Kennedy to Assail Bush Over Iraq War

Boston Globe ^ | 10/16/2003 | Anne E. Kornblut

[Jim Noble]

WASHINGTON -- Ratcheting up his criticism of the war in Iraq, Senator Edward M. Kennedy accuses the Bush administration of telling "lie after lie after lie" to defend its policy in a fiery speech prepared for delivery today on the Senate floor.

[Jim Noble]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the George HW Bush Presidential Foundation Award Winner-Senator Edward Kennedy!

[Texas_Jarhead]

insane aint it

[ambrose]

Nice of Teddy to time the speech just as Bush will be going to SE Asia to lobby our allies for more assistance. Teddy seems intent on sabotaging this mission.

[Fenris6]

When will reporters demand specifics and details of all these allegations? If I had a media platform and denounced Dean as a child-molestor, how long would I last without submitting proof? Or even a ratioanl explanation of the charges?

[chicagolady]

Lie after lie after Lie,

Well you have to admit...Ted Kennedy is an expert on the subject!

[goldstategop]

Ted has repaid President Bush's kindness by pouring more gasoline on the flames of a relationship that's gone south. If you try to make nice-nice with liberals, expect to get burned. The President hasn't gotten a lot of mileage out of his so-called New Tone. And the Swimmer has made it very clear where he stands.

[LarryM]

This is a predictable consequence of Bush's appeasement of Kennedy. Bush made nice to Ted and look what he got. When will he understand that appeasement never works?

[Stultis]

Wrath of the Irrelevant!

[goldstategop]

Yep. And I'm still waiting for the President to fight back.

[2timothy3.16]

Isn't it amazing? While teddy the drunk "Ratcheting up his criticism of the war in Iraq, Senator Edward M. Kennedy accuses the Bush administration of telling "lie after lie after lie" to defend its policy in a fiery speech prepared for delivery today on the Senate floor."

Bush the first gives the drunk an award and money for booze.

One of the Maine Freepers in K-Port needs to drop by Walkers point and throw a little cold water in the face of the Presidents dad.

[samtheman]

The American Left has made it clear what side it's on in the war on terror.

The enemy of their enemy is their friend.

And the way they see it, George Bush is their enemy.

Which makes the terrorists their friends.

The American Left are traitors against America.

[2timothy3.16]

If I had a media platform and denounced Dean as a child-molestor, how long would I last without submitting proof? Or even a ratioanl explanation of the charges?

Dean did his OBGYN training at a planned parenthood abortion mill, that is all the proof any rational human being needs to know that Dean is a baby killer.

[leprechaun9]

The question that I want answered is "Which of the Kennedy offsprings was really in the car with Mary Jo?" The Great Whale from Taxachusetts was probably in a saloon with Sen Dudd from CT!

[Carthago delenda est]

Q. Why is Ted Kennedy a bad golfer?

A. He just can't drive over water.

[billorites]

Teddy's a mean drunk.

[JesseHousman]

...Edward M. Kennedy accuses the Bush administration of telling "lie after lie after lie"...

His legion of staffers write every word this bloated fool utters. (Anyone remember the excellent interview conducted by Roger Mudd?)

I wonder who dresses this unmitigated liar each morning and how much the dresser is paid? It couldn't be enough. Whoever it is must be tempted often to tie that windsor knot just a bit too tight.

A liberal fool once told me that the country needed people like Teddy in the senate for balance. Teddy tips the scales on the wrong side and it's unfortunate that other fools like Hatch stand with him.

[Russ]

The president maintains a 56% approval rating and a healthy lead in all the reelection polls despite not "fighting back". The liberals and the media have thrown just about everything they have at him with little effect. I think his present strategy is the right one. Let them act like spoiled brats and Bush act presidential.

[PROUDAMREP]

President Bush tried to bring to new tone to DC, but Kennedy and his ilk are just like the UN. They and the liberals of the WORLD do not want Bush to succeed. The would like another swinger like the last one we put in that office.

I just pray the American people will not be taken in by all these unsubstantiated claims, but I'm afraid we've become a nation of people who just listen to the spin.

[anoldafvet]

We tried appeasement and ignoring the terrorists and look what it got us. Bush has adopted the doctrine of "Pre-emption" and we are winning the first war on terror. Unfortunately, we are still following the doctrine of appeasement in our second war on terror, with our domestic terrorists (Democrats). If pre-emption worked once, why won't it work again?

