Skip to comments.10 Things Everyone Gets Wrong About Ohio and Pennsylvania in the 2012 Election
Posted on 11/03/2012 2:56:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I really hope you hold accountable every conservative writer you see in the next few days freaking out over Obama winning Ohio! because this is ridiculously apocryphal; anyone who has ever lived in the buckeye state should know it is going to award its 18 electoral votes to Mitt Romney this year and it wont even be close. Look for Romneys win to be a 54% to 46% blowout for Republicans. Thats because Ohio is not a swing state this time around
since Obamas deliberate push to the Left over the last four years has forced a pendulum correction shift that has now made Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Oregon, and even New Jersey the real swing states (instead of the swing states being Indiana, Iowa, Virginia, and North Carolina like last time
when the political pendulum had swung wildly to the Left during the now-stale Hopeychange fad of 2008). Theres just no rational reason for anyone to be worried about a Republican losing Ohio if on the last weekend before a presidential election the states really up for grabs with a 50/50 shot of either side winning include MINNESOTA
and a possible (but not necessarily probable) pickup for Romney is actually New Jersey (which, after Hurricane Sandy and the ineptitude that Democrats have shown in handling rescue efforts there, is a true possibility
as crazy as that might at first seem). If you think of that pendulum swinging, it had to pass Ohio to reach the point where Wisconsin and Minnesota are in play (and would need to swing even deeper into Democrat territory to put states like Washington, Connecticut, and Delaware into swing category). I wish it was an absolute armageddon for Democrats...
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I hope he’s right. I think he is, but I don’t wan’t to be too optimistic.
Why not make a list of the biased/worst reporters and send them a note on Tuesday night congratulate them on being on the worst reporters list. A list we can use anytime. Doesn’t matter is the ditz claims to be conservative or liberal - STUPID is all that matters.
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Again, however, there are two things NO ONE is really accounting for:
1) Ds/Rs "enthusiasm gap," as noted by almost all polls (yes, there is an outlier now and then) but basically this is anywhere from 3-5 points. That's a pretty big gap if you're dealing with a million people.
2) The "flipped D." There won't be tons of these, but there will be a goodly share, and NO "flipped Rs" who voted for McCain who now want to vote for ZEro. NO ONE is accounting for these. EVERY analysis I read assumes (as we did in our absentee analysis) that Ds will vote D and Rs will vote R. WRONG. We don't know how much, but we do know that there will be a + number in the Romney column here. Add 1+2 and you have a 3-4 point Romney win.
My only issue is with the idea that the rightward trend in the midwest is a result of Obama or Romney. Its actually a long term trend that’s been going on for a decade (at least here in Michigan)
Kerry only beat Bush by around 4% in 04. 08 was a fluke “historic” election. In 2010, the GOP ran the table on the democrats and they didn’t pick up a single seat above the county level and the GOP took total control of the state government.
I won’t go so far as to guarantee a Romney win in Michigan but it will be very close win or lose. The democrats don’t appear to be mounting any serious challenges to pick up news seats here this time around. I also think the big union backed ballot proposals are going down to defeat.
I don’t know.
When it talks about Washington, New Jersey and Connecticut it falls instantly into the wishful thinking category to me, even without reading the rest.
This is a close election. The best point to predict it will be less close than it looks to be is saying that many pollster are sampling the likely voters like we still were in the fall of 2008 and that can make the difference in Romney advantage.
Romney is a position to win, he’s up in Florida, Colorado and Virginia. He just need Ohio or Wisconisn+Iowa or Nevada+Iowa to unseat Obama, so there are several possible paths, but none of them has to be taken for granted and there is no landslide coming. Keep that in mind otherwise any not-so-great poll will be disheartening.
I don’t think that talking about winning New Jersey can put anyone in the right track.
This is how I see things from 7000 Km away.
Gov. Romney is running ads in Pennsylvania and maybe Oregon.
Why are you putting up articles without any opinion of your own?
Pennsylvania is still possible and having enough money they did the right thing buying all the ads, and making two stops just in case.
My view about Pennsylvania over the years has always been the following: in oder to win Pennsylvania a GOP nominee must have such a national advantage (more than three points) that he dosen’t need Pennsylvania to win the electoral college. But if they sense there is a real chance it’s right to give it a try. I saw the Ryan rally earlier today and people were really on fire.
Oregon, honestly I don’t see it coming.
Concerning Minnesota I was wondering if buyng ads there could be a way to “attack” east Wisconsin. Cause Wisconsin is really a possible catch this year and a critical one!
I hope so. We know that Romney is getting the independents, more women,etc etc. We know that most people think the USA is on the wrong track. Obama has Majority disapproving.
After all that, I don’t really see how it could even be close. Now about stealing the election. I just don’t trust those touch screen thingy’s. Even if it shows Romney, how do you know someone didn’t program it to go to Obama?
I just heard Obama at a rally a few minutes ago give his Osama is dead and Al Queada is on the run. Can’t believe he is back to saying that. Anyway, he sounded totally flat, bored, like he was reading an unappetizing school lunch menu.
Sure Romney will outperform a guy like Gingrich by at least 20 points in the north east. But I suspect a guy like Gingrich would lose in Connecticut and New Jersey by a lot more than 20 points, so...
Anyway, no one would be happier than me if Romney would carry those states. I have a political GOP oriented blog here in Italy and I’ll be doing liveblogging the whole night (7 hours tome difference with the US east coast). If Romney would carry those states we could call the election soon enough to allow me for at least a couple of hours of sleep :)
Sorry, I meant the ads bought in Minnesota could be a way to attack WEST Wisconsin. I mistakenly wrote east.
Thanks for the insight.
If I may make a friendly suggestion....that nice report would have been much easier and more pleasant to read if it had been broken into two or more paragraphs.
In a huge block of copy like that it’s difficult to move down line-by-line without losing one’s place, skipping lines, etc.....at least, for an old codger like me.
That was how he wrote it. The break for the next paragraph was coming up but I only can go to 300 words. I almost never change something from how the author presented it.
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