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In Iowa, GOP voters are uneasy about Paul’s crusade against NSA spying
The Washington Post ^ | May 31, 2015 | James Hohmann

Posted on 05/31/2015 11:02:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

DAVENPORT, Iowa — Rand Paul would notch a big victory in Washington just after midnight Monday if he follows through on his promise to block the renewal of the anti-terrorism law used to justify domestic spying programs.

But back in Iowa, where Paul has tried to use the issue in recent days to revive his struggling presidential campaign, many Republican voters have responded with unease.

Even some who stood in line to see Paul as he traveled the state last week said that they simply could not agree with his argument that the National Security Agency’s bulk data collection was an unreasonable invasion of privacy.

“If you’re not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?” said Tom Charlton, 64, a retired sales training manager for a tire company, who was first in line at a book signing with Paul in Davenport. “If this can stop one attack, it’s worth infringing on legal citizens’ rights.”(continued)

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Bet he didn't see that coming. Iowa is not New Hampshire.
1 posted on 05/31/2015 11:02:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Iowa has some of its roots in the Midwestern Farm Socialism that infected the plains at the turn of the 20th Century.


2 posted on 05/31/2015 11:05:32 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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Just like Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois.
3 posted on 05/31/2015 11:07:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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The WaPo says we are all happy with the govt spying on us?? What a surprise!


4 posted on 05/31/2015 11:09:42 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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—...they simply could not agree with his argument that the National Security Agency’s bulk data collection was an unreasonable invasion of privacy.—

I thought the good people of Iowa loved liberty. I stand corrected.

May your chains set lightly upon you...


5 posted on 05/31/2015 11:10:52 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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“If you’re not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?” said Tom Charlton, 64, a retired sales training manager for a tire company, who was first in line at a book signing with Paul in Davenport. “If this can stop one attack, it’s worth infringing on legal citizens’ rights.”

Spoken like a good little German. Guess we don't need any rights anymore, government will never target anyone but the guilty.

6 posted on 05/31/2015 11:12:45 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Hugin

It’s truly unbelievable.


7 posted on 05/31/2015 11:15:14 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Personally, I think the bulk of the outrage is really directed at who is collecting the information and what controls are in place so it isn’t abused. When the leadership is literally a bunch of psychopathic liars, and will accept no oversight they’ve ruined any trust.

Any damage and blame because of a lack of collection in the futures will fall squarely on the shoulders of the collectors who abused their responsibility.


8 posted on 05/31/2015 11:15:26 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Paulie

Why do you think Christian Socialists like Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum are so popular there?


9 posted on 05/31/2015 11:15:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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The bulk collection of phone records is ending anyway (I think) so Rand may be on firmer ground when he can take credit for that.


10 posted on 05/31/2015 11:19:28 AM PDT by erlayman
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yeah, but those are not GOP voters...the GOP voters in Iowa nervous about Paul’s stance are A: hard core Christian conservatives worried about terror and Islam and B: normal national defense hawk type conservatives.


11 posted on 05/31/2015 11:21:33 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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Let me make clear ... I can not STAND Rand Paul.

Haven’t said that, those Iowa GOPers need to get a clue. NSA domestic spying is on the road to fascism.


12 posted on 05/31/2015 11:21:58 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: erlayman

You actually believe that? Hahahahahaha!


13 posted on 05/31/2015 11:26:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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“If you’re not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?” said Tom Charlton, 64, a retired sales training manager for a tire company, who was first in line at a book signing with Paul in Davenport. “If this can stop one attack, it’s worth infringing on legal citizens’ rights.”

Thank GOD I no longer live in that state of Iowa which is nothing but a bunch of Idiots Out Walking Around!

Here's the problem for that moron: The NSA, FBI, CIA cannot point to a SINGLE Terrorist attack that's been stopped by infringing on our liberties.

NOT ONE, and they were asked if it had. Not one single government agency in charge of our security at any level could point to a single event spying on all of us stopped.

So if this guy Tom Charlton wants HIS rights infringed I'm all for that, just leave my rights the hell alone you MORON!

14 posted on 05/31/2015 11:29:44 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I pray to God that Rand Paul manages to block that evil POS legislation from getting extended. It needs to be scrapped completely and replaced by common sense. Oh wait that doesn’t exist in the House or Senate. Nevermind.


15 posted on 05/31/2015 11:33:08 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Hugin

that quote has to be fake, maybe the guy is just trolling

or...are there really people that stupid? I guess I know the answer


16 posted on 05/31/2015 11:36:14 AM PDT by thestob (Cruz 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It may not work to his advantage this election cycle but the presence or absence of data collection is not a pressing matter to most people and I do think they will be more accepting of his position with time. And of course not another major terrorist attack God willing...


17 posted on 05/31/2015 11:40:07 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Read the whole article.


18 posted on 05/31/2015 11:41:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any newspaper that has been, or still is, a, ahem,
house organ, must still prove it’s worthiness to
the presiding gang of thieves that allow it to exist.

I suspect these ‘GOP voters’, to have one clay foot.

As with any survey, you keep going till you have
sufficient numbers to support the slant of the article.


19 posted on 05/31/2015 11:46:20 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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I did. I just don’t give a rat’s bazoo what the voters of Iowa think. I also care not if Rand Paul’s candidacy fails. We need him in the Senate fighting for our rights. Everybody can’t be President. The Iowa straw poll is meaningless anyway.

The evil legacy of 911 is the Patriot Act and the formation of the DHS/. Both need to be nuked from outer space.


20 posted on 05/31/2015 11:48:44 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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