[Terry Mross]

Clinton and the like had a strategy: Repeat the lies often along with the media's help and the lies will become truth. Now fatso ted accuses Bush of doing the same thing.

The only true statement fatso ted uttered was "We were told Irag would pay for the war". I don't understand why they're not paying for it. The rest were bold face lies. And the huge lie was about nuclear weapons. I never remember Bush saying Iraq had nuclear weapons. On top of that Bush can't say "nuclear", fatso. Can you say "Man the life boats! Mary jo's goind down!"

[Terry Mross]

Did you see where clinton is now saying he warned Bush about Bin Laden and one of his greatest disappointments is Bush would take his advice? I think even the main stream media is going to ignore this latest outright lie.

[sirchtruth]

The president maintains a 56% approval rating and a healthy lead in all the reelection polls despite not "fighting back".

This is a good point. I was thinking right before reading your post WHY doesn't Bush fight back and you have provided the answer. Many American people who are not well informed or do not care just see snipets of news...they are sick and tired of hearing petty partisan bickering. Bush let's Kennedy rant like the intoxicated zealot he is and Bush shows he is above such childish squabbling.

The strategy does work for him.

[isthisnickcool]

[section9]

This is actually good for us.

Who cares about some jack-sh#t public service award that George the Elder decided to pass out as a peace offering. That matters little. GHWB was always clueless as to the mendacity of his opponents. George W, on the other hand, knows their game. What is more important is that Kennedy is driving the Democrats further to the Howard Dean left. That is all to the good.

As the economy improves and the situation in Iraq improves with it, the liberal Democrats will find themselves further marginalized.

Liberal Democrats are peddling many mendacities these days. It is good that Karl Rove is taking notes.

When the campaign begins, the Democrats will live to regret their antiwar stance. They like to think that things look good for them now, but in six months, it won't. Things turn in politics. Appeasement is never sound policy in the long run, and the truth, as it always does, will out.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[2timothy3.16]

Good points Chris, thanks.

[nathanbedford]

He continues: "All the administration's rationalizations as we prepared to go to war now stand revealed as double-talk. The American people were told Saddam Hussein was building nuclear weapons. He was not. We were told he had stockpiles of other weapons of mass destruction. He did not. We were told he was involved in 9/11. He was not. We were told Iraq was attracting terrorists from Al Qaeda. It was not. We were told our soldiers would be viewed as liberators. They are not. We were told Iraq could pay for its own reconstruction. It cannot. We were told the war would make America safer. It has not."

Before the parsing of this polemic by a host of indignant posters proves these allegations unfounded (for example, Bush never said "mission Accomplished" on the carrier, a banner behind him erected by the crew to proclaim their own sucessful cruise, did bear these words, making Kennedy's distortion here similiar to the manufactured and distorted allegations that Bush stated that Irak's threat was "imminent"), let's take a moment to consider why Kennedy has led this charge.

Essentially, Kennedy is doing this because he can. There is no downside for him. He is invulnerable in Mass. He can push his party to the left, which is his bent. He can easilly take the blowback from us without materially emphasizing the idea that his party simply cannot be trusted with national security because Kennedy is sui generis. So the electorate will consider these allegations without blaming the gang of presidential candidates.

The idea is attack bush at his strenth but without risking any electoral assets doing so.

[Broadside Joe]

Oh yes lie after lie after lie!

From another thread by freeper BOBTHENAILER.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985627/posts?page=1,50

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

[proud American in Canada]

"they completely dissed him."

Oh please... Who's "dissing" whom around here? KEnnedy makes me sick.

[proud American in Canada]

Thank you! I was about to scroll back into my "new posts to you" to find where I bumped that.

I hope some Republican brings this up this quote--and all the others on that list.

[abclily]

We need a Joseph Kennedy Award for Appeasers Who Encourage the Enemy. Teddy could be the first recipient.

[Broadside Joe]

In good time :) I'm sure of it, we have a whole year to go.

Remember that this kind of thing in august of 2002? When they were crying that Bush should go to the UN? Well September came, they went to the UN and won Res 1441 :)

I think that they are keeping the powder dry :)

[uncbob]

Bush brought this on himself by making NICE NICE with Teddy and giving him a hell of a lot of what he wanted in the senate bills

[PogySailor]

I other news, the Sun rose in the east this morning. I will go out on a limb a predict that it will set in the west this evening.

