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Can Marco Rubio Even Win a Primary?
The Daily Beast ^ | December 4, 2015 | Michael Tomasky

Posted on 12/04/2015 8:00:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Reno89519

Is he? I have not seen any Texas polling.


21 posted on 12/04/2015 8:55:15 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: biff; 867V309; 2ndDivisionVet
Normally, I would agree that Cruz is the candidate. He speaks like a historian and
political scientist and tract writer all-in-one, and for this I praise him.

However, these times are unlike any other in American history, in my opinion. We have
suffered under an administration more anti-American than any other. We are witnessing
the disassembling of our Republic right before our eyes.

Trump pulls together wealth, charisma, patriotism, and force of personality that none of
the others can match. He is his own man, and it resonates loud and clear. No other person
can stand against the Progressivism like Trump can.

And I hope Cruz is his running mate.
22 posted on 12/04/2015 9:00:18 PM PST by jobim
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To: Reno89519

No he isn’t. But don’t let me interfere with your fantasies.


23 posted on 12/04/2015 9:03:13 PM PST by libbylu
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’ll be interesting to see how the boy Marco weathers the exposure of his mistress.


24 posted on 12/04/2015 9:11:42 PM PST by montag813
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To: 867V309

The prez debates will be the deciding factor at the last few weeks of the campaign and if Trump is there he will be decimated by her. I watched part of the last Dem debate and she was smooth, concise, and well versed. His winging it and typical unpreparedness will be his downfall. She will kill him.

I like Trump on the campaign trail but Cruz sitting in the oval office.


25 posted on 12/04/2015 9:15:42 PM PST by biff
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He is not running for his senate seat again so that says everything anyone wants to know about Rubio.He is toast.


26 posted on 12/04/2015 9:20:50 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: biff

WOW! You really believe that nonsense don’t you?


27 posted on 12/04/2015 9:24:42 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: biff
The prez debates will be the deciding factor at the last few weeks of the campaign

IMHO, that's where you're wrong.


28 posted on 12/04/2015 9:44:29 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why are the GOPES (Government Over the People Eliteist Statists) allowing the enemy dictate political stratgery ?

Because they are locked into the game rules of political correctness and “bi-partisanship”. Laid down by a political party which kicked out God,and the 10 commandments. (Thats why everything that comes from Democrats is a lie. They don’t even believe in sin), .

Even it’s name (Democrat)is a lie. But the GOPES can’t say any of the above, let alone ask why we have government in our faces; Or defund the department ordering our schools to; If, boys feel they are or can be girls, or visa versa and they must be able to shower and dress with eachother .

Let alone reduce the value of American citizenship by giving preference to those who through an open border policy who enter this country illegaly. When that country they are comming from denies Americans any of the same privledges. That includes ownership of land and voting.


29 posted on 12/04/2015 9:49:58 PM PST by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why are the GOPES (Government Over the People Eliteist Statists) allowing the enemy dictate political stratgery ?

Because they are locked into the game rules of political correctness and bi-partisanship. Laid down by a political party which kicked out God,and the 10 commandments. (Thats why everything that comes from Democrats is a lie. They do not even believe in sin), .

Even its name (Democrat)is a lie. But the GOPES can not say any of the above, let alone ask why we have government in our faces; Or defund the department ordering our schools to; If, boys feel they are or can be girls, or visa versa and they must be able to shower and dress with eachother .

Let alone reduce the value of American citizenship by giving preference to those who through an open border policy who enter this country illegaly. When that country they are comming from denies Americans any of the same privledges. That includes ownership of land and voting.


30 posted on 12/04/2015 9:54:27 PM PST by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: 867V309

If you can’t stick with the subject .. Rubio .. ??

Don’t try to change the subject and even try to suggest that Cruz is a lightweight. You know he isn’t .. and that’s why you’re trying to paint him the same as Rubio.

Poor thing .. you’ve picked the wrong candidate .. BYE ..!!


31 posted on 12/04/2015 11:13:09 PM PST by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: The Final Harvest
Don’t try to change the subject and even try to suggest that Cruz is a lightweight.

I never did that.

Simple fact is, Trump plays in a different league. Just look at the crowds and media attention.

