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Bill Clinton's pollster doesn't think much of the race Hillary Clinton ran
CNN Politics ^ | September 23, 2017 | Chris Cillizza, Editor-at-large

Posted on 09/24/2017 7:10:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone seems to have a strong opinion about why Hillary Clinton lost.

Clinton herself -- as explained in her new memoir "What Happened" -- puts blame on her campaign, the news media, former FBI director James Comey and WikiLeaks. Donald Trump tweeted this morning that "Crooked Hillary" was simply a "bad candidate."

And now Stan Greenberg, the man who served as the lead pollster for Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign (and Al Gore's 2000 campaign) has written a long essay titled "How She Lost" that slams Clinton (and her campaign) for a series of messaging, tactical and broader strategic errors.

Greenberg concludes:

"For me, the most glaring examples include the Clinton campaign's over-dependence on technical analytics; its failure to run campaigns to win the battleground states; the decision to focus on the rainbow base and identity politics at the expense of the working class; and the failure to address the candidate's growing 'trust problem,' to learn from events and reposition."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2016; democrats; hillary; trump
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1 posted on 09/24/2017 7:10:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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More:
>>In the wake of Clinton’s loss, the lesson most aspiring Democrats appear to have learned is that the way to win is to fully embrace the race and gender politics of the party’s activist base — and to move as far to the left as possible. In short: The prevailing wisdom among 2020 Democratic aspirants is that Clinton’s loss was the result of insufficient embrace of identity politics.

But Greenberg’s argument is the exact opposite. That in deciding to air a “breakthrough ad in Nevada in which she hugged a Dreamer” rather than an ad with “an autoworker’s daughter,” Clinton was sending a message to white working-class voters that she didn’t care about them.


2 posted on 09/24/2017 7:15:38 PM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bill Clinton's pollster doesn't think much of the race Hillary Clinton ran

But, ... but, it was her turn!

3 posted on 09/24/2017 7:18:31 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: Navy Patriot

Bill wanted nothing to do with a Hilary win selfesh prick


4 posted on 09/24/2017 7:29:50 PM PDT by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The real reason she lost was enough people voted against her by voting for Trump whether they liked him or not; they disliked her more. And the electoral college held against the anarchists for now.
5 posted on 09/24/2017 7:31:50 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary wanted to use the slogan “It’s my turn,dammit!”


6 posted on 09/24/2017 7:34:08 PM PDT by Trumpnado2016 (Time to repeal and replace the entire GOP Congressional leadership team.)
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To: Trumpnado2016
She also considered the slogan, "Where Huma at, I'm horny,?"

But it wouldn't fit on the t-shirt.

7 posted on 09/24/2017 7:36:53 PM PDT by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You gone already.

She wanted to come on five million times, just thinking the lie that America is not ready president however, she f***** up and did not win the electoral college.

And I don’t want to hear any more b******* about her book being a Tome on the details of how an election takes place and how wonderful she is.

The title of the book is literally “WTF Happened”.

Get over it


8 posted on 09/24/2017 7:41:23 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So this pollster feller is criticizing Hillary. He must be one of them secret Russian agents I’ve been reading about.


9 posted on 09/24/2017 7:41:35 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Ran" is the wrong word to describe her campaign...


10 posted on 09/24/2017 7:51:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: al baby

Bill wanted nothing to do with a Hilary win selfesh prick


I have heard that Bill really didn’t want Hillary to be elected.

Reasons being:

1. He would have been compelled to move in the White House with her, and pretend they are one big happy family. The fact is, they have largely led separate lives for years.

2. He would have been back in the fishbowl of the White House. His extra curricular activities, with women, and the Clinton foundation, would have been under much more scrutiny if he were the First Husband.

3. There would have been great conflict with Hillary, as Bill would feel like he’s president again, and want input into policy, go out and speak for the administration ,etc. and sometimes say and do things which Hillary would not want him to do.


11 posted on 09/24/2017 7:52:28 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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If these liberal elite campaign manager/political types are so dam smart, then why couldn’t they run a campaign to get Hillary elected???

If they are so dam smart, how come they couldn’t pull it off, against an allegedly weak opponent in Trump???


12 posted on 09/24/2017 7:53:58 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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13 posted on 09/24/2017 8:00:37 PM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

That and he would just be an asterik in history ego to big for that


14 posted on 09/24/2017 8:47:26 PM PDT by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: Vendome

Stupid voice recognition....


15 posted on 09/24/2017 8:49:23 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Aliska

I was not a fan of Trunp voted for him to keep her out he turned out to be way more conservative and America first than i could have hoped


16 posted on 09/24/2017 8:49:29 PM PDT by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: Navy Patriot

And don’t forget, she has a vagina.


17 posted on 09/25/2017 2:46:39 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“His extra curricular activities, with women, and the Clinton foundation, would have been under much more scrutiny if he were the First Husband.”

It’s hard to make a medical judgment from the few photos I’ve seen, but I’d speculate that Bill has one foot inside Death’s door. I suspect he doesn’t do much of anything these days.

Likewise, the startling thing about seeing Hillary on stage is that she comes off as fairly healthy. My guess is that her medication is managed on an hourly basis.

These are two people who should simply step off the stage and let other players strut their hour. Instead, Hillary, at least, is hogging the spotlight and removing all the oxygen that some other player would need. (I have similar thoughts about McCain. It’s amazing to see him seemingly normal. One wonders how much effort that takes.)


18 posted on 09/25/2017 3:48:47 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Joe Boucher
And don’t forget, she has a vagina.

That's a nasty rumor!

19 posted on 09/25/2017 4:05:36 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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LOL!


20 posted on 09/25/2017 4:09:29 AM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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