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If the GOPe Were Smart They Would Beg Gov. Palin to Come Back Into the Room
A Time For Choosing ^ | November 17, 2012 | Stacy Drake

Posted on 11/18/2012 8:35:54 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

But this is the “stupid party” we’re talking about, so I won’t hold my breath.

In the wake of the disastrous 2012 election results, there has been a lot of discussion on the right regarding the GOP’s apparent “message” problem. Much of the conversations has focused on immigration issues as a way to bring in new voters. Recently, Charles Krauthammer wrote:

’ve always been of the “enforcement first” school, with the subsequent promise of legalization. I still think it’s the better policy. But many Hispanics fear that there will be nothing beyond enforcement. So, promise amnesty right up front. Secure the border with guaranteed legalization to follow on the day the four border-state governors affirm that illegal immigration has slowed to a trickle.

Imagine Marco Rubio advancing such a policy on the road to 2016. It would transform the landscape. He’d win the Hispanic vote. Yes, win it. A problem fixable with a single policy initiative is not structural. It is solvable.

It’s going to take much more than that to solve the current issues the GOP has with voters. You can’t pander to one racial demographic and think that will solve all of your problems. The predicament that they find themselves in goes much deeper than a single issue, and it’s based primarily on trust. According to an election night survey released by Breitbart News, Judicial Watch, and Public Opinion Strategies:

Voters’ responses suggest that the American public agrees with conservative policies–but does not trust the Republican Party to implement them....

(Excerpt) Read more at thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com ...


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1 posted on 11/18/2012 8:36:10 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You first.

d;^)>


2 posted on 11/18/2012 8:39:20 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It will never happen. The GOP was part of her being put out. The GOP elite is run by people set on being like the Democrats.


3 posted on 11/18/2012 8:42:38 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the GOPe were smart they wouldn’t be the GOPe.


4 posted on 11/18/2012 8:43:20 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No way the Republican party asks palin back in to the fold.
Mrs Palin is a conservative not a dem freaken lite/puke like Romney, Mclame and Dole.


5 posted on 11/18/2012 8:44:55 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is it that Sarah Palin is always waiting for someone to invite her to do something?

She doesn’t want to run for president, but she wants to be drafted.

If Sarah Palin wants inside the GOP room, she should stand up make a case for it.


6 posted on 11/18/2012 8:44:55 AM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hispanics won’t vote for a Hispanic Republican Senator in any realistic numbers (figure no more than thirty percent max). Now, if you came up with an Asian guy....they are more prone to the business side of life and believe more in the American dream, and more likely to vote for a Republican (maybe 75 percent).

Where exactly do you find an Asian Republican candidate?

Or maybe the plan ought to be to find a 50-percent Hispanic, 50-percent Asian, 50-percent disabled, 50-percent female (transsexual) Republican candidate?


7 posted on 11/18/2012 8:46:17 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just as they did with Newt Gingrich, the communists in the state controlled “media” have totally destroyed Gov. Palin. Their communist masters at the DNC gave them their marching orders for destruction and they did their job well. I hate the “media”. All of it. The majority of people living in this country these days are nothing but low I.Q., gullible morons. If it’s on TV or “da intanet”, IT MUST BE TRUE. “Ahh. Bon jour.”


8 posted on 11/18/2012 8:48:16 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We need Comprehensive Election Reform, NOW!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think some of her family memebers do not like the spotlight and do not want to be subjected to the character assasination that would ensue.
Unfortunately, the msm suffers no real consequences for it’s current behavior. It can, and will, protect Obama while gleefully destroying a decent challenger.
I see comments on Freerepublic claiming the msm has lost it’s influence, but I’m not seeing any real eveidence of that. The msm were the king makers of this last election.


9 posted on 11/18/2012 8:49:57 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know if she could win or not but I LOVE the look on the GOPe’s face when we bring her up.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 8:51:09 AM PST by DManA ( you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah will start the Tea Party and become President with out the GOOp.
11 posted on 11/18/2012 8:52:40 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Wiser now

Post of the day.


