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Top Democrat warns against using term 'illegal immigrants'
The Washington Times ^ | February 5, 2013 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 02/05/2013 4:23:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Opening the first immigration hearing of the new Congress, the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee warned his colleagues not to use the term "illegal immigrant" as the debate goes on.

"I hope no one uses the term illegal immigrants here today. Our citizens are not — the people in this country are not illegal. They are are out of status. They are new Americans that are immigrants," said Rep. John Conyers Jr., Michigan Democrat.

As Congress begins the immigration debate, both sides are preparing for an emotionally charged fight, and language will be one of the battlegrounds.

Many immigrant-rights advocates object to the terms "illegal" and "alien," saying that people cannot be deemed illegal, and that the word "alien" makes them sound inhuman. They argue the better terms are "undocumented migrants."

Many newspapers, including The Washington Times, use the phrase "illegal immigrant," deeming it the most accurate description...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Michigan; Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: amnesty; congress; democrats; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; johnconyers; michigan; migrants; unauthorizedmigrants; undocumentedmigrants
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Language of the Third Reich Written by Victor Klemperor explains how the nazis changed the language to manipulate German society.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Language-Third-Reich-Imprerii/dp/0826457770

Remember when the word “militia” conjured images of duty, patriotism, and honor?


21 posted on 02/05/2013 4:45:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Next thing you are going to tell us is we can't call people Convicted Felons

Oh, wait ....


22 posted on 02/05/2013 4:45:56 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Our citizens are not — the people in this country are not illegal.

That's the Democrat mindset right there.

Anybody who walks on our soil is now a "citizen."

-PJ

23 posted on 02/05/2013 4:47:16 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


24 posted on 02/05/2013 4:49:28 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many immigrant-rights advocates object to the terms "illegal" and "alien," saying that people cannot be deemed illegal...

Must be the same logic that certain black activists use when they say that it's impossible for blacks to be racist.

25 posted on 02/05/2013 4:53:19 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just die please!


26 posted on 02/05/2013 4:55:25 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Conyers, not you.


27 posted on 02/05/2013 4:56:47 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am too angry at this attack — for that is what it is — on plain language and reality to even attempt to comment civilly.

If I watched Conyers walk into a tree, I would ask him, “What are you complaining about? That wasn’t a tree and you did not just walk into it.”


28 posted on 02/05/2013 5:00:26 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fine. But remember, it’s NOT an Illegal Weapon, it’s an Undocumented Citizen Protection Device. . . .


29 posted on 02/05/2013 5:01:55 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fine. But remember, it’s NOT an Illegal Weapon, it’s an Undocumented Citizen Protection Device. . . .


30 posted on 02/05/2013 5:02:18 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Analogy:

“Before the breaking-and-entering trial began, the presiding judge warned both lawyers not to refer to the defendant as a burglar. ‘This person — he wasn’t in the house illegally. He was only uninvited. Keeping that in mind, proceed with the case.’ “

I don’t want to live in a country like that.


31 posted on 02/05/2013 5:05:20 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What the Representative is trying to say is that the person is not an illegal immigrant, but a potential Democratic voter from lands that are not the United States :-|


32 posted on 02/05/2013 5:11:05 PM PST by Stepan12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Questions for Conyers:

1. How do you define the term “legal,” in reference to citizens of the U.S.?

2. Do all people on the planet meet the criteria of this definition?

3. If not, do the people under discussion meet the criteria?

4. Can you define the term “illegal”?

5. Do the people under discussion meet the criteria of that definition?


33 posted on 02/05/2013 5:13:34 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And we pay this jackasses salary ??

This tool gives retards a bad name.

34 posted on 02/05/2013 5:14:06 PM PST by onona (KCCO, and mind the gap)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Illegal aliens.

And cut off this civil servants salary.
35 posted on 02/05/2013 5:20:23 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the Democrat minority leader on the committee thinks he can enforce a politically correct language change on the rest of the committee?

Fine, if he wants to do that, call the illegal aliens “Mexican citizens”. That is a clear and accurate description of the majority of illegal aliens.


36 posted on 02/05/2013 5:22:25 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: onona

We’be been paying this jackass’ salary since 1964. However, he’s an old communist and has been since the 1950’s. His father was an UAW leader under the Communist Party USA leaders of the 30/s and 40’s, until he switched over to the Social Democrats, the Reuther Brothers.

Conyers has been around the CPUSA and the Soviet/KGB fronts including the World Peace Council, since the 1960’s and 70’s, respectively.

He’s so old that he used to have lunch with Lenin and Stalin. Also was one of two communist congressmen (the other being fellow Detroit slime George Crockett Jr) who refused to condemn the Soviets for shooting down Korean Airliner KAL 007, killing all the civilian passengers aboard, including fellow Congressman McDonald (D-GA).

Conyers, Crockett, Mahaffey, and Henderson, along with former Mayor and CPUSA comrade Coleman Young, are the people who were mainly responsible for making Detroit into a Third World cesspool.

Conyers is not only a communist, but also a mental retard, on purpose. Yet the blacks and white liberals of cesspool city keep on electing him decade after decade, despite what he has done to Detroit and America.

The rich white folk don’t live with the trash, and the blacks don’t care if they live in trash (with some decent people being trapped in their homes by a lack of economic abilities to move up and out of the dung-heap, or because of old age).

When you live in a shithole like Detroit, a couple sheets of toilet paper won’t help.


37 posted on 02/05/2013 5:25:07 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: kosciusko51

I think the right should start using the term “undocumented gun owners” just to see libs head explode. Use their own terminology against them.


38 posted on 02/05/2013 5:26:17 PM PST by abishai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Liz

Dont look at me...

I never call them that...

The proper term is ILLEGAL ALIENS


39 posted on 02/05/2013 5:32:22 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Doogle
"I'll stop using it when they remove "PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH"

I thought about this today while grocery shopping.

Everyone has noticed that virtually everything has a Spanish translation at the bottom. Today I noticed that the Spanish translation has almost become as large as the English at various establishments.

I love learning new languages, but don't tell me that 40% of your customers need to be told in another language to not bring propane tanks into the store.

Legal immigrants would love to speak fluent English.

Why do we bend over to accomodate those that just don't CARE to learn the predominant language?

It really puts you at a disadvantage.

If I moved to Mexico, I'd appreciate it if things were labeled in my language, and great if I meet people who speak it. But I would never be such a baby that I wouldn't make an effort to "get by" in espanol.

40 posted on 02/05/2013 5:33:43 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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