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Crockett and Cruz
The Courier ^ | January 3, 2016 | Steve Toth

Posted on 01/03/2016 8:41:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Texans cherish the memory of Davy Crockett's heroic death at the Alamo in 1836 but few know what led him there or why he fought so valiantly. Throughout his life, Davy Crockett was renowned for his love of liberty and fierce loyalty to the Constitution.

Originally a Democrat, Crockett found he could no longer identify with the party's positions which he believed were straying from our country's founding principles. As a man who believed in individual liberty and the principle of congressional restraint this shift was unacceptable to him. He left the party in 1833 and joined the Whig party (forerunner to the Whig Party).

His journey of Constitutional fidelity was strengthened by a well-intentioned mistake made while in Congress. When a fire in Georgetown left several families homeless, Representative Crockett and Congress voted the next day to appropriate $20,000 to the homeless victims. The following year while campaigning in Tennessee, it has been reported that Crockett was challenged by a constituent for his vote of public charity. "Colonel Crockett, your vote for the people in Georgetown shows you either don't have the capacity to understand the Constitution or that you lack the integrity and strength of character to be guided by it."[continued]

(Excerpt) Read more at yourhoustonnews.com ...


TOPICS: Tennessee; Texas; Campaign News; Issues
KEYWORDS: 1833; 1836; 2016election; alamo; charity; colonelcrockett; crockett; cruz; davidcrockett; davycrockett; democraticparty; election2016; publiccharity; sanantonio; tedcruz; tennessee; texas; thealamo; whigparty; whigs
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1 posted on 01/03/2016 8:41:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh my.

Sorry, but Senator Cruz supports lots of government programs that wouldn’t come close to meeting the Crockett test. Things like the entitlement programs of the New Deal and the Great Society.

More and more over the top campaign stuff showing up every day, from all sides.


2 posted on 01/03/2016 8:44:48 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Name a major candidate that doesn’t.


3 posted on 01/03/2016 8:47:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

None of them do. Which doesn’t make this over the top article any more palatable.


4 posted on 01/03/2016 8:49:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Did Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater or the Dick Nixon of 1960?


5 posted on 01/03/2016 8:53:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Crockett story has been researched and shown to be a fable. See, for example "Not Yours to Give": A Fable Re-Examined.
6 posted on 01/03/2016 8:55:26 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Probably not.

But we’re decades past their time. The Ponzi schemes in question are decades and trillions of dollars further down the socialist road.

Our straits are much, much more dire.


7 posted on 01/03/2016 8:56:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’ve read that as well.

However, the principles involved are quite real.

The father of the U.S. Constitution:

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

— James Madison


8 posted on 01/03/2016 9:00:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought it was Sonny Crockett from Miami Vice. My bad


9 posted on 01/03/2016 9:02:07 PM PST by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: EternalVigilance

At least he’s against single payer and corn subsidies.


10 posted on 01/03/2016 9:05:47 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God)
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To: demshateGod

Well, he sure has that on the Donald.

It’s a good thing neither Trump nor Cruz are my plumb line.


11 posted on 01/03/2016 9:09:26 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Certainly cannot argue about the principles and necessity of following what is spelled out (or not) in the Constitution. It is troubling how many bogus quotes and stories are all over the web. In this case, a guy running for Congress should do better than to use a Crockett fable from a late 19th century biography.


12 posted on 01/03/2016 9:14:13 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Well, using it is one thing - it is after all a great story - but it’s quite another to apply it to modern politicians who have made it clear that their goal is to strengthen and prolong unconstitutional New Deal and Great Society entitlement programs.


13 posted on 01/03/2016 9:21:22 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Crockett went to Texas for land, to seek out new hunting opportunities and to reignite his political career.

He saw it as a new beginning, as did so many Americans and others who went to Texas. I believe he would have sent for his somewhat estranged family once he had established himself.

Instead he died at The Alamo and became the stuff of legend.

I was proud to know one of his relatives of the same name.

Thank God for men like David Crockett.


14 posted on 01/03/2016 10:17:17 PM PST by onedoug
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One line of my family, the Longs, were in-laws of the Crockett’s... David had a deaf uncle [I think James Crockett] who as a boy was captured by Indians... most of the rest of James’ immediate family were massacred. By the time he was returned to the settlers, years later, his family had moved on, so he was raised by the Longs, who had fought at King’s
Mountain with David Crockett’s dad, and others.


15 posted on 01/03/2016 10:35:48 PM PST by piasa
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To: max americana

You and me both. I guess that means we’re demented.

Would have been interesting though. With good music.


16 posted on 01/03/2016 10:58:56 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I thought he left because he disagreed with Andrew Jackson over forcing out the Indians...

Jackson arranged to back his opponent, and he lost the election.

17 posted on 01/03/2016 11:18:33 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fable or not, the story is a good one with a powerful lesson.

The central government has NO ... repeat NO ... power, obligation, right or ability to engage in acts of charity. Just as in Crockett’s time, the fact that a majority in Congress are willing to vote for something doesn’t give them the legal authority to do so.

I could type until my fingers fell off listing all the crap that our gummint has approved and rammed down our throats that can’t be found in Article I Section 8. Name ONE aspect of your life that Uncle Sam doesn’t regulate, tax, license, inspect or supervise. From your toothpaste in the morning to your blanket at night, all of it is regulated.


18 posted on 01/04/2016 3:23:34 AM PST by DNME (The ONLY remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They (with a capital "T") say when Crockett lost his place in Congress he told his constituents, "You people can go to hell, I'm going to Texas."

If true, that has to be tied, at least, for the two most fateful juxtaposed sentences in the English manguage.

19 posted on 01/04/2016 4:27:07 AM PST by stevem
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To: max americana
I thought it was Donald Crockett

(j/k)

20 posted on 01/04/2016 5:01:24 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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