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Republicans are alienating the 2 voter groups they need the most (Jamelle is concerned)
Business Insider ^ | July 12, 2015 | Jamelle Bouie, Slate

Posted on 07/12/2015 2:07:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

With his angry rants against undocumented immigrants, Donald Trump is a stark reminder of the GOP’s terrible problem with Latino voters. In short, Latinos don’t like—or trust—the Republican Party.

But Trump also illustrates a second, more complicated problem. As long as his rhetoric has a place in Republican politics—as long as it has defenders—it won’t just alienate Latinos. It will offend and turn off voters who have conservative ideas and beliefs but won’t sanction or support anti-immigrant sentiment.

Before looking at this other side to the “Latino problem,” it’s worth examining the first one. In the past two presidential elections, Democrats have won more than two-thirds of Latino voters, reversing and eroding gains made during George W. Bush’s administration. Part of this is anti-Republican backlash after the 2008 recession and the tail end of the Bush presidency, but even more is the intense anti-immigration wave that swept the GOP in the wake of the Tea Party’s rapid rise to prominence...

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: hispanics; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; latinos; racism; teaparty; trump
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If Don Trump were truly damaging the Republican Party, these people would be the last ones sounding the alarm. What a laff!
1 posted on 07/12/2015 2:07:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jamelle is sooooo concerned for the GOP. I didn’t realize rats cared for the GOP so much. Aren’t we all feeling the love?


2 posted on 07/12/2015 2:10:07 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Marching orders from camp’s Hillary and Jeb!


3 posted on 07/12/2015 2:11:10 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE Support FR - GO MONTHLY - Join CLUB 300 - God bless FR's Donors!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It’s not clear that there’s a way out of this dilemma. But if there is, his name is Marco Rubio. There’s no evidence the Florida senator can pull Latinos back to the Republican Party, but as a young Spanish-speaking politician of Cuban descent, he projects the same cosmopolitanism of Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign.

Other than the Nazis, I can't think of a single group in world history more consumed by their obsession with race than the current American leftist.

4 posted on 07/12/2015 2:11:38 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yup, if they wanted to run against Trump they would be praising him, not excoriating him.

This is who they want to run against!

5 posted on 07/12/2015 2:12:44 PM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“It will offend and turn off voters who have conservative ideas and beliefs but won’t sanction or support anti-immigrant sentiment.”

It probably will offend them, all four of them.


6 posted on 07/12/2015 2:14:40 PM PDT by odawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump and Republicans in general are pro-Latino and pro-immigrant.

Trump and the Republicans are anti-criminal. As much as Slate and their ilk might not like it, “Criminal” does not equate to “immigrant” or “Latino”. Or even “Latino immigrant”.

It does equate to people of whatever ethnicity who violate US immigration law and sneak into the country across a porous and poorly policed border without so much as a “how-de-do” to the US immigration authorities. Until of course, they have made contact with the local Democrat machine and been set up with a taxpayer-paid immigration lawyer, food stamps, school for the kids, free medical care etc.

All this is not lost on the American voter even if it seems to be lost on the spittle-flecked “journalists” at Slate and their ilk. Republicans will not be harmed by this debate. Keep it up.


7 posted on 07/12/2015 2:15:41 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Moorings

Piss off Jamelle, you commie wanker!!!


8 posted on 07/12/2015 2:16:05 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For each hypothetical Hispanic voter that the Republicans get for pushing Open Borders and IGNORING the death of that woman in San Francisco, they lose 10 conservative voters (either they will stay home or they will vote 3rd Party...they are through putting up with this crap).

Likewise, for each hypothetical Hispanic voter that the Republicans lose pushing Border Security and promising to clean up the mess left by Obama (and earlier Republicans, for that matter), they GAIN 10 conservative voters who otherwise would not have voted (or voted 3rd party). Furthermore, Republicans will pull-in a decent number of America-Loving Independents (yes, some independents love America), and very possibly a fair number of Democrats (no comment regarding love of America, although there was a story last weekend about a union member that got caught by a surveillance camera holding an American Flag - needless to say, he apologized PROFUSELY and promised to never do that stunt again).