12 posted on 11/18/2012 8:52:43 AM PST by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Conservatives are fooling themselves about Palin.

As much as I like her, outside of social conservative circles, she is universally considered an idiot. No amount of arguing will change that unfortunate fact, either.


13 posted on 11/18/2012 8:52:47 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not the biggest Sarah Palin fan but I think anyone who looks at things honestly has to say this. 2010 was a Sarah Palin victory, she worked for it, she backed candidates and she revved up the base. The result was a landslide. Sarah Palin completely stayed out of the 2012 cycle and the result was a massive defeat. Is it as simple as Sarah Palin? No. Can she make a difference absolutely. If you don’t’ believe it then let her form a 3rd party and see how many elections the GOP wins.


14 posted on 11/18/2012 8:53:13 AM PST by wiseprince
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

see 2010. I think you’re full of it. She put herself out there, she backed a ton of candidates and traveled the countries promoting her agenda. The result was a landslide victory. It’s quite possible she simply doesn’t want to run for the Presidency


15 posted on 11/18/2012 8:55:30 AM PST by wiseprince
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"If the GOPe Were Smart They Would Beg Gov. Palin to Come Back Into the Room"

And if Gov. Palin were smart, she would avoid the GOP all together. They trashed her, and left her hanging in the wind. They're finished. Through. Too busy doing the "me too," "compassionate conservative" song and dance in order to stay in the country club. They are on a course to completely sell out. Mark my words, the Repubs will soon be making noise about "reasonable gun control" by the start of the new year.

Rubio will not get the Hispanic vote, simply because he's not Mexican. Everybody mistakenly believes Hispanics are one big happy conglomerate. Truth is the Mexicans hate the Guatemalans, who hate the Salvadorans. Everybody South of the Rio Grande can't stand the Argentines because they're snooty. But, everybody, EVERYBODY dislikes the Puerto Ricans.
16 posted on 11/18/2012 8:56:47 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree, this is the stupid party...


17 posted on 11/18/2012 9:02:08 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But they aren’t smart, and they aren’t going to.

What they are is out of time.


18 posted on 11/18/2012 9:04:25 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m done with the GOP and I suspect Sarah Palin is also.


19 posted on 11/18/2012 9:04:52 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Personally, I don’t think Palin can get elected.


20 posted on 11/18/2012 9:05:16 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah Palin has been one of the most inspirational players on the conservative stage for several years now. That's why the media attacks her so.

She went commercial to recover financially from the pain her family suffered after all the Soros/Obama contrived lawsuits and that clouded her otherwise positive image.

21 posted on 11/18/2012 9:05:35 AM PST by Baynative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The destruction of Sarah Palin was done not just by the Dems and their media allies. It was aided and abetted by Romney aides and the GOPe.

Absent a near miracle, the destruction is irreversible. I don’t think she could win a national election.

However, if she goes completely rogue and starts a third party, count me in. She may be the only national figure that could rally actual conservatives to the new party.

A viable 3rd party would most likely mean the GOPe AND the new party gets slaughtered in the first national election. So what? How would that be any different?

If the new party stayed the course it would eventually destroy the GOPe. That would be a very GOOD thing, and worth the price paid.


22 posted on 11/18/2012 9:07:14 AM PST by EternalHope (Be ready.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the GOP were smart, every candidate should just change his name to Cruz or Diego or Santiago. The degree of mindless ethnic voting for the same ethnic group is sickening. I should know having lived in Hawaii a whole lot of years.

The democrats almost always win, but they are smart. They give each ethnic group a chance to run for governor.

For being just angry and racist white guys, we are the only ones who vote for candidates regardless of race.

And I’m really not joking about the Mexican surnames. Change your name. Drop the ‘R’ from campaign posters. Electability problem solved. But then the democrats will start running their candidates with hyphenated Spanish surnames.


23 posted on 11/18/2012 9:07:45 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments?

Search works

24 posted on 11/18/2012 9:08:33 AM PST by TomServo
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Keep FR Running
Fight back.
Counter the MSM spin machine.

25 posted on 11/18/2012 9:08:51 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: EricT.
Conservatives are fooling themselves about Palin.

