Why, whatever do you mean good sir?!?!
Posted on 11/07/2012 6:10:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
No more! It's time to form a "Tea Party" to supplant the "me too, me too!" GOP. We tried getting behind a Northeastern "centrist" so as to oust the worst president in our history and we crashed and burned. Einstein said "insanity is doing something over and over and expecting different results" or words to that effect and he was right. Nixon, Ford, the Bush family, Bob Dole, McCain and now Romney. What's wrong with this picture?
The Tea Party numbers in the tens of millions, at minimum. I don't remember any other independent movement in our country of patriots, do you? We need to take the next step, in my opinion. What do you think? And how would we get started?
Why, whatever do you mean good sir?!?!
I don’t think a tea-party candidate would work - they would be considered too far right wing. Some of the athiest Independents wouldn’t like it.
Unfortunately, if they are the party of Santa Claus, we would have to become the party of the Easter Bunny. What freebies are we willing to consider giving? (sarc)
This was posted in a similar thread. I don’t know anything about the org, but am looking over the website:
http://www.conservativehq.com/
At a minimum, it’s time to have some sort of conservative, or Tea Party pre-convention to select a conservative candidate to run in the Republican presidential primaries. In 2008 and 2012 we had crowded fields with several fairly conservative candidates and then a RINO or two. Each time we ended up with a RINO who won with little more than 35% of the vote at the point where the winner was apparent.
This splitting the conservative primary vote is a proven formula for nominating RINOs. And it could give us Jeb Bush in 2016.
I’ve gone to a few Tea Party events. They were wonderful. And those things provide visibility, crowds, photo ops, and recognition. But in my area there’s not much of an ongoing, centralized organization. No one is more ready for a third party than me!
My suggestion is that we take a long-term view on the presidency - 12-16 years. The GOP is a damaged brand, as is the “Tea Party” (not the Tea Party philosophy, just the name). There is no point in pursuing either one any more. The media has successfully destroyed them.
Instead, we hijack the Constitution Party and start looking for legitimate candidates who can communicate conservatism in a rational and convincing manner - a cross between Rush Limbaugh and Tom Sellick (I can dream, can’t I?).
In the meantime, we abandon the presidency and concentrate our efforts on getting Tea Party-type people into a majority position in the House and Senate - local and state efforts, not national efforts - more under the radar. If we’re able to do that, whoever is President is immaterial. With 60 senators and a majority in the House, we can get anything passed we want to - overriding a presidential veto as required.
I don’t see any other way at this point. I said early this year that the selection of Mitt Romney as the GOP candidate would be the death of the GOP. We can’t change it from within and I believe that there is no way to convince the mentally-challenged non-conservatives and non-republicans to join us - the media won’t let it happen. It’s time we recognize this and take some positive action to save the Country.
That’s true. Tea partiers went to the Michigan state convention here in Michigan and took down the former GOP chair and national committeeman back in the spring. (Saul Anuzis)
They negotiated an acceptable GOP replacement in Dave Agema. He’s an establishment republican but probably a 90+ percent conservative. He was a very acceptable compromise.
If we run any kind of Bush, whether it be Jeb Bush, George P. Bush, McKenzie Bush, Nigel Bush, Bubba Bush, Trimm “Ed” Bush or whomever, we deserve to lose.
You’re the “newbie” slick. I was at our local Fort Worth rallies, but then ... no follow up.
Agreed. The Republican and Tea Party properties have been run down pretty well. A fresh coat of paint won’t sell either anymore.
It’ll have to be something fresh. That way it can be completely self-defining and unburdened by pre-existing baggage from either party real or imagined.
Libs lie and claim to be moderates. They hate the liberal label. They are nowhere near moderates.
LOL Not one first person reference to the Tea Party. Were you too afraid to join one?
I don’t think it really matters one way or the other at this point. Elections do have consequences. Losing this one the way we did, it’s gonna be pretty difficult to recover from this.
I agree, but if we don’t have some way of limiting the conservative primary candidates to one or two good ones, then we’ll probably get Jeb or some other RINO in 2016.
With just one vote in each state - no run-offs - primary candidates win the primaries with little more than 1/3 of the votes, and the blue states mostly pick our nominee for us while the several conservatives split the votes in the more conservative states.
You were one of the biggest Romney boosters on this site. Welcome back to conservatism.
How correct you are. The Liberatarians are the reason BO won. BO had 10 million less votes because Dems couldn’t even stomach him. Ron Paul and crew decided to stay home and let BO win. Reps. had 2.35 million less voters than Mccain got. That means 2.35 million people would rather be idealistic and lose than win and try to work things out.
Not sure of what the meaning of your post is... But I was the Fort Worth Tea Party rally where Gov. Perry spoke... and drove alone to D.C. from North Texas to spend a week at the massive Tea Party D.C. Protest in front of the U.S. Capitol
Not sure of what the meaning of your post is... But I was at the Fort Worth Tea Party rally where Gov. Perry spoke... and drove alone to D.C. from North Texas to spend a week at the massive Tea Party D.C. Protest in front of the U.S. Capitol
The Democrat Party has from 55 to 60 million loyal voters. To be anything but a feel good exercise, a Conservative Party would have to attract at least that number. Unfortunately, there are not over 15 to 20 million conservatives of voting age and, given our nature, if we did have a separate party we would immediately began fighting about who was a real conservative and who was CINO.
The Democrat Party is the opponent and unless and until conservative, moderate, and liberal republicans accept that we have more in common with one another than with the democrats, the democrats will continue to win regardless of how many opposition parties we divide into. It is fun to discuss political issues on a narrowly defined web forum such as this, but to win a national election you must have a broad based and cohesive organization capable of competing with the real opposition. We don’t have that now thus we continue to lose.
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