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Former Chief Navy Counsel Alleges Cover-Up by LBJ of 1967 Israeli Attack on U.S. Ship
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Posted on 10/22/2003 5:25:49 PM PDT by TheOtherOne

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To: rmlew
As for a flag, the Egyptian navy had flown a false flag when they sank the Elath. Israeli pilots were told that there would be no American ships in the area.

BTTT

61 posted on 10/22/2003 7:20:09 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
ping
62 posted on 10/22/2003 7:20:13 PM PDT by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: John Beresford Tipton
Ah, new on this planet?

Sorry I forgot to bracket that with sarcasm /sarcasm

63 posted on 10/22/2003 7:20:18 PM PDT by zchip
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To: Dr Zilman
There is simply no way Israel would have allowed any ship to get that close during a war without positively identifying if. It didn't just magically appear on the scene.

Fog of war.

64 posted on 10/22/2003 7:21:30 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: TheOtherOne
Admiral Moorer vindicated once again.
66 posted on 10/22/2003 7:21:46 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Dr Zilman
Did we bomb a Canadian convoy in Iraq or Afghanistan? Mistakes happen.
67 posted on 10/22/2003 7:22:06 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: zchip
Admiral Moorer wrote and published numerous articles on the truth of the Liberty incident at the time of the independent panel; this is not a late statement by him but by Ward Boston.
68 posted on 10/22/2003 7:24:08 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Dr Zilman
The Israelis were kind of busy at the time, dealing with larger air forces, navies, and armies of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Tunisia, Libya, and Saudi Arabia.

Seriously, sh_t happens in war. Take a look at British actions when they were trying to sink the Bismark. British torpedo planes attacked a British cruiser that was in radio contact with them! (let's not miss the obvious, that a light cruiser looks nothing like a battleship and cruiser taskforce. Wrong size, wrong number of ships) Did the British intentionally attack their own cruiser? Or was their a mistake in war?
69 posted on 10/22/2003 7:24:17 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: WackyKat
A question that is still resoundingly relevant today."

And the answer is?

71 posted on 10/22/2003 7:24:42 PM PDT by truthandjustice1
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To: All
Perception vs. Reality
72 posted on 10/22/2003 7:25:33 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Dr Zilman
Because it was flying an American flag.

Ever try to identify a flag 1,000 feet away while zipping past it at eight miles per minute?

74 posted on 10/22/2003 7:27:40 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: All
TIMELINE OF EVENTS http://www.thelibertyincident.com/docs/timeline.pdf
76 posted on 10/22/2003 7:31:41 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Dr Zilman
Gee, I didn't know torpedo boats could go that fast.

By the time the torpedo boats got there, the ship was on fire from the napalm--which was dropped by the aircraft that were zipping past at eight miles per minute, trying to ID the target (and, as airmen frequently do, failing miserably).

Fires produce smoke. Smoke rises. It can rise up and obscure things like flags. Pure physics is so amazing.

77 posted on 10/22/2003 7:32:23 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Dr Zilman
So the torpedo boats and the torpedo that hit the Liberty were imaginary??

It was a mistake. Israelis offered assistance after that (http://www.thelibertyincident.com/docs/timeline.pdf) for a number of times, and the Liberty declined.

78 posted on 10/22/2003 7:32:32 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Dr Zilman
Then why did they feel it necessary to divert planes and boats from all those opponents and mount an intensive attack on a mere horse carrier?

IDF positions on the coast there were being hammered. Israelis thought it was coming from a Egyptian naval position.

79 posted on 10/22/2003 7:33:38 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Samwise; snippy_about_it; PhilDragoo
Thanks for the Ping Samwise.

Freeper Foxhole - been there, done that. LOL!

The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Attack on the USS LIBERTY - Part I (6/8/1967) - Sep. 8th, 2003

The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Attack on the USS LIBERTY - Part II (6/8/1967) - Sep. 9th, 2003

80 posted on 10/22/2003 7:35:00 PM PDT by SAMWolf (The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul)
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