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Rand Paul: ‘I think the election is over. I think that Romney has already won’
The Daily Caller ^ | September 20, 2012 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 09/20/2012 9:06:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

(VIDEO AT LINK)

On Hugh Hewitt’s radio show on Wednesday, Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul said that as far as he was concerned, Mitt Romney was already the victor over incumbent Democratic President Barack Obama.

“You know, I think — I’m in the minority here, but I think the election is over,” said Paul, who was on to promote his new book “Government Bullies: How Everyday Americans Are Being Harassed, Abused, and Imprisoned by the Feds.”

“I think that Romney has already won,” Paul continued. “The people really are tired of the debt. They’re tired of irresponsible leadership. I think they’re tired of having 23 million people out of work. So, I think you’ll find — and this is my prediction, and of course, I could be wrong. I am fallible.”

Paul went on to tell Hewitt, who has his own recently released book, “The Brief Against Obama: The Rise, Fall & Epic Fail of the Hope & Change Presidency,” that things are lining up much like they did in the 1980 election for Ronald Reagan on the economic front, which will work in Romney’s favor.

“But you remember when Reagan just pulled away from Carter at the end?” Paul continued. “I think that’s what we’re going to see is people coalesce and find that the country’s just not headed in the right direction with all this unemployment and economic stagnation and that they want somebody who’s been in business, somebody who’s run successful businesses and created jobs. I think that’s the way it’s going to break down, simply on that issue, is which way do we take the country — with someone who likes American business, or someone who can’t wait to sort of punish, regulate and tax American business.”


TOPICS: Kentucky; Campaign News; Polls; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2012; economy; kentucky; lping; obama; randpaul; romney; unemployment

1 posted on 09/20/2012 9:06:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and this is my prediction, and of course, I could be wrong. I am fallible.”

...yep. He’s a Republican. No commitement whatsoever.


2 posted on 09/20/2012 9:10:46 AM PDT by albie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree Rand but we can’t stop working now....


3 posted on 09/20/2012 9:14:19 AM PDT by jokemoke
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To: albie
Saying that you're not infallible is being noncommittal? These are men, not gods.
4 posted on 09/20/2012 9:23:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tired of the CHAOS, a regime of disrespect, dishonor, overturned traditions, unbelievable and outrageous comments and actions, heavy-handed domestic assault while weakness abroad, and a President who’s on TV EVERY DAY. Sick of it. Get the race card, gender card, and gay card OUT of our administration and get back to traditional American values again! Get the ghetto OUT of our White House. No more Jay-Z.. Get the Muslim Brotherhood OUT and return to meetings with Netanyahu and a NORMAL, FRIENDLY domestic economy and STRONG foreign policy and NOT GAY MILITARY and with NO apologies!


5 posted on 09/20/2012 9:23:47 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve said this for months, and nothing has made me change my mind on this at all...

This thing isn’t even close and never was. I am not saying all the pollsters are manipulating data, though its BLINDINGLY obvious some of them are.. but the polls are just not picking up what’s going on on the ground.

I believe Obama has ZERO chance at any state where got 55% of the vote in 2008 or less, PERIOD. I believe Obama has an absolute popular vote max nationally in the 42-43% range and very possibly could end election day with less than 40% of the vote.

Now with Rand’s caviat, I am fallable.. but I have talked to so many people from so many different backgrounds and walks of life, political, socioeconomical, age, race, religion, creed.. and the support for Obama just isn’t there, I don’t care what the polls are saying.

I know anectdotal evidence doesn’t prove anything... but I am going OUT OF MY WAY to talk to known democrats, life long democrats, of all races.. and easily, easily 20% are openly stating they will not vote for Obama in 2012 and more than a few openly attack the guy in far worse words than anything I would use. “Swing” voters I talk to are easily 2-1 against Obama... Republicans are ROCK SOLID in their intent to get to the polls and vote, while Romney may not give them that old tingle down their legs, the hatred of Obama and the recognition of how he’s been a destructive force for America is universal. Now those that tend to be for Obama, I’ve talked to are more often than not fall into 2 categories insanely RABIDLY for him, or just I vote democrat, period types... that’s it. The overall support just isn’t there that I am seeing for this guy, the the absolute disgust with him is universal.

In fact the only place I consistely find SOLID support for OBama are folks in Academia, that’s about it.. no other group, traditionally democratic or not that I have spoken with remotely is solid for the guy. Blacks, whom I have spoke to, while I am sure Obama will win the majority of their vote in November, don’t remotely seem enthusiastic about it.. I know he’s going to take a huge percentage, but I don’t think it’ll be ANYWHERE near the 95% he got in 08.


