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How many votes did the failure of 'Project Orca' cost the GOP? (GOTV experiences massive screw ups)
American Thinker ^ | 11/09/2012 | rick Moran

Posted on 11/09/2012 7:18:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Well, this is incredibly disturbing. And while I don't think you can place the blame for Romney's defeat on this massive screw up in their GOTV efforts, considering the margin of defeat in OH, FL, VA, and CO, it certainly didn't help.

John at Ace of Spades was one of 30,000 volunteers who were to take part in a brand new, high tech program that digitized "strike lists." Basically, the volunteer would be at a polling station and strike off the names of voters as they voted. Then, about half way through the day, they were supposed to send those lists to Boston so that calls could go out to people who hadn't voted yet.

Read the entire post for the maddening screwups that resulted from poor planning and unreasonable expectations of how "Project Orca" would work:

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From the very start there were warning signs. After signing up, you were invited to take part in nightly conference calls. The calls were more of the slick marketing speech type than helpful training sessions. There was a lot of "rah-rahs" and lofty talk about how this would change the ballgame.

Working primarily as a web developer, I had some serious questions. Things like "Has this been stress tested?", "Is there redundancy in place?" and "What steps have been taken to combat a coordinated DDOS attack or the like?", among others. These types of questions were brushed aside (truth be told, they never took one of my questions). They assured us that the system had been relentlessly tested and would be a tremendous success. [...] At 6:30AM on Tuesday, I went to the polls. I was immediately turned away because I didn't have my poll watcher certificate. Many, many people had this problem.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: elections; gop; gotv; projectorca

1 posted on 11/09/2012 7:18:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

John says the entire system crashed by 4:00 PM which means tens of thousands of potential voters never got a call to go vote. Many of those people probably voted anyway, but in an election where every single vote mattered, this kind of clusterfark should have been avoided.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 7:19:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Hacked!


3 posted on 11/09/2012 7:20:38 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: SeekAndFind

The system crashing was really irrelevant since no one could use it anyhow, as the credentials, instructions, signons, etc were all delayed/screwed up.

Basically you had the 30,000+ of the most inspired volunteers (set up in 11 states) flying blind on election day.

Instead of the tem making calls or getting people to the polls they were isolated and left hanging.(Almost like it was sabotaged).

We lost FL, CO, VA, OH by about 100,000 votes each.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 7:23:26 AM PST by nhwingut (Get out & Vote as if your life was on the line. Because it is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I could be wrong, but didn’t Rove handle that for W? He is worthless as a pundit, but if he took care of GOTV efforts, why not get him back. Unless this is his mess too.

The GOP also needs a strategy to deal with voter fraud. I know secretaries of state handle voter rolls, but the governors should put as much pressure as possible. A rat governor would do it.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 7:23:48 AM PST by ABQHispConservative
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To: SeekAndFind

Excuses, excuses. This election was NOT about not being able to make last minute phone calls. The Dem get-out-the-vote effort won the election. It has been geared up and working hard for months.

The Dems sent buses with volunteers that knocked on doors and said, “Come on, let us give you a ride to vote. We will have you back home in 20 minutes.” I did not see one GOP bus pull up to the polling place with voters. Not one.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 7:31:02 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: nhwingut

I early voted in Ohio, but that didn’t stop the 8 phone callers that I got on election day from phoning me. In Ohio, we were bombarded constantly, every day, for several months, by telephone, by mail, by TV & radio ads. Constant.

I wonder now if there were some people who didn’t vote because they felt harassed by those urging them to go vote. I have been in Ohio since 1989, so this is the sixth presidential election while living here. It has gotten progressively worse each time, and this year it was beyond the pale (like 2004 & 2008 weren’t bad enough)!

I can’t wait to move to a non-swing state. Plans and preparation are underway to be outta here before the next election. The off elections are bad enough, but the presidential ones are unbearable!


7 posted on 11/09/2012 7:33:38 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: SeekAndFind

I was door-knocking off of these lists on Election Day in Hamilton County. I walked about five miles of sidewalks.

If the local coordinator had the sense to print them off THE NIGHT BEFORE, it worked just fine.


8 posted on 11/09/2012 7:36:14 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Excuses, excuses. This election was NOT about not being able to make last minute phone calls. The Dem get-out-the-vote effort won the election. It has been geared up and working hard for months.


GOTV and the lack of GOP fightback early, especially in OH. The bailout and Bain trashing obviously worked for Team Kenya in the rust belt.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 7:37:21 AM PST by lodi90
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To: gunsequalfreedom

I agree. The Dems had one huge bus plus loads of volunteers on the day we went to early vote (Thursday before the election). GOP had zip, zero, nada...not one person there.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 7:37:47 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: lodi90
GOTV and the lack of GOP fightback early, especially in OH. The bailout and Bain trashing obviously worked for Team Kenya in the rust belt.

Yes, the Bain trashing early, along with the 47% comment from Romney were played over and over in Franklin county. It was over long ago, and the GOP didn't know it.

11 posted on 11/09/2012 7:41:52 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: TigerClaws

Great minds....


12 posted on 11/09/2012 7:44:32 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: nhwingut
Agreed, there were screw ups. But come on: McCain out polled both Romney and Obama? These people should have been waiting in line at 7:00 am.

One guy called Rush yesterday with the excuse, "Romney wasn't conservative enough and wouldn't take drastic enough measures, so I sat out." Really? So if you have a cancer med that is only 70% effective, you won't take it?

13 posted on 11/09/2012 7:45:55 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: nhwingut

I had the Romney-Ryan app on my phone and I got a message to get out and vote....Wednesday morning.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 7:47:10 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: lodi90

Romney was constrained by this thing called “Campaign Finance Laws”, that said he couldn’t spend money on the General, until he was actually the nominated nominee.

