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Nate Silver Is Half Right About the Tea Party
Townhall ^ | May 24, 2014 | Kevin Glass

Posted on 05/25/2014 4:06:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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But should it become a party in the future?
1 posted on 05/25/2014 4:06:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NO, do not abandon use of The Tea Party. It can be used as an adjective. “Senator X better vote for strong border defense, before the GOP goes all “Tea Party” on him.
Some say that Tea Party sounds more genteel than “Whoop Ass”.


2 posted on 05/25/2014 4:13:32 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I myself believe that depends in large part, on the GOP during the next year.

I would totally be in favor of a real Tea Party.

However it would be initially be challenging.

Just my .02


3 posted on 05/25/2014 4:14:40 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Going from Whig to Republican was challenging. Starting and growing UKIP in Britain was challenging. Revolting against King George III was challenging. Fighting the Axis and later the communists was very challenging, yet our fathers and grandfathers did it, many of them perishing or becoming disabled in the process.


4 posted on 05/25/2014 4:17:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, so people can have a central place to send money, and candidates can have an official outfit to align with. We can also hold this party accountable.

Right now it is far too easy for some person to say they are the “tea party” candidate because who is to say otherwise? All of these little groups that just use the name themselves to raise money and “endorse” people dont have any more right to define whom is one or not. They also have very little real pull, and no media strategy. Hell they aren’t even in agreement with each other some of the time!


5 posted on 05/25/2014 4:23:34 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “Tea Party” is the party of the Constitution. It’s not complicated.

When I ask libs who ridicule and disparage the “Tea Party”(and I have, plenty of them), what objection they have to government that adheres to the US Constitution, they always refuse to respond.


6 posted on 05/25/2014 4:31:17 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My vote: Leave well enough alone.

The tea party is never going to be the Tea Party. Those who identify with the term will either ultimately infiltrate the GOP to the point where they own it or they won’t. That’s the future, like it or not.

My bet: We will take over the GOP. It will take some time but it will happen.

We took a big step in 2010. Does anyone here doubt that 2010 was a Tea Party election? We have a shot at doing a repeat and taking the Senate in 2014. And, if that happens, it would set the stage for a 2016 trifecta that would end forever any talk of Hillary for Prez. That’s worth working for.

I am hopeful.


7 posted on 05/25/2014 4:32:30 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nate Silver is a partisan hack.


8 posted on 05/25/2014 4:45:31 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We could use a few Old Whigs.


9 posted on 05/25/2014 4:46:07 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
The “Tea Party” is the party of the Constitution.

If that's so, then how does it differ from The Constitution Party?

10 posted on 05/25/2014 4:46:15 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, because it appeals to independents, blacks, blue collar Perotistas, Reagan democrats and libertarians.

It’s bigger than the GOP and its GOPe. If the GOP gets behind it, then the GOP grows. If the GOP undermines it, then the GOP recedes.

As one Freeper aptly wrote, the Tea Party is a frame of mind.


11 posted on 05/25/2014 4:54:35 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

From their website:

Tariffs are not only a constitutional source of revenue, but, wisely administered, are an aid to preservation of the national economy. Since the adoption of the 1934 Trade Agreements Act, the United States government has engaged in a free trade policy which has destroyed or endangered important segments of our domestic agriculture and industry, undercut the wages of our working men and women, and totally destroyed or shipped abroad the jobs of hundreds of thousands of workers. This free trade policy is being used to foster socialism in America through welfare and subsidy programs.

Interesting.

I’ll have to keep paying attention to this group.

Thank you.


12 posted on 05/25/2014 4:59:59 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: TBP
a few Old Whigs

You already have at least one in MS. MS people truly like an old-line incumbent, would have still Stennis and Eastland if they could.

13 posted on 05/25/2014 5:06:16 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The world is filled with hierarchical organizations, sometimes called patriarchal organizations. Most of us know them back and forth and up and down. We understand them, their strengths and weaknesses.

However, please realize that it is *not* the only form of organization. Now, for many people, this realization is impossible, because they cannot imagine an organization that is *not* hierarchical. It *has* to have a leader, by whatever name, and he *must* have subordinates, and they *must* have subordinates, all the way down to the rank and file. It is shaped like a pyramid, with the big boss on top.

But there is also a decentralized organization, sometimes called a matriarchal organization. It can work, be efficient, accomplish things, and even beat a patriarchal organization in a conflict between the two.

Yet the big secret is that there is *no way* for a hierarchical organization to “interface” with a matriarchal organization. When it tries to do so it becomes confused, disoriented, and frustrated.

The Tea Party is a matriarchal organization. And that’s why all those other organizations, like the GOP-e, the Democrats, the MSM, etc., cannot absorb, infiltrate, attack, subvert, or otherwise destroy the Tea Party. They can’t meet it head on in a fight. They can’t go after “its leaders”. They can’t seize its “treasury”.

It is everywhere and it is nowhere. And it drives them crazy. Like each of us, they completely understand hierarchies and how to connect with them. So in their minds the Tea Party must *somehow* have a hierarchical organization. Because otherwise... there can be no otherwise. At least for them.


14 posted on 05/25/2014 5:07:23 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I don’t know.


15 posted on 05/25/2014 5:56:18 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess Mitch hasn’t risen to the level of concern for some that trumpet a republican centric movement..

That his victory is as hollow is as Obama’s promises doesn’t phase them.


16 posted on 05/25/2014 5:59:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

WE have failed miserably before..
Let’s do it again!

The GoPoop bumper sticker


17 posted on 05/25/2014 6:00:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Here is a bit more on the party:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_%28United_States%29

An interesting article. Check out the list of sometime participants, if I got this right:

Pat Buchanan, Jim Gilcrest, Jerome Corsi, Alan Keyes, Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo and others.

Doesn’t seem to carry any significant voter segment yet, but I do approve of their platform.

Thanks again.


18 posted on 05/25/2014 6:05:36 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Whoever decided "matriarchal" means "no leader" never met my mother - or my wife. :-)
19 posted on 05/25/2014 6:57:28 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: TBP
Nate Silver is a partisan hack.

Nonetheless, he was one of the few who nailed the 2012 election result. Conservative leaning pollsters missed by a mile.

20 posted on 05/25/2014 7:03:39 PM PDT by randita
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