As much as I like her, outside of social conservative circles, she is universally considered an idiot. No amount of arguing will change that unfortunate fact, either.

Then you're basically saying no conservative will ever again be elected to a national office.

Because the MSM will demonize and vilify ANY movement conservative that tries to enter the political arena. Even ivy league educated, "moderate" Mitt Romney was portrayed (effectively) as an out-of-touch simpleton who's only success was predicated on being born rich....even though he donated his inheritance to charity and became a millionaire based on his own accomplishments.

Unless conservatives are willing to stand up to public ridicule, we will be doomed to a lesser-of-two-evils choice for President from now on.

26 posted on 11/18/2012 9:10:36 AM PST by Bratch
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To: A'elian' nation

Yes Senorita Palino please come run for El Presidente.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 9:12:41 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I came in to read an article about Sarah and was struck with one to overlook law breakers. Anyway, what states did Romney get that deutsch could not?


28 posted on 11/18/2012 9:13:18 AM PST by Sybeck1 (When do the vodka rations start?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What part of Sarah Palin is damaged goods do not some people get...?

There is no possible way she can make a positive contribution to the GOP as an political entity...Sorry, that's just the facts..

Sure conservatives love her (I count myself among them) but vast portions of the American public being the clueless, dumbed down sheep that they are: think of her as the caricature the liberal media made of her...

She is forever linked with that POS McCain...as being part of the GOP establishment...

Yes, she can make contributions to rally the base, but as a public figure...she is toast

29 posted on 11/18/2012 9:14:17 AM PST by Popman
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To: bmwcyle
I never thought that I would say this, but after four years of liberal crap and a toungtied Mitt, I am ready to vote for Sarah Palin for Present. At least she acts like an American and talks like a Patriot. I am about fed up with Chicago thugs and offshore politicians selling our country down the river.
30 posted on 11/18/2012 9:15:19 AM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Sybeck1

Sorry my phone misspelled Sarah


31 posted on 11/18/2012 9:15:28 AM PST by Sybeck1 (When do the vodka rations start?)
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To: ANGGAPO

Most mainline party person in either party are selfish and our for how they can profit themselves.


32 posted on 11/18/2012 9:20:29 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: mountainlion
Sarah will start the Tea Party and become President with out the GOOp.

Spoken like a true believer in the "Palin Cult of Personalty"

33 posted on 11/18/2012 9:20:57 AM PST by Popman
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To: Beowulf9
I hope that you don't think that the present occupant of the White House is very smart? If he didn't have his board of directors he would be lost.
34 posted on 11/18/2012 9:27:30 AM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Popman
“Palin Cult of Personalty”

I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you for Hillary or Romney or Mc Cain? At least Sarah has a personality.

35 posted on 11/18/2012 9:28:08 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
Why is it that Sarah Palin is always waiting for someone to invite her to do something?

Because she's smarter than those who ask such questions. Look at what happened to the "approved" slate of candidates with the help of the RNC. Even then, when Romney became the last one standing, he was demonized by the conservatives to the point hat voter apathy on our side gave Obozo another term. She knows that, without an invite, she has to fight both sides. Without a groundswell clarion call, she's fighting a losing battle and further damaging the conservative cause. Only an idiot would take his/her family through such smears as would occur for no good reason.

36 posted on 11/18/2012 9:28:57 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
I've seen nothing that indicates that Palin "wants to be drafted". If she had wanted to run for the Presidency, it was hers for the taking...SHE decided to not run, no one else.

I don't think she wants to be in the GOP room, as it's turned into the GOPe good ol' boys club. McCain, a RINO, invited her in and she was summarily attacted by the GOPe, including McCain.

Do YOU go busting into placed where you're not welcomed? The GOP has turned from the Grand Old Party, to Gushing Over Progressivism...no Conservatives allowed.
37 posted on 11/18/2012 9:30:12 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The GOPe is a different party from the one Sarah Palin belongs to. Advocating her ascendency would end theirs.

She has to do it herself. They are vulnerable. It could be done. But not with their help.

