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Hate from the heartland
NY Daily News ^ | October 28, 2003 | RICHARD WEIR

Posted on 10/28/2003 6:39:55 AM PST by presidio9

Hundreds of Long Islanders stood outside Mepham High School yesterday to blast a handful of out-of-town picketers who said teaching tolerance of gays led to the football hazing incident that has rocked the school. The picketers - eight family members from a church in Topeka, Kan., gathered on the sidewalk in front of the Bellmore school at 7 a.m. waving anti-gay signs, including one that read "God Hates Fags."

"When you teach children that it's okay to indulge in any kind of sex act that they like ... that it's okay to be gay, it is inevitable that they will end up being violent and doing things that they shouldn't," said Margie Phelps, who protested with a handful of relatives.

Mepham High School has been in the national spotlight since three members of its varsity football team were accused of sodomizing younger players with objects as part of a hazing ritual in August, while the team was at a preseason camp in Preston Park, Pa.

The eight protesters - four children among them - were drowned out by some 400 counterdemonstrators organized by a gay rights group and an equal number of angry local parents.

"Anyone that has a pulse in their body will realize that there is no link between sexual assault, which is about power, and somebody being gay," said David Kilmnick, executive director of Long Island Gay and Lesbian Youth.

A small army of Nassau cops avoided trouble by keeping the groups apart.

At one point, a Mepham resident yelled to the Christian group, "Go back to your trailer park." Others in the Mepham group carried posters saying, "God loves everybody."

"This is just a radical group that wants to send a message of hate," said Marge Congello, whose son, an eagle scout, is a senior at Mepham. "Bellmore is good community. We are being punished by a very bad incident."

Debbie Saladino, 37, shook her head in disbelief as she surveyed the family of protesters in front of her daughter's school.

"How they can turn hazing into homosexuality is beyond me," she said. Then she spotted a sign held by one of the Phelps sisters reading, "Thank God for Sept. 11th."

"That's a travesty. They have the audacity to come to New York and insult 9/11. A lot of people lost family members," Saladino said.


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1 posted on 10/28/2003 6:39:56 AM PST by presidio9
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"When you teach children that it's okay to indulge in any kind of sex act that they like ... that it's okay to be gay, it is inevitable that they will end up being violent and doing things that they shouldn't," said Margie Phelps, who protested with a handful of relatives.

<sarcasm>But teaching your children to blindly hate is much better...</sarcasm>

2 posted on 10/28/2003 6:42:40 AM PST by danneskjold
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To: presidio9
Anyone that has a pulse in their body will realize that there is no link between sexual assault, which is about power, and somebody being gay," said David Kilmnick, executive director of Long Island Gay and Lesbian Youth.

Gay and Lesbian Youth?

3 posted on 10/28/2003 6:45:06 AM PST by leadpencil1 (Kill your television)
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To: danneskjold
God hates?!!

This is a setup to discredit christians.

4 posted on 10/28/2003 6:45:09 AM PST by laotzu
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To: danneskjold; drstevej
God hates America????

I doubt it.

God hates Sin?????

Yep.
5 posted on 10/28/2003 6:45:47 AM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: presidio9
"How they can turn hazing into homosexuality is beyond me," Big difference mame between harmless hazing and molesting your male teamates in the rectum with assorted items.
6 posted on 10/28/2003 6:46:26 AM PST by alisasny (No one is listening until you make a mistake.)
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To: presidio9
"God hates America"? OK then why don't you get out of it posthaste, like Lot did Sodom? Ta-ta.....
7 posted on 10/28/2003 6:46:52 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: laotzu
I felt similar. Very few in numbers, all of same family. I think a little investigation of this group is in order.
8 posted on 10/28/2003 6:47:20 AM PST by alisasny (No one is listening until you make a mistake.)
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To: presidio9
(not you personally, I mean the protesting kooks)
9 posted on 10/28/2003 6:48:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: laotzu
possibly, but there are some that unwittingly give Christianity a bad name...
10 posted on 10/28/2003 6:49:03 AM PST by danneskjold
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To: presidio9
Fred Phelps really needs a day job.
11 posted on 10/28/2003 6:49:30 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (SSDD - Same S#it Different Democrat)
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To: presidio9
Then she spotted a sign held by one of the Phelps sisters reading, "Thank God for Sept. 11th."