6 posted on 09/20/2012 9:24:00 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
47% came up in Nixon vs McGovern, the last time we had a candidate who wanted to increase the number of government dependents watch.
7 posted on 09/20/2012 9:24:55 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“But you remember when Reagan just pulled away from Carter at the end?”

I do, but the polls didn't change until the very end and even then, they didn't show a RR blow out.

The liberal poll pimps were sticking to their positions until the last second, and then only try to protect their future viability.

The Reagan victory was a giant ass whoppen and even more so because it was done without conservative talk radio and the net, so everyone of us that voted for Ronaldus were scared spitless because we had no way of knowing that we were the vast right wing conspiracy and were a very large majority.

Who knew?

Only the Shadow knew.

8 posted on 09/20/2012 9:25:52 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Under no circumstance can the Art of Stupidity be safely ignored.

....with apologies to Sun-Tsu.


9 posted on 09/20/2012 9:27:12 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The word "Allah" describes a mental disorder.)
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To: albie
"...yep. He’s a Republican. No commitement whatsoever."

If you don't think that Rand Paul is one of the 'good guys', then there aren't any good guys in your book.

10 posted on 09/20/2012 9:27:25 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'd agree with the senator. I this Osama is toast. His record will be his pink slip. Romney just needs to not make a mistake.
11 posted on 09/20/2012 9:28:34 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Democrats are demoralized, ashamed to even proclaim support of Obama at this point. But November 6 is still a lifetime away in politics. Cry Havoc, and unleash the hounds Mr. Romney. This moment has been a long time comming.


12 posted on 09/20/2012 9:28:40 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: HamiltonJay

“In fact the only place I consistently find SOLID support for OBama are folks in Academia”

In other words America-socialists want one of their own to win. This will never change as a long as draft-dodging American socialists dominate academia in this country.


13 posted on 09/20/2012 9:33:18 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Any news anchor on election night. (Pick your favorite)

Well it's undeniable now, Mitt Romney has sadly won the election. I say sadly because the only conclusion you can come to, given the huge lead Obama had in the polls, is that America is indeed a racist country.

14 posted on 09/20/2012 9:33:57 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just short of this time in 2004, I (and many here) were projecting a McCain win, and then, the financial collapse occurred, McCain handled it poorly, and a major shift in the polls happened.

Short of a major economic disturbance, a major domestic terror attack, or war with Iran, I strongly suspect that Romney will win going away.

Does anyone know anyone who voted for McCain but will vote for Obama now? I'll bet everyone knows three or four folks who will switch from Obama to Romney. And how many of those emotional, immature idiots who were so in love with mr. hopey changey are disillusioned now and won't show up to vote for the SECOND time in their lives? Things are a lot worse now than they were in November of 2010, that was just a taste of what's in lie for the democrats.

15 posted on 09/20/2012 9:35:38 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Deep democrat depression coming November 2012...


16 posted on 09/20/2012 9:46:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am still very worried. The demographics of this country have changed dramatically since 1980 and 1984. Millions of people who voted for Reagan are now with him in heaven. Millions of Reagan voters have been replaced by sub-literate immigrants, the spawn of illegal aliens, and young people who have been brain washed with Marxist propaganda in gubmint schools. I also think that Romney is a vapid dork and a bad campaigner.


17 posted on 09/20/2012 9:46:38 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: forgotten man

Demographics haven’t changed from 2010 and we all know what happened then.


18 posted on 09/20/2012 9:49:04 AM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: tatown

I hope you are right and I am wrong.


19 posted on 09/20/2012 9:55:40 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: tatown
I hear you, but I can't help thinking back to 1996. After the 1994 revolution we all thought that Clinton was toast, but he cruised right past Dole and won. Then again, Obozo isn't Clinton. But Romney is dangerously close to being Dole.

Hopefully I've just got the jitters. It's not as if I'm any good at prognosicating. I was 100% positive that Mondale had a lock in '84 and Reagan went on to win 49 states. Jitters, I tells ya.

20 posted on 09/20/2012 9:57:44 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: jboot

Big difference. In 1996 the Clinton media was out there screaming day in and day out how Clinton had single handedly turned the economy around. The economy was in fact improving in 1996 and a lot of voters said “Well let not rock the boat now that things are getting better.

