freepers themselves are the premier activists in real life. I'm glad Jim Robinson started this site, I've met some great people on the net and in real life and have learned so much.

Robert, how did you ever keep track of so many threads?

Just Piper, thanks for the ping, had it not been for you I would have missed this post. Those against life are real dupas aren't they?
329 posted on 11/06/2003 9:09:03 PM PST by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Coleus; Robert Drobot; JustPiper; floriduh voter; sweetliberty; cpforlife.org
bump!
330 posted on 11/06/2003 9:12:58 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
Also reposted on the current thread here.
331 posted on 11/06/2003 9:20:14 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Robert Drobot
BUMP
332 posted on 11/06/2003 9:34:16 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter; Robert Drobot; Republic; sweetliberty; Calpernia
Does anyone know what happened to the Schindlers being on Larry King? On Saturday, Wesley Smith said they would be on, probably Thursday night.
333 posted on 11/06/2003 9:35:27 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Robert Drobot
Oh, Robert, your post was so sweet....you're right, He did work through us in different ways. It was/is a fierce and amazing thing.
334 posted on 11/06/2003 9:57:21 PM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: nickcarraway
It was postponed until tomorrow night Nick
335 posted on 11/06/2003 10:47:21 PM PST by JustPiper (18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: Coleus
I will always ping you my poilsh friend -g- Yes, many dujo(sp?) dupas in the world!!!
336 posted on 11/06/2003 10:48:46 PM PST by JustPiper (18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: JustPiper
Okay. I just hadn't heard anything about it, so I was worried it faded away. Yes, Friday night is the worst night to be on Larry King, but at least it's something.
337 posted on 11/07/2003 1:26:59 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Coleus
"....Just Piper, thanks for the ping, had it not been for you I would have missed this post....."

I'm sorry you didn't receive my notice to you. I included all 147 individuals who have posted, and of course you were the first FReeper to post a thread about Terri. I put the ping list together alphabetically, putting you at number 22 on that list.

However, your comment raises my concern about the efficiency of the "To" function part of the posting process.

Did you finally get a notice about my post, or are you still waiting for it?

Complying the list of threads was no easy task. I'm glad you enjoyed reviewing it and may use it as a future reference source.

338 posted on 11/07/2003 3:54:14 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Coleus
Oppps.......Complying = Compiling. Sorry.
339 posted on 11/07/2003 3:58:05 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: sweetliberty
life
340 posted on 11/07/2003 4:02:35 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Robert Drobot
On second look, I did receive it, my inbox somtimes gets a bit crowded with the terri pings and sometimes I miss a few.
341 posted on 11/07/2003 8:58:47 AM PST by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Coleus
Thanks.
342 posted on 11/07/2003 12:02:32 PM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: FL_engineer
indulged in a guilty pleasure: an $80 visit to the hairdresser. When she told her husband, Michael, over the phone, he reacted angrily at the cost and the two traded bitter words, according to Jackie Rhodes, a friend of Schiavo’s.

I seem to remember a couple of freepers defending Michael -- that being stingy doesn't equal being a murderer...

343 posted on 11/18/2003 7:27:48 AM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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To: Orlando; FL_engineer
This might explain why they were Fighting in those days, why she wanted a divorce, she wanted out of this hellish marriage, and MS took her down (Military talk) that same night....

You know, it occurs to me, that why don't we fight hard to give her a divorce, since she expressed that desire verbally before she went into this 'mysterious vegetative state'? We seem to give the weight of law to Michael's hearsay assertion that she said she wouldn't want to be kept alive like this. Her friends all say she wanted to divorce him, so...?

344 posted on 11/18/2003 7:31:17 AM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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