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GOP debate: Biggest winners, losers (Dems, RINOs, academics & press somehow say Rubio won)
WYFF-TV ^ | August 7, 2015 | CNN

Posted on 08/07/2015 12:01:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

CNN Opinion asked a range of contributors to give their take on the first Republican Party debate of the 2016 presidential campaign, and to pick their biggest winners and losers from the night. The opinions expressed in these commentaries are solely their own.

Dan Pfeiffer: The debate was Trumped

This was the Donald's debate. He dominated the discussion, he was the focus of the moderators, social media traffic spiked every time he opened his mouth. Other than Rand Paul (who is apparently still running for President), all of his fellow candidates went out of their way to avoid stoking his ire. Two years after the RNC's post-election autopsy declared that the only path to victory is a more inclusive tone, Trump has pushed the party further to the right on immigration than it has ever been before. Smart professionals in the Republican Party cringed at every mention of illegals, deportations and walls being built.

Trump may have hurt himself or helped himself, no one really knows because he defies all the traditional rules of politics (he probably hurt himself a lot). But his effect on the field is clear. This is Donald Trump's party and all the other candidates just seem glad to be invited.

Winner: Marco Rubio. On a night of very uneven performances, Rubio showed flashes of why Democrats fear him most. He has had a tough few months, losing a lot of altitude and momentum, and basically disappearing from the discussion, but he gave Republicans a reason to remember his name tonight.

Loser: Jeb Bush. After several bad weeks, Jeb Bush could really have used a good night. He didn't have it. Bush, like Huntsman in '12 and Dukakis in '88, seems to shrink under the klieg lights. He was nervous, halting, and just painfully inspirational...

(Excerpt) Read more at wyff4.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2016debates; bush; democrats; rubio; trump
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It goes on and on and on...
1 posted on 08/07/2015 12:01:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rand Paul didn’t win?

What happened to his dad’s fervent fanbase who liked to click online polls?


2 posted on 08/07/2015 12:05:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: a fool in paradise

They finally had to find jobs to pay their “crushing” student loan debt and the payments & insurance on their KIA Soul.


3 posted on 08/07/2015 12:08:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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Rubio did fine. Ben Carson and Scott Walker disappointed slightly. Kasich needs to leave the party; he's a simpering jackass. Hopefully Fiorina will be at the grown-ups table next time, and Huckabee won't. Trump was Trump. He needs to start studying the issues. He came across as a lightweight. Jeb Bush is a lightweight, but he'll be in there until the end because the mushy-middle won't ever desert him.
4 posted on 08/07/2015 12:12:09 AM PDT by FredZarguna ( "I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark Bar didn't COME OUT!!!")
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To: FredZarguna

Oh yeah: Cruz. He was excellent, as expected.


5 posted on 08/07/2015 12:12:48 AM PDT by FredZarguna ( "I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark Bar didn't COME OUT!!!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yup. Pointy heads. One could make arguments in the 2nd debate who won depending on what one thinks a win is. Cruz, Huck, or Trump.. Can make a cogent argument for all three. Rubio had his moments, but so did Doc Carson. But the result is muddled by various ways to view the events,including Fox’s obvious anti-Trump bias.. It wasn’t like the first debate, which Carly owned.


6 posted on 08/07/2015 12:13:01 AM PDT by BigEdLB (They need to target the 'Ministry of Virtue' which has nothing to do with virtue.)
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To: FredZarguna

Dad says it’s his turn.


7 posted on 08/07/2015 12:14:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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Not looking good for Jebby. They say he seems to ‘shrink under all the bright lights’. Being a president, even being a candidate is enormously demanding and taxing. Very few people could do it and do it well. I couldn’t unless I sent myself to a Dale Carngie school for a few years of public speaking. I would have to slowly build up my abilities and confidence.

After all to Jeb’s experience, his hesitancy and amateurish gaffes have people wondering. I personally don’t think Jeb would be doing this at all if his Dad was already deceased.
Such is the pressure of a father’s ambition and expectation.


8 posted on 08/07/2015 12:18:28 AM PDT by lee martell (The sag)
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Dad never understood that if he hadn't lucked into the Vice- Presidency himself, it never would have been his turn.

George Sr. believed he was All That; biting the hand that fed him before his convention was even over.

"Kinder and gentler than who?"

Ass.

9 posted on 08/07/2015 12:25:05 AM PDT by FredZarguna ( "I pulled the lever on the machine, but the Clark Bar didn't COME OUT!!!")
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To: FredZarguna
I did expect Cruz to be excellent, but he sure didn't get much mention in that article. He needs column inches to get his name and platform out there.

For me, he is the best choice, but people won't choose the candidate they don't know. The Trump circus will eclipse Cruz if Ted doesn't get more coverage.

10 posted on 08/07/2015 12:29:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: a fool in paradise

The drugs maybe wasted them all finally.


11 posted on 08/07/2015 12:43:27 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I agree with you, but the press and establishment that has control of the political game board will not allow Cruz to break out.
He will be given limited time, questions and they will rehash old stuff after redressing what Cruz did with government closing and such as a bad thing.

The establishment is shared by the Democrats and the GOPe. They will do anything to avoid a President Cruz or Trump.

I would love Cruz but he isn’t known enough to get elected yet. I think Trump has a chance, I think Cruz could end up VP and after 4 years of Donald you could get 8 years of Cruz.
That is one possibility.
Another is you get a Trump nomination and a Carly VP to attempt a reach for the woman vote.


12 posted on 08/07/2015 12:49:02 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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13 posted on 08/07/2015 12:58:34 AM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Red Steel

I wish he’d quit pulling his punches.


14 posted on 08/07/2015 1:00:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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Bimbo and a Joke...



15 posted on 08/07/2015 1:13:04 AM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: FredZarguna

I thought Huckabee did very well. He made good points and looked and sounded confident doing so. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a bump in the polls.

Jeb was awful. Scott Walker wasted a big opportunity. Christie and Paul hurt each other with no benefit to either. Cruz was solid. Rubio was a dud. Kasich looked vice presidential.


16 posted on 08/07/2015 3:08:39 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio=no GRAVITAS


17 posted on 08/07/2015 3:36:08 AM PDT by ballplayer (hvexx NKK c bmytit II iyijjhihhiyyiyiyi it iyiiy II i hi jiihi ty yhiiyihiijhijjyjiyjiiijyuiiijihyii)
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I think Kasich came across pretty well. I think Ted Cruz handled his questions well but he didn’t shine as much as I thought he would but I think that’s due to the large number participants; and the number of people goes down he’ll have more questions to answer. I think that there were three losers; Brett Baier, Chris Wallace, and Megyn Kelly. I thought their questions were, for the most part, stupid and shallow. It was not a recommendation that FOX moderate future debates.


18 posted on 08/07/2015 3:47:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Biggest loser: Megan Kelly. She took one too many pills last night and permanently lost it. An anchor no more, she is now Megan the Queen of Snark.


19 posted on 08/07/2015 4:47:49 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

rino rubio is jebbush jr.


20 posted on 08/07/2015 9:07:35 AM PDT by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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