In 2012 there is nothing for the media to point to and claim Obama is making things better. Across the board Americans are worse off after 4 years of Obama economics.

That is why they spend all day every day pushing the Romney attacks. They absolutely have to keep the focus off Obama’s epic failure as President. All that is left for the Obama propaganda machine is to try and distract and divert the people off the facts.


21 posted on 09/20/2012 10:03:12 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: jboot

One other thing, remember Perot was a spoiler for Clinton in 1996

No third party candidate in this election is coming anywhere near pulling the sort of votes Perot did.


22 posted on 09/20/2012 10:05:30 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There was a report several days ago that the ministers of Black churches are telling their congregations to sit this one out, and a lot of the youth vote has lost their enthusiasm for the won, since they have seen the job market.

If these hold true Romney along with the Bradley effect we could see a landslide.

23 posted on 09/20/2012 10:05:42 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: USS Alaska

In 1980 I swallowed the CW and expected a long night. We invited both liberal and conservative friends over for a watch party. By the time I got home with the snacks to get started it was all over. The party didn’t last long, but boy did I have a good time!


24 posted on 09/20/2012 10:07:18 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: MNJohnnie

Point conceded on Perot (may he rot in...oh, he’s not dead yet), but Ron effing Paul could cost Romney NV, which he desperately needs.


25 posted on 09/20/2012 10:08:45 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: MNJohnnie
remember Perot was a spoiler for Clinton in 1996

That was in '92 Bush I defeat, not Dole.

I knew then that any Republican would have beaten BJ after his scandals, EXCEPT Dole.

26 posted on 09/20/2012 10:11:51 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D. in L0w and H0lder)
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To: jboot

Clinton was popular in 1994 and the economy was ‘rockin’ as well. Completely different dynamic than today...


27 posted on 09/20/2012 10:12:16 AM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Romney and his advisers have so far screwed up a great opportunity.
All they have to do and need to do is focus on the economy, run ads just on the price of gas from when Obama took office and what it is now.
Yet they have made one mistake after another.
All they needed to do was follow the old Clinton Playbook of 1992, It’s The Damn Economy Stupid, and nothing else.
It’s Romney’s election to lose and he needs to turn it around or he will lose.


28 posted on 09/20/2012 10:13:19 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: McGruff
I don't agree at all this is very stressful and I will probably be medicated on election day.
29 posted on 09/20/2012 10:13:30 AM PDT by angcat (ROMNEY/RYAN 2012)
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To: HamiltonJay
I think that they are skewing the polls towards Obama so that his minions do not lose faith in him being rechosen. If the true numbers of Americans who are sick and tired of this fool came out, none of them would show up. I just want a win that is large enough to keep it out of the stinking courts. If it is close, real close, we have another Algore-GW on our hands.
30 posted on 09/20/2012 10:19:38 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Scriptures clearly tell us we are in the last days, the end times. Christ is the only answer!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he is right then all this Dem kabuki theater going on in the polls is all about maximizing post-election turmoil and outrage, and making it difficult for Romney to actually govern.


31 posted on 09/20/2012 10:23:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: colorado tanker; USS Alaska
I wasn't old enough to vote yet in 1980 but I sure was aware of the election. At church camp that summer the counselor had solemnly warned us that if Reagan was elected we would not live to graduate high school. The Sunday before, the pastor had openly endorsed Carter after telling us that Reagan could "postpone the Second Coming indefinitely" by defeating "Gog and Magog" (which in that church were believed to be the USSR and China) before they could invade Israel. Of course, the press was walloping us every day with Reagan=bad, Carter=good rhetoric. But my dad and I were rooting for Reagan. I recall that I was building a model of the U.S.S. Missouri when the newsers unexpectedly called it for Reagan. I don't think it was even 8:00 yet.

The only sad person in the house was my granddad, an old union man who thought every Democrat was JFK (he'd have dropped dead if he'd lived to see Zero; he was an unrepentant segregationist). But he celebrated with us anyway. Those were good times!

32 posted on 09/20/2012 10:24:34 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
These videos tie it all up and watching them will make you want Obama gone. It is time for him to go.

