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Citizenship Questions Continue to Follow Cruz
The Texas Tribune ^ | November 29, 2015 | Patrick Svitek

Posted on 11/29/2015 12:34:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Fai Mao
The problem with Obama was more that he was adopted and changed his name in Indonesia and ( I believe) changed citizenship. When did he become American again? When did his name change back to BO? Did he apply for school as a foreign student? There are lot's of problems with BO other than his BC. The BC issue has been argued to death and believe what you will, all you need to be president is one American parent,.....PERIOD! Trying to go back to the original intent of the Founders has been thrown in the ditch. Everything changed after the Civil War. No one running for president after the first few years were born with parents from England. Would someone born in Alabama from 1861-1865 be able to run for POTUS? The 14th Amendment addressed the problem of slaves being here without BC's. There has been a lot of water under the bridge since the original intent.

Now a new question,.... If we passed a law to make both parents have to be citizens, is it just a law or is it a Constitutional change taking 3/4 of the states? The original intent basically says that, but it seems to have been changed.

61 posted on 11/29/2015 5:04:21 PM PST by chuckles
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To: odawg

“When McCain was running, Congress felt it necessary to publish something that declared McCain was eligible to run. No one questioned that he was a citizen at the time.”

That’s true. McCain had two American citizens for parents. And his father was in our military, so even though he really didn’t meet the natural born citizenship meaning, Congress passed the resolution. (Maybe in preparation for an Obama run.)

Obama gives us a phony birth certificate and Republicans roll over and play dead. My thoughts are that Obama was born in Hawaii and may even have two American parents, one being a pedophile communist, Frank Marshall Davis. He is either hiding that or the fact that he was adopted by his Indonesian step-father or both. We never got to see his passport.

If anyone thinks the Dems will roll over and play dead, they are dreaming. They may even want Cruz so they can challenge his eligibility. Alan Grayson is an idiot as we all know, but he is just the first one that will be making the claim to Cruz’ eligibility. The Dems will go after Cruz in a group. Unlike the birthers. We only had Orly making any serious attempts in the courts.

The difference with Cruz and Obama, not counting whatever Obama is hiding, is that Obama officially was born in Hawaii (on the phony birth certificate) while Cruz was born in Canada, has a foreign born father, who had Canadian citizenship and ran a business in Canada. I don’t know how long he ran the business, but Cruz spent at least his first four years in Canada. And his father only became an American citizen in 2005. Most people believe he was fighting against Castro, but he was actually fighting against Batista who was an American ally at the time.

Also Cruz did not give up his dual citizenship until recently. He said his mother told him he did not need to do anything. He is a lawyer and I would have thought he would check on this for himself.


62 posted on 11/29/2015 5:07:05 PM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Himyar

I stand corrected on the location of his birth. I thought I remembered some congress folks claiming he was born on military property. Probably Trent Lott.

But I still say congress “approved” his eligibility when they passed the non binding resolution. And notice in my original post “approved” is in quotation marks.

But my point is they KNEW Obama was going to be running and that it would probably come up. And who did they run against him? A man who wasn’t eligible.


63 posted on 11/29/2015 5:09:22 PM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: Souled_Out; 2ndDivisionVet
When President Cruz assumes office and I come to laugh at you and the other crazy Cruz birthers protesting across the street from the White House, do you promise not to throw kitty litter at me?


64 posted on 11/29/2015 5:15:19 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: FR_addict

IIRC correctly, McCain’s mother had to go to an off-base or “outside-the-US zone in the country of Panama. Someone in the congress decided that could be challenged in curt and they passed the resolution declaring McCain eligible to run for president. I don’t have trouble with US military babies born outside the US being eligible to run for president.


65 posted on 11/29/2015 5:15:47 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Duchess47

Is this you?

http://globegazette.com/news/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/editor-s-inbox-is-cruz-the-gop-version-of-hope/article_4082d776-0f0e-57c3-8e3c-4512ed0f0d65.html


66 posted on 11/29/2015 5:17:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope, I can guarantee that’s not me. I don’t write columns or letters to the editor or anything like that.


67 posted on 11/29/2015 5:24:04 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: morphing libertarian

Nor do I. It seems very reasonable.

It just that it opened the door for Obama because Dems will not admit that the Obama situation was entirely different. I don’t know why he was allowed to run without a real birth certificate in the first place. And then he presents a blatant fraud and the Republicans keep quiet.


68 posted on 11/29/2015 5:27:31 PM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: chuckles

Logically, I would think you would just need a supreme court ruling declaring a natural born citizen would be a person born in the US of American citizens.

Probably though, an amendment would be safest.


69 posted on 11/29/2015 5:35:31 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: tbw2

That sounds like my son’s reasoning as a five year old. Mikey got to do it so I can too.


70 posted on 11/29/2015 5:36:42 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: John Valentine
So you are upset that I will not repeat the lie.

The article is bringing up the subject, if he can not take the statements of individuals, how do you think that works when his enemies bring it up?

71 posted on 11/29/2015 6:18:08 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh,two lawyer's say he is an NBC, problem solved. Geeze.

The more I hear about this guy from his supporters, the more obvious it becomes that he is not ready for prime time.

72 posted on 11/29/2015 6:29:12 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: Souled_Out

The last two Solicitors General of the United States, not two random lawyers out of the phone book.


73 posted on 11/29/2015 6:31:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: COBOL2Java

I promise.


74 posted on 11/29/2015 6:32:18 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lawyers. Do you think if one of the SCOTUS went down, and Ted was President, Ted might lean their way?

Naw, probably not, lawyers are so honest.

75 posted on 11/29/2015 6:41:43 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: Souled_Out

Okay, we get it, you hate Ted Cruz...


76 posted on 11/29/2015 6:43:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not really, as I stated in a previous post, he would make a great VP, if he can get past this NBC thing.


77 posted on 11/29/2015 6:59:06 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: Souled_Out

I’m sorry but I can’t make any sense of what you are saying. I think people who make statements are responsible for their content, even you. You can’t evade responsibility by dodging. So, if you have a problem with my response to your comment, let it out. But knock off with the gibberish. Please.


78 posted on 11/29/2015 7:17:35 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
I accept your apologies.

I thought you might be a little confused when you mentioned "our side lost", I do not know you, I do not have a "side".

It's late, get some rest, maybe tomorrow will be a better day.

79 posted on 11/29/2015 7:28:48 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: FR_addict

History will ook uon Obama’s presidency as staring with the biggest fraud in history and ending with the US endangered and exposed to terrorism. Remember when Obama said there is no war on terrorism in his first year. He was right because he refuses to fight.


80 posted on 11/29/2015 7:37:29 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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