Hate to tell you, Trump is in Hilliarys league.      Cruz isn't.


32 posted on 12/04/2015 11:34:28 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: 867V309
Hate to tell you, Trump is in Hilliarys league. ,/i>

Faint praise.

33 posted on 12/04/2015 11:43:40 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media .IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No.


34 posted on 12/05/2015 3:36:15 AM PST by AdaGray
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If Rubio finishes third in the first couple of states he can stick around a win a few from the "Establishment Lane". He should get his share of asterisk votes. Right now, Trump is good for 30%, that's his to start. I'm not saying Trump has a low ceiling. We don't know what his ceiling is.

Even if Trump starts running away with it, there might be some states where an not-Trump vote could unite for Cruz (south, mountain states, heartland) or Rubio (northeast, west coast).

In the 1976 Dem primaries, Jerry Brown and Frank Church jumped in halfway through, and each won a small string of primaries. Had Brown jumped in earlier he might have been the nominee, and at that time (pre MedFly, Linda Rinstadt) he could have won the whole thing instead of Jimmy Carter.
35 posted on 12/05/2015 4:21:55 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: 867V309

Well said. In a normal race, Cruz would be the best choice by far. But Trump’s candidacy is truly special for the connection to the voters reasons you talked about.


36 posted on 12/05/2015 6:02:14 AM PST by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Yep, sure do. Only time will tell if I am correct. Of course, Trump still has to survive the primaries with his foot in mouth disease. Hopefully he does, but I have my doubts.


37 posted on 12/05/2015 8:30:09 AM PST by biff
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To: 867V309

The independents and moderates traditionally do not make their decision until the debates. Without them he loses, without them she losed.


38 posted on 12/05/2015 8:32:01 AM PST by biff
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From Hot Air Analysis of Rubio chances:
By process of elimination, it is Rubio. If you are center-right, he is not your best bet, he is your only bet. He might not get Trump fans to turn out for him but the rest of Romneys 2012 base will and Rubios personally likable enough (and Hillarys unlikable enough) that he might win swing voters this time. Or maybe he will not; maybe he is destined to lose too, but like I say, to the center-right it should not matter. If they think Cruz and Trump are sure losers in the general, and if Christie and Bush are both longshots in the primary, then Rubios the only option. And I assume most big-name Republicans, increasingly terrified by Trumps popularity and Cruzs organizational strength, understand that. If they are holding off on endorsing Rubio now, it is probably because (a) they do not want to have to insult Bush and Christie by backing Rubio until it is absolutely necessary, and (b) for maximum impact on late deciders in New Hampshire, of which there will be many, their endorsements should be rolled out in late January or early February. I will be shocked, for instance, if you do not see Romney and/or McCain announce for Rubio at the scripted moment, in order to nudge him past Jeb and Christie. The risk in waiting, though, is obvious: The longer they hold off, hoping to time their Rubio support for just the right instant, the more time Christie has to pass him in the polls and the more time Jeb has to catch up to Rubio. Imagine if Romney et al. decide they are staying put until February 2nd and then a poll drops in New Hampshire in mid-January showing Christie at 18 percent, Rubio at 15, and Jeb at 14. With the center-right that closely divided, it might be too late by then for a wave of endorsements to move the numbers much. Which means you are looking at either Trump or Cruz winning New Hampshire and the other finishing second and the center-right champion third. Where does that leave the race before South Carolina? If Rubio finishes fourth behind Christie in NH, the beating he will take in the media for underperforming will be vicious. If he hangs in there anyway, the center-right might end up in South Carolina with another divided vote while Cruz or Trump wins the state. If I were a big-name Republican like Mitt, I would endorse Rubio the first week of January, when people start paying attention to politics again, and then hit the trail for him ASAP. There is really no time to waste to beat back Christie and Bush, especially with Rubio himself being knocked lately for not putting in enough face time in the early states.


39 posted on 12/26/2015 8:14:20 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump 2016! Born in America of two US Citizen Parents! A true Natural Born Citizen!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

great state wide polling
when trump came in the whole topography changed. the link goes to nevada, but you can scroll up and down the states. Trump took out yeb — everywhere. would love to have the database.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016#Nevada


40 posted on 12/26/2015 10:27:08 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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