A Muslim In The White House - Proof Barack Hussein Obama Is A Secret Muslim

"Words Matter" Obama Lies Documented (in his own words)

Recording raising questions about Obama's vision for America

Ezra Levant: The Post-American President

Glenn Beck: Predictions Come True

Megyn Kelly with Col. Ralph Peters: DHS report warned of violence at US Embassy in Cairo

Bill Whittle: Trifecta: The End Of America As We Know It

Ezra Levant: Watching The UN

Neil Cavuto: Liberal Media In Full Advertising Mode for Obama Reelection

Tucker Carlson: Holder Teams with Media Matters

33 posted on 09/20/2012 10:27:05 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Captain Peter Blood


34 posted on 09/20/2012 10:33:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love those. I may take to putting them around myself!


35 posted on 09/20/2012 10:37:15 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I don’t think we need to make voters think Romney is Nixon.


36 posted on 09/20/2012 10:46:47 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: verga

Prominent Members of Chicago Black Community: Those closest to Obama know there’s no 2nd term
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2931779/posts


37 posted on 09/20/2012 10:51:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Out here in California you don’t see very many Obama bumber stickers, in 2008 they were everywhere.

In California.


38 posted on 09/20/2012 11:01:39 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: RetiredArmy

I think they are skewing the polls too. If they are willing to fake the unemployment numbers for him then fudging the polls would be no problem. And if the polls are off by as much as the unemployment.....


39 posted on 09/20/2012 11:04:49 AM PDT by albionin
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To: albie
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The very worst thing that could happen to Myth Romney's 2012 Presidential Campaign is that ...

President Barrack Hussein Obama becomes convinced that Myth will LIKELY win in November ...

Why ?

Well ... they don't call Chicago the U.S. headquarters for "gangsta politics" for nothing ...




I guess the FreeRepublic "Myth-Botts" must be amazed at this post ...

I haven't mentioned once that Myth Romney ... from the "Severely Conservative" Mormon Planet Kolob in the Constellation Cancer ...

Myth ... who admires Joseph Smith ... Smith who declared himself the "Second Mohammed" whose mission was to VIOLENTLY DESTROY the American Evangelical Christian Church ...

And for who MOST Southern Baptists are RATIONALIZING their "Spiritual Blasphemy" in supporting Myth ...

by voting for Myth Romney ... a false-bishop of a false-cult-religion (Mormonism) who claims to someday be EQUAL or BETTER than Jesus Christ ...




Shucks !

Well ... nobody's perfect ... of course, my spelling "is" getting better ...



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40 posted on 09/20/2012 11:18:53 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Mitt is going to win bigger than most people think.


41 posted on 09/20/2012 12:00:58 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: melancholy

No Perot ran in both 1992 and 1996

Details here. Perot drew in 8+ million votes in 1996

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1996


42 posted on 09/20/2012 12:29:31 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: jboot

Mondale made a laugh line out of asking rhetorically if his audience could imagine waking up the day after the election to a President Ronald Reagan, but the laugh was on him. A lot of people could imagine that, they just weren’t telling the pollsters.


43 posted on 09/20/2012 12:35:09 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: albionin

As the old story goes, if their lips are moving, they are lying. I don’t believe ANY of them, from either party. I will not stake or risk my life on anything one of them mutters. I do not TRUST ANYONE inside that beltway. NONE! I have faith in my God and in my family. That is it. Cause when it comes down to push or shove, people will normally go with their own. So, in the end, what human could you trust? Not very many in my humble opinion. I trust Christ. I know He will deliver. But, I NEVER trust any politicians.


44 posted on 09/20/2012 3:48:58 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Scriptures clearly tell us we are in the last days, the end times. Christ is the only answer!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course, Romney will win. Al the polls except Rasmussen are delusional.


45 posted on 09/20/2012 9:13:05 PM PDT by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (Time to Reload)
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To: SarahPalinForPresident2012; All

Absolutely!!

Today, Rove had his white board which showed the new CBS poll had added 13% more dems .. and when Rove explained why that wouldn’t work in THIS election, it was obvious the dems are up to their old tricks.

Remember in 2004, the oversampling of dems got as high as 16-18% in their polls and then the dems couldn’t believe they didn’t win the election.

REMEMBER TOO: All this false polling is just to DEPRESS OUR VOTE - and make us think it’s over and Romney can’t win. We must encourage our family and friends not to fall for this stunt. It was the same when Reagan won .. they showed Reagan with 39% and Carter with 47% (I think), and then Reagan won by a landslide.

Also .. this constant lying by the WH over the last few days regarding what really happened at the Libian Consulate will show in the polls very soon.


46 posted on 09/20/2012 9:54:18 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Dittos!!


47 posted on 09/20/2012 9:58:17 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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