I can see why the Democrats are now DESPERATE to get the Republican Party back to demoralizing its base - it scares the hell out of them if we actually have a candidate we will turn out for - and I don’t blame them.


9 posted on 07/12/2015 2:17:09 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That block, along with another block never really helped the Republicans before, can’t see why they carry so much weight now. Just get the consertatives out in full force and along with the rest of the dissatisfied people and we can win big time. Nominate CRUZ and , I believe our problem is resolved. Just my opinion.

If you remember Sarah drew crowds like Donald is presently drawing, those are the dissatisfied voters and they will come as long as they stay in view/sight until Nov. 2016


10 posted on 07/12/2015 2:18:33 PM PDT by depenzz ("it isn't a chance you take, its a choice you make")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; onyx; Army Air Corps; GraceG; GeronL; Norm Lenhart; cripplecreek
If Republicans Hate Latinos as much as we say we do.

Then how come back in 2010 and 2011 when I was heavily involved in The Tea Party and Sarah PAC, All The Chairwomen were either Latinas, Filipinas or other East Asians?

Is it because the Tea Party Transcends that sort of differences?

That we do truly believe E pluribus unum? HMMM? Or is it that Balkanziation always suits the left best? >:(

11 posted on 07/12/2015 2:18:50 PM PDT by KC_Lion (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! G-d bless you all!)
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To: Bobalu

Actually that is a photo of Alfonso Bedoya, one of my absolute favorite Mexican actors. Good in Treasure of Sierra Madre, Great in Big Country with Gregory Peck.


12 posted on 07/12/2015 2:19:28 PM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Phillip Nolan every day.)
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To: Tupelo

Yes, he was very good!


13 posted on 07/12/2015 2:21:14 PM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But Trump also illustrates a second, more complicated problem. As long as his rhetoric has a place in Republican politics—as long as it has defenders—it won’t just alienate Latinos. It will offend and turn off voters who have conservative ideas and beliefs but won’t sanction or support anti-[illegal] immigrant sentiment.
(Correction added to make statement truthful)

Who are these people who have conservative ideas and beliefs but love illegal immigration? Is that you, Marco? Remember, telling lies is not very becoming and traitorous anti-sovereign nation behavior is even worse.

14 posted on 07/12/2015 2:22:13 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: depenzz

If Ted could get better coverage, he’d be drawing such crowds, I believe.


15 posted on 07/12/2015 2:23:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Angry rants? They are terrified he is going to destroy their Marxist arrangements.

Pray America is waking


16 posted on 07/12/2015 2:25:45 PM PDT by bray (Cruz to the White House)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love these libs who think they know the first thing about Conservatives. And of course, they are soooo concerned about our electoral prospects.

Libs don’t even know their own candidates are pandering to their base instincts. They have not the slightest idea of the damage being done to this country by a criminal elite that seeks to use them as mere bodies in a repeating re-election scheme. They’re “in” on it, and they think it’s great.

The idea that Republicans will ever, ever, ever, achieve any Hispanic electoral clout next to Democrats with the perpetual propaganda and the unending giveaways is proof positive of the full-on delusion of these volunteer liberal advisors. Guys like this and their allegedly helpful ideas don’t even rise to the level of noise.


17 posted on 07/12/2015 2:26:35 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: BobL
You know what I did in the 2014 TX elections? I left most of my ballot blank.

As a conservative Latino in Dallas Co, there simply wasn't anyone worth voting for, with Dallas being a Dim fortress.

And some of them would win by default anyway because they ran unopposed. Others were one-party contests, with nothing but Democrats running against each other.

IOW, they're "alienating" the illegals among me, but they're also alienating conservatives from the same minority groups. And in greater numbers!

18 posted on 07/12/2015 2:26:48 PM PDT by __rvx86 (The time for civility among conservatives is long over. We must fight the Left on their level.)
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To: Rome2000
But she's so concerned.
19 posted on 07/12/2015 2:27:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe that as well. Cruz is my first choice and Trump is my second choice. They need to stick together. I wish Cruz was on the stage alongside Trump at these speeches.


20 posted on 07/12/2015 2:28:03 PM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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