38 posted on 11/18/2012 9:30:35 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But many Hispanics fear that there will be nothing beyond enforcement. So, promise amnesty right up front

Well as it turns out, Republicans did go for amnesty once, under President Reagan and allowed citizenship to millions, few questions asked. In return the border was to have been secured and such severe penalties for hiring illegals- it was all supposed to solve this issue once and for all.

Before the dust settled on that mess, the dims refused to enforce the border or the serious penalties for hiring illegals. Enforcement has been a joke for years. That is what brought us to where we are today...funny they don't trust us to do enforcement first, I don't trust them to do amnesty first.

39 posted on 11/18/2012 9:33:12 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’ve always been of the “enforcement first” school, with the subsequent promise of legalization. I still think it’s the better policy. But many Hispanics fear that there will be nothing beyond enforcement.

Instead what they want is "amnesty first" with the subsequent promise of enforcement. Conservatives *know* that there will be nothing beyond amnesty. How do we know this? That is *EXACTLY* what happened the last time. And these oh-so smart self-anointed, self appointed pinheaded 'elites' (like Krauthammer) believe we are so stupid as to fall for *that* again?

the infowarrior

40 posted on 11/18/2012 9:33:36 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has anyone thought of this that maybe Sarah did not run for President because she knows this country is going downhill. It is better to let someone own it. Once this nation hits the bottom that is when she will come in and step in. I do believe in my Heart that God has a plan for her regarding our nation. I have no doubt folks she will be our Queen Esther.


41 posted on 11/18/2012 9:38:59 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: darkwing104; Old Sarge; hellinahandcart

Sniff, sniff...


42 posted on 11/18/2012 9:39:25 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ANGGAPO

I did not vote for Obama, if that is what you are getting at. I am prob more conservative than most on this board.


43 posted on 11/18/2012 9:43:57 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: mountainlion
“Palin Cult of Personalty”

Come on now...you know

A cult of personality arises when an individual uses mass media, propaganda, or other methods, to create an idealized, heroic, and, at times god-like public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.

You stated Palin could:
Sarah will start the Tea Party and become President with out the GOOp.

That my FReind will never ever happen

I rest my case...

44 posted on 11/18/2012 9:44:18 AM PST by Popman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin is the only down to earth American that fully realize that the GOP is currently run by garbage and that Democrats are more aligned with communists than a Constitutional America. There are a few others that may be close to equal but they have no guts.


45 posted on 11/18/2012 9:44:59 AM PST by Logical me
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Republicans have kowtowed to the illegal immigration lobby again and again, but their appeasement has never garnered them a greater share of the Hispanic vote.

I heard Rush reading the statistics on this the other day, and it was eye opening. Even Reagan’s signing of the ‘86 amnesty didn’t result in a significant rise in Hispanic votes for the GOP.

It’s a losing issue for Republicans, so they may as well stand on principles and the rule of law. That position resonates with the conservative base, and helps to win elections.


46 posted on 11/18/2012 9:45:10 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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If the GOP-e were smart, they wouldn’t be the GOP-e. The GOP-e just want to use Palin as a trojan horse to get over with conservatives before they do what they always do and that’s sell them out. How many times do conservatives have to be duped before they cut these traitors off?


47 posted on 11/18/2012 9:48:50 AM PST by Hayride
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To: Popman
Most of the mass media is against Sarah.

Which cult are you of?

48 posted on 11/18/2012 9:51:12 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt Backstabber Romney attacked Gov. Palin
and THREW Election 2008to Obama.

Romney supported Obama in the years,
until Romney ran having attacked
every other conservative mercilessly.
Gov. Palin was not even allowed
to SPEAK at the convention.

Then Romney lost by being passive.
Obama won TWICE because of Romney
and Romney’s anti-Gov.Palin attitude.


49 posted on 11/18/2012 9:51:50 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP has folded in with the dems, and have shut out the Conservatives. I think Palin saw this coming and decided that backing or associating with the GOP was a lost cause, instead She is pursuing Her own interests now. I doubt She would give the GOP the correct time of day now.


50 posted on 11/18/2012 9:53:13 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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