Kennedy can get away with this because there is no cost to him. He could be re-elected even if had sex with a goat live on stage.

[Puppage]

Kennedy to Assail Bush Over Pitcher of Scotch

[Clara Lou]

Yes, it gets worse and worse. The local newspaper here interviewed citizens about having Ted receive this award and coming to the neighborhood. Amazement and disappointment were the major reactions. I hope everything Teddy has ever done (none of it's good) comes back to haunt him.

[evad]

Well you have to admit...Ted Kennedy is an expert on the subject!

Indeed! As the master of the "trumped up story", the swimmer can speak with supreme authority on the subject.

[tbpiper]

mindless, needless, senseless, and reckless... Kennedy
(a little creative editing)

[tbpiper]

I don't think this has been an attempt at appeasment.

From Proverbs 25:

21 If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat;
if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.
22 In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head,
and the LORD will reward you.

Teddy is always hungry for praise. When either Bush gives it to him, he laps it up like a starved dog. This has to cause some serious inner conflict. Then to, he has to come out with these obviously insane rants so the other democrats won't think he's defecting. I don't think he's being appeased so much as he is being manipulated. All in all, it's pretty entertaining.

[section9]

Well put, sir.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[tractorman]

Behold, the captain of the USS Oldsmobile is about to screech.

[1Old Pro]

Will someone ask Kennedy about the manslaughter of Mary Jo?

[linn37]

lol

[upcountryhorseman]

I don't understand why that man isn't in jail, rather
than speaking on the Senate floor.

[JIM O]

It sucks to be me. Ted and John are my Senators. Oh, and Barney is my congressman.

[andy58-in-nh]

It was kind of, though hardly unusual for the Boston Globe to provide a front-page forum for the latest drunken droolings from the lips of Jabba The Democrat. One has to wonder, though: why the need for a pre-announcement for a routine Senate floor speech? These sorts of incoherant rants are a staple of Washington speechifying, garnering a day's worth of notice (if that) before the camera's attention turns to something more worthy, such as the newest global warming scare, or Madonna's latest embarrassment. Any thoughts on what Teddy the K is up to (other than 315 lbs)?

[hchutch]

Furthermore, the fat old drunk's broadsides in spite of Bush's efforts to reach out (and the award) will only show the Left has no class. That will also hurt them next year.

It's that old line from Henry V: "When lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentler gamester is the surest winner."

The Dems are headed for the biggest turkey shoot since the one off the Marianas.

[elfman2]

"I think his present strategy is the right one. Let them act like spoiled brats and Bush act presidential."

I agree. Only anti-Bush voters will see Kennedy as reasonable here. The undecided middle don’t want that kind of slime in the Whitehouse. At 56% without “fighting back”, Bush can pick the battle and timing.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

At the same time, Kennedy's criticism -- coming after a July 15 speech at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, in which the senator said "ideological pride" prevented the administration from seeking international help -- seemed to energize Democratic critics of the administration's Iraq policy.

Since name calling and personal attacks are the one skill Democrats possess.

[finnman69]

Meanwhile kennedy voted YES on this....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1002432/posts

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 108th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Amendment (Graham (SC) Amdt. No. 1806 As Modified ) Vote Number: 384 Vote Date: October 15, 2003, 06:03 PM Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 1806 to S. 1689 (Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq and Afghanistan Security and Reconstruction Act, 2004 )


Statement of Purpose: To express the sense of Congress that the removal of the Government of Saddam Hussein has enhanced the security of Israel and other United States allies.


Vote Counts: YEAs 95 NAYs 2 Not Voting 3 Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

Yea Kennedy (D-MA)

[cwb]

You are right on with this analysis. But you know what pisses me off: Whenever ANY Republican makes outrageous comments, the first thing the media does is go around to all the leading Republicans and ask what their opinion was of the rant. They did it with Lott, they do it with Delay, Burton, etc. And the media specifically does this so they can attach the Republican Party to the remarks of one individuals comments. The media never does this with the Democrats. Instead of asking the 9 dwarfs of what they think of Kennedy's diatribe, they pretend it didn't happen.