That's the sickest part of the whole story to me.

12 posted on 10/28/2003 6:50:16 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: presidio9
It's funny. If you talk about the homosexuals who are involved in sexual assult, you will be told that there is bad in every group and discouraged from painting the entire group with a broad brush.

This is clearly a fringe group, but all Christians and all who want to tell the truth about the psychosis that is homosexuality will be painted with this broad brush. Even the title says "Hate from the Heartland" rather than "A Hate Group from the Heartland" or even "A Fringe Group Descends on Long Island."

G-d clearly does not hate fags and clearly G-d does not hate America.

But I'm sure G-d is as unhappy with all who paint those who do not support homosexuality as normative with a broad brush as He is with these people.

Shalom.

13 posted on 10/28/2003 6:52:05 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: danneskjold
These poor kids. Teaching right and wrong is fine. Teaching kids that "God hates fags!" isn't necessarily true. Jesus died for gays too. Yeah, it's wrong, but God is willing to forgive.
14 posted on 10/28/2003 6:52:10 AM PST by milan
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To: danneskjold
"there are some that unwittingly give Christianity a bad name..."

They took their children out of school, made up several signs, and drove half way across the country to a specific location.

Unwitting?

15 posted on 10/28/2003 6:53:22 AM PST by laotzu
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To: milan
Yeah, it's wrong, but God is willing to heal and forgive.

Will you allow a friendly edit?

Shalom.

16 posted on 10/28/2003 6:53:52 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: laotzu
"God hates?!!
This is a setup to discredit christians."

Nope, sorry. The Phelps clan has been doing this for years in Topeka. Their patriarch, Fred Phelps, is a "minister" of his own church. His congregation consists mostly of his own family. It's more like a cult, I think. This is their cottage industry, but what they get out of it I don't know.
17 posted on 10/28/2003 6:54:07 AM PST by poindexter
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To: laotzu
Yes, because they don't think they are giving Christianity a bad name...

Maybe I should have said "unintentionally"...

18 posted on 10/28/2003 6:55:07 AM PST by danneskjold
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To: presidio9
...there is no link between sexual assault, which is about power, and somebody being gay,"...

This statement is a lie when the following is considered:

Most of the nation has not heard about two homosexual men who face the death penalty in Arkansas, charged with raping and torturing a 13-year-old boy to death last month.

The brutal crime against Prairie Grove, Ark., seventh-grader Jesse Dirkhising -- who was raped repeatedly and suffocated with his own underwear in the pre-dawn hours of Sept. 26 -- was reported by news organizations in Arkansas and also covered by newspapers in Oklahoma and Tennessee. But the boy's death did not receive national media attention. Tim Graham, director of media analysis for the Media Research Center, said he is not surprised .

Joshua Macave Brown, 22, and Davis Don Carpenter, 38, described as homosexual "lovers" in a police affidavit, have both been charged with capital murder and six counts of rape and are being held without bond in connection with Jesse's death.

According to the affidavit, Mr. Brown told police that on the morning of Sept. 26, he sneaked up on the boy, tied his hands behind his back, placed his pair of undershorts in the teen's mouth and secured the briefs with a bandana and duct tape. He said he blindfolded the youth, bound him to a bed and repeatedly sodomized him.

Mr. Brown said he went to the kitchen to get a sandwich and that when he returned to the bedroom, Jesse was not breathing. He alerted his roommate, who called 911. Asked about Mr. Carpenter's role during the crime, Mr. Brown said Mr. Carpenter stood at the bedroom door and masturbated as he watched

19 posted on 10/28/2003 6:56:38 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: presidio9
The Phelpses have a history of LEFTISM, which the press keeps very quiet about. Their repellent picket signs are designed to make the Right look like bigots.
20 posted on 10/28/2003 6:57:31 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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