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ZOT! All the President's votes?
The Independent UK ^ | 14 October 2003 | Andrew Gumbel

Posted on 10/15/2003 12:48:06 AM PDT by althecat

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To: dansangel
Everyone knows it!There is no secret.Every election was over in the primary..Democratic when I grew up.He won by 87 votes.
61 posted on 10/15/2003 4:59:29 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: JohnHuang2
"A homerun, my friend. Well said -- bravo!"

"glock rocks, thanks for the heads-up to Vigilantcitizen's fine post :-)"

Coming from you JohnHuang2, one of my favorite and most astute posters here at FR, your congratulations mean alot to me.:)

62 posted on 10/15/2003 5:00:30 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (For all that holy coach Reeves.........RUN THE DAMN BALL)
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To: MEG33
Yes...And how about all of the military votes that got trashed in 2000....or the *dead* people who voted dim. Sheesh, c'mon. The left-leaning and very biased media hushed *that* up pretty quick.

OK, blood pressure up to stroke level already this morning. At least the trolls let me know I'm still alive and kicking! LOL!!
63 posted on 10/15/2003 5:01:55 AM PDT by dansangel (*Visualize No Democrats*)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Why, thank you, friend :-)
64 posted on 10/15/2003 5:02:19 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: ambrose
I personally favor old fashioned paper ballots

Me too, and with all parties doing the counting by hand. But, I guess such view is obsolete in the the computerized brave new world. You should trust your government.

65 posted on 10/15/2003 5:02:27 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Well done,FRiend!
66 posted on 10/15/2003 5:02:47 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: AntiJen
"GREAT post VC! Here's a Georgia peach bump."

Thank you, ma'am. And here's a "We're really nice people, but don't mess with us Georgians cuz we'll kick your a$$." bump back at ya.

67 posted on 10/15/2003 5:03:12 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (For all that holy coach Reeves.........RUN THE DAMN BALL)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Bump for that, though I doubt Mr. Al is even bothering to read the replies.

The real issue with elections in the U.S. is massive voter fraud in urban areas. PA arguably went Dem in the last Presidential election due to 100%+ voter turnout in Philly. 100%+? Hmmmmmm. St. Louis, too.

Regarding Max, in the wake of 9/11, GA voters took a hard look at his record, and came to the realization that he was a lot closer to Teddy Kennedy than he was to Zell Miller. Without 9/11, the electorate would have sleepwalked him right through re-election.
68 posted on 10/15/2003 5:03:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: MEG33
"Well done,FRiend!"

Thank you. Here's a FR rocks! bump back at ya.

69 posted on 10/15/2003 5:04:24 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (For all that holy coach Reeves.........RUN THE DAMN BALL)
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To: FreedomPoster
"Bump for that, though I doubt Mr. Al is even bothering to read the replies."

Oh, I know. But just in case, I sent it to the Guardian too.

70 posted on 10/15/2003 5:05:43 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (For all that holy coach Reeves.........RUN THE DAMN BALL)
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To: dansangel
Hey - I resemble that remark!

Proud Member - Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
71 posted on 10/15/2003 5:05:59 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Vigilantcitizen
EGGGGS-selent, Smithers. < /Burns voice>
72 posted on 10/15/2003 5:06:49 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: althecat
I don't know much about Georgia. However, I don't think you can compare primary raw numbers with general election real numbers.

Often, when one party is traditionally much stronger in a local area than the other, people will vote in the primary of the stronger party so they can make a choice. You often see it in the rural South where people will vote in the Dem primary to influence local races, but vote GOP in the general for the national races.

In my county -- a GOP stronghold -- I know a number of Dems who vote in the GOP primary because of the local races.

Plus, 2002 in Georgia was unique because the GOP nominated Senate and Governor candidates who were not from their traditional heartland of the Atlanta suburbs. It only makes sense that Chambliss and Perdue would do better in their home region that an Atlanta politician.

73 posted on 10/15/2003 5:11:33 AM PDT by writmeister
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To: FreedomPoster
Proud Member - Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

Me, too! I even have a card in my wallet saying so. LOL!

((((FP))))

74 posted on 10/15/2003 5:11:45 AM PDT by dansangel (*Visualize No Democrats*)
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To: FreedomPoster; dansangel; AntiJen; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
I left one of the major factors in the republican takeover here in Georgia, and that's FRee Republic, the place we all met and planned our nefarious VRWC activities.

Sincere thanks and gratitude to Jim and John.

75 posted on 10/15/2003 5:12:39 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (For all that holy coach Reeves.........RUN THE DAMN BALL)
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To: FreedomPoster
"EGGGGS-selent, Smithers. < /Burns voice>"

Bwahahaha!!!!

76 posted on 10/15/2003 5:13:39 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (For all that holy coach Reeves.........RUN THE DAMN BALL)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
I left one of the major factors in the republican takeover here in Georgia, and that's FRee Republic, the place we all met and planned our nefarious VRWC activities.
Sincere thanks and gratitude to Jim and John.

Amen!

77 posted on 10/15/2003 5:14:12 AM PDT by dansangel (*Visualize No Democrats*)
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To: dansangel
I'm too sexy to vote dim, I'm too sexy to vote dim, tooooo sexy yeah....

Right said Fred voice off/.

78 posted on 10/15/2003 5:18:45 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (For all that holy coach Reeves.........RUN THE DAMN BALL)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
ROFL!!! See??? Where else can you go to get the latest in voter fraud news *and* be entertained at the same time?? LOL!!
79 posted on 10/15/2003 5:22:03 AM PDT by dansangel (*Visualize No Democrats*)
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To: althecat
Its a long article, so I admit that I didn't read the whole thing.

But, correct me if I'm wrong here, the article basically places more faith in opinion polls than in the voting machines.

Its pretty well known around here that polls consistantly lean about 3-4% more towards the democrats than actual voting results. There have been several articles on this website about it as well as discussions of how polling is conducted.

Second, the article references Minnesota. The turnaround in Minnesota was largely due to the democrats discusting "Funerally" for the late Senator Wellstone.

You are incorrect in stating that this is gaining traction - at least in regards to the United States.
80 posted on 10/15/2003 5:32:02 AM PDT by kidd
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