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Oh boy: Two private polls of Indiana show Trump and Cruz tied, one shows Trump ahead
Hot Air ^ | April 21, 2016 | Allahpundit

Posted on 04/22/2016 2:58:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

If you don’t know by now why Indiana is important, you must have missed this post and a good 8,000 similar explainers elsewhere in political media. Long story short, Indiana’s one of the few states left on the map where either Cruz or Trump might plausibly do well. With 57 delegates at stake, a win or loss for Trump there could be the difference between him reaching 1,237 delegates on the first ballot and falling a few dozen short. It’s essentially a must-win for Cruz to force a contested convention.

But he’s not winning, at least according to three private polls obtained by Politico. The reason we’re stuck with private polls of the state instead of the usual fare is partly because Indiana bans automated polling, which locks out a bunch of smaller pollsters, and partly because the major pollsters are consumed right now with the mid-Atlantic states that vote next week. Which is foolish of them: The mid-Atlantic states will all go heavily Trump, with the only mystery as to his margins. It’s Indiana that has the potential to decide whether he’s the nominee. And if you believe the private polls, he’s in play:

One survey, completed on April 12, had Ted Cruz and Donald Trump in a statistical tie: 32 percent to 32 percent, with John Kasich, governor of neighboring Ohio, a distant third, with 14 percent.

A second survey also had Trump and Cruz tied, but that was a change from three weeks earlier, when Cruz had led outside the margin of error.

A third survey, from last week, had Trump ahead of Cruz, outside the margin of error…

The Club for Growth Action Fund announced a $1.5 million ad buy in the state on Thursday. “There is now no state more important than Indiana for electing Cruz and keeping Trump from reaching 1,237,” said Club president David McIntosh.

John McCormack makes a fair point which Cruzers will appreciate. Add up the totals in the first poll cited above and you’re left with 22 percent undecided. Trump tends not to do well with late deciders in closely contested states, probably for the simple reason that he’s larger than life and therefore everyone’s already made up their minds about him. If you had to guess which way that 22 percent will break, you’d guess mainly for Cruz, with a fair chance that some of Kasich’s 14 percent will desert him as well to vote strategically for Cruz in order to ensure a convention. It may also be that the reason Cruz led in Indiana three weeks ago but has slipped into a tie now is because he was campaigning hard in nearby Wisconsin at the time and receiving lots of good press. In other words, he may have been enjoying a small bounce which was destined to fade. But maybe not — maybe Cruz has slipped because Trump’s landslide in New York has convinced Hoosiers, rightly or not, that Cruz is a lost cause. And if that’s true, the rules about Trump and late deciders may no longer apply. Maybe, with all the hype about Indiana as a possible waterloo for Cruz and all the annoying yet effective whining lately from Trump about a “rigged system,” undecideds will seize the opportunity to end the race on May 3rd (for all intents and purposes) and break for Trump instead.

Whatever the truth is, here’s something worth noting: When pollsters started targeting Wisconsin in late March, two weeks before the primary, Cruz was already leading in most surveys. Not by a lot, but he was ahead. If the private polls are right, he’s lost the one lead he already had in Indiana and is outside the margin of error in trailing in the other. That’s not what a Cruz fan wants to see, although the fact that he went on to a comfortable 13-point win in Wisconsin after the early polls showed a tight race is some cause for optimism. He may well win. But will he win across the state, in various districts, which is what he’ll need to do to pile up delegates? If not, if he and Trump end up splitting Indiana fairly evenly by district, Trump could still come away with a decent haul to help him get across the 1,237 line. For Cruz, there’s no margin for error anymore.

Go read this Philip Klein post from yesterday making a shrewd point about the dearth of public polling in Indiana. If these private polls are wrong and Cruz (or Trump) is actually comfortably ahead, wouldn’t knowing that have a profound effect on the media narrative right now? The media’s take on the race is that, having just crushed Cruz in New York and preparing to crush him again next week in the mid-Atlantic, Trump may be in the process of putting him away. The anti-Trump resistance is crumbling. Trump’s got the big Mo! But does he, or is he just winning the states he was expected to win, with Indiana poised to deliver him a heavy blow on May 3rd? If Hoosiers are sticking with Cruz then Trump really has no momentum at all and he’s still staring down the likelihood of finishing short of a majority after California. If, on the other hand, Hoosiers are breaking for Trump, then we’ve reached endgame in the primaries, which is as newsworthy as newsworthy gets. It’d be nice to know either way.

Exit question: What does Trump mean here by “when this is all over”? He means after his two terms as president, right?

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Trump told Bill Murray at the Adele concert that they should golfing “when this is all over” http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a44149/bill-murray-granger-interview/ …

2:08 PM - 21 Apr 2016


TOPICS: Indiana; New York; Campaign News; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: cruz; indiana; lyinted; presidentdonaldtrump; tedcruz; trump
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1 posted on 04/22/2016 2:58:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; mkjessup

Allahpundit’s ever-more-frequent tears of dismay this season are as the sweetest ambrosia to me. I could batten eternally upon such nectar as this. ;)


2 posted on 04/22/2016 3:01:01 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The bathroom deal is a big fat nothing burger." -- Jim Robinson, 04/22/16)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

#OhBoy


3 posted on 04/22/2016 3:03:08 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While over here public polls and not a secret Cruz is...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3423696/posts


4 posted on 04/22/2016 3:03:27 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this part of the Cruz Surge or a aftershock from his Cratering?


5 posted on 04/22/2016 3:04:36 PM PDT by PJBankard (Political Correctness has killed America. It is time America is resurrected.)
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To: Red Steel

California is congressional district by congressional district.


6 posted on 04/22/2016 3:07:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz will be crushed in 5 out of 5 of the races next Tuesday, probably finishing last in at least 3 of them. Once that occurs, Trump will become like a boulder rolling down hill, picking up speed, and crushing everyone in his path.


7 posted on 04/22/2016 3:08:20 PM PDT by euram
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

hey, this story is from 2008!


8 posted on 04/22/2016 3:08:21 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And latest polling from CA has Trump leading in most, if not all, Congressional Districts. He may not even need Indiana.


9 posted on 04/22/2016 3:12:00 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: ripnbang

Guess I missed those district-b-district polls. Have a link?


10 posted on 04/22/2016 3:13:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Club for Growth Action Fund announced a $1.5 million ad buy in the state on Thursday
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The Club for Cheap Labor is not trying to nominate Ted, they are trying to stop Trump, using Ted.
And Ted is OK with that.


11 posted on 04/22/2016 3:14:07 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ask and you shall receive...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3423622/posts


12 posted on 04/22/2016 3:14:14 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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13 posted on 04/22/2016 3:16:01 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting. Clearly two of them are wrong and only one is right. /sarcasm.


14 posted on 04/22/2016 3:17:18 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And these too...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/gop_pres_primary/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3423354/posts


15 posted on 04/22/2016 3:19:47 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: PJBankard

Must be the Cruz ‘dead cat bounce’


16 posted on 04/22/2016 3:20:20 PM PDT by bigtoona (The media, GOPe, dems, commie Pope, hate Trump. He is the destroyer we've been waiting for!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh boy. Indianans cannot tell the difference between a Canadian and a real American. Oh boy.


17 posted on 04/22/2016 3:25:09 PM PDT by upsdriver (I support Sarah Palin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nobody likes spoilers and liars.

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18 posted on 04/22/2016 3:31:45 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

I have groupies and stalkers. It’s like I’m a celebrity.


19 posted on 04/22/2016 3:36:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
private polls, and no sample sizes... feh
20 posted on 04/22/2016 3:37:41 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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