Laws don’t apply to Democrats, as we all now know....


15 posted on 11/09/2012 7:49:21 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Perdogg

16 posted on 11/09/2012 7:49:56 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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gotv ping


17 posted on 11/09/2012 7:53:18 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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To: tcrlaf

Laws don’t apply to Democrats, as we all now know....


If we don’t fight like dims we are going to lose.


18 posted on 11/09/2012 8:02:03 AM PST by lodi90 (Born free, won't die in chains)
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To: tcrlaf
I was door-knocking off of these lists on Election Day in Hamilton County. I walked about five miles of sidewalks.

Thanks, again, for doing that. So, did it end up that turn out was low for Hamilton County?

19 posted on 11/09/2012 8:03:04 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: TigerClaws

I think more than just ORCA was hacked :(


20 posted on 11/09/2012 8:05:05 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: nhwingut

I had a project ORCA guy in my polling place. I was a plain ole poll watcher. It was hard to figure how they were going to get names of voters when they checked in and of course he couldn’t. When the poll watching provision of FL statute says that we must be “allow close enough to reasonably do our jobs”, the architects of this program should have seen a problem with foundation...getting the names. SOE’s in dem counties put poll watchers in the corner. As long as dem and rep are treated alike, we have no grounds to complain.

I was as least able to use the ORCA volunteer to help me as a second set of eyes, but he had little training in what you are and are not allowed to do in the polling place. I would not be shocked to find out that the fair number of ORCA people were ejected in dem areas.


21 posted on 11/09/2012 8:14:58 AM PST by lovesdogs
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To: lovesdogs

Personally, in 2006 I was part of one of these ORCA-type things, and in that case our problem was that we had lists, we got names, and we called them, but the people were dissallusioned by republicans enough that a good number of the people we called came out to vote Democrat. We turned out opposition, because we didn’t do a good job of making the lists clean.

Anyway, I think part of the real problem was that the Romney campaign targetted “unlikely” voters in their early voting campaign, assuming the likely voters would show up on election day.

That works if you can talk your low-propensity voters into voting early. But it seems easier to just target ALL your voters to vote early, so they don’t get dissallusioned at the last minute and decide not to vote.

Imagine how better it would have been for popular vote if the GOP had gotten most of their voters in New York and New Jersey out to vote early, before the storm hit.

I think if they are going to let people freely vote early, it is time for the GOP to try to get every one of their voters to go out and vote early. Especially if they have just determined that the voter will actually support the GOP.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 9:16:18 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ABQHispConservative
I could be wrong, but didn’t Rove handle that for W? He is worthless as a pundit, but if he took care of GOTV efforts, why not get him back. Unless this is his mess too.

Actually he didn't. It was Ken Melman (I forgot how to spell his name, but it was the guy who came out of the closet as gay and is the former chairman of the RNC)that was in charge of the GOTV and the actual implementation of the plans.

23 posted on 11/09/2012 9:23:56 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

Thanks. Then hire that guy. And play dirty, they do and we should not be above it.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 9:27:23 AM PST by ABQHispConservative
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To: CharlesWayneCT

from my personal experience, on the week of the election, 3 dems visited my house. one on election day. I got nothing from gop. Not that it matters since I voted anyway.

But I’m in VA, you’d think the money being spent in a swing state would cover the volunteers.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 10:43:52 AM PST by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: FamiliarFace

What Republican voters have the free time to do crap like that? Democrats are shiftless bums, and have ample free time to shuttle people here and yon for a week.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 11:55:03 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: FamiliarFace

GOP is old and old school. Until the Sununus of the party and other GOP estblishment are gone, it will be a continuing downhill slide...if we dont get to the financial Cliff first.

Meanwhile, when Ron Paul voters ask to be accepted into the party they need to be welcomed instead of shunned. And the stupid destructive social agenda wing of the party needs to come back to reality. How much more ground do they lose before realizing what they are doing does not work.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 2:34:45 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I want to know who the idiots are that need phone calls to get to the polls.

Anecdotal, but my sister lives in Florida. She said she went to early vote 4 times and the lines were so long she kept leaving and coming back. She said the oldsters in line were foaming at the mouth to get rid of this corrupt bastard.

Another anecdotal, someone (FL again, different county) showed up at my 70 year old MILs house to help her vote. She has no idea who it was, they never really identified themselves, I guess. She filled out her ballot for Romney and they left with it. Good guy or bad guy? We'll never know.

28 posted on 11/09/2012 2:52:08 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why would that be? My understanding is that the Orca project was simply a method to call in the voter info on people who HAD voted, so as to reduce the expense of calling everyone else to remind them to vote. So the GOTV effort should have absolutely unaffected and in the worst case just call ALL Republicans in an area lacking Orca data. I have done plenty of calls to people on election day not knowing whether to not they have voted; and if they have, they usually pleasantly thank you for calling and are even glad to know that there is a GOTV project to help out.

In fact, isn't a project like Orca psychologically backlward for just that reason?

29 posted on 11/10/2012 6:45:40 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: LS
One guy called Rush yesterday with the excuse, "Romney wasn't conservative enough and wouldn't take drastic enough measures, so I sat out." Really? So if you have a cancer med that is only 70% effective, you won't take it?

Very well said, LS.

30 posted on 11/10/2012 11:26:47 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: SeekAndFind

31 posted on 11/10/2012 11:30:27 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

Those 30,000 ORCA volunteers weren’t applying themselves otherwise to traditional GOTV—that had to hurt.


32 posted on 11/10/2012 11:56:28 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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