Posted on 06/02/2012 9:47:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
“Mitt Romney will be the next Ronald Reagan.”
Meth is really messing you up...you need to quit. About the only thing they have in common is their last name starts with R.
Really, I can not afford to vomit any more today.
Do you actually know anything about California when Reagan was elected?
It was in 1967 that the California legislature passed The Therapeutic Abortion Act, Health and Safety Code. Governor Reagan signed it.
It was “sold” as a compassionate law that would be used to deal with the “hard cases.” This statute allowed the termination of pregnancy by a physician, in an accredited hospital, when there was a specific finding that there was a substantial risk that its continuation would “gravely impair the physical or mental health of the mother,” or when the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest. However, the law did provide that no termination of pregnancy could be approved after the 20th week of pregnancy.
Ronald Reagan did not write that legislation. It was sold to him as compassionate, and he signed it.
Reagan never provided for free or low cost - no questions asked - abortions.
There were 518 legal abortions in California in 1967. That number would soar to an annual average of 100,000 for the remaining years of Reagan’s two terms. The murder of 100,000 each year. Are you really going to try to defend that? Reagan was a great man but he made mistakes.
Your premise is flawed, and bent to represent Reagan as something he was not.
Reagan signed the bill as I stated and was mortified by the unintended consequences and became fierce supporter of the pro-life cause.
Unlike your candidate (Romney) who has always been pro-choice until a day or so ago, as demonstrated by his entire life and providing for free and low cost, no questions asked, abortions as governor.
Are you really going to continue to defend that?
I guess you skipped post 47 and didn’t retain post 41.
Governor Reagan was known has a hard right, radical right Governor, and was treated that way by the California press and the national press, Romney has never been known as a conservative, ever.
Reagan was genetically conservative, it showed in his youth, young adulthood, his military service, and his entry into political union leadership during the 1940s and his emergence onto the electoral political scene in 1952 forward.
Romney is the exact opposite, born liberal, raised liberal, lived liberal, politically liberal, he is genetically liberal and only rewrote his platform to run for president as a 60 year old politician.
Romney is known for liberal leadership on the national issues, he has merely done a political 180 for this single office. There has never been a republican this liberal in this position, this is history making.
Romney didn’t make a rookies mistake, he sold abortion and liberalism for 60 years.
Romney was doing all this after the 1960s, Vietnam, LBJ, the great society, Roe v Wade, Carter, the Reagan Revolution, the Cold War, the abortion wars, he was voting against Reagan, voting democrat in 1992, and fund raising for Planned parenthood, Romney was passionately promoting abortion and radical homosexual politics when George W was running for reelection and Romney was almost 60.
Reagan realized that abortion was disgusting and barbaric.
I think Romney can do the same.
I understand that you hope that Romney would change, it is not going to happen. Romney’s core is liberalism, his religion supports his beliefs, his entire life supports liberalism, there is zero reason for him to change into what you are projecting on him.
Conservatism is at the core of conservatives, that is not nor has it ever been Romney’s core.
It's funny that we are supposed to shout from the rooftops Romney's liberal record as governor of Massachusetts while conveniently ignoring Reagan's. Romney is accused of being pro-abortion. Reagan's signature legalized abortion in California long before Roe v. Wade legalized it in the rest of the country. Romney is accused of being the father of gay marriage. Reagan signed into law the nation's first "no-fault divorce" legislation, --a tool that has destroyed more families than gay marriage could ever hope to accomplish.
Yet Reagan went on to become as President the standard-bearer of conservatism. You suggest possibly Romney could do the same and people here scream preposterous!
I'm disliking Romney less and less watching him take the fight to Obama and "get in their faces". I have a good feeling that I'm going to find myself pleasantly surprised by Romney's presidency.
THANK YOU
It’s great to see some sanity. Reagan was a Democrat until 1962 and campaigned for Harry Truman. Things change and people change.
Reagan didn’t need to realize that, he was never pro-abortion.
Romney is the most passionate salesman of abortion that we have ever seen from the republican party, watch the videos, he is convincing as he speaks of the family friend and how he and his family became pro-abortion in 1963 because not having legal abortion killed their young loved one.
Romney campaigned with that story, he campaigned on claiming that his mother was a hero for having the courage to run on an abortion platform in 1970, Romney was radically pro-abortion, AFTER the abortion wars started, AFTER the lines were clear, AFTER it became the political issue of our time,
AFTER he left the party because of Reagan and social conservatism, he was fund raising for abortion AFTER reregistering republican, he was creating $50 tax payer funded abortion AFTER becoming a republican governor in 2002, Romney was still defending abortion AFTER he claims to have switched in 2005.
You have to try to grasp that it matters when these things took place, comparing a political slip of the 1960s when abortion discussions were in their infancy, with being a post Roe v Wade pro-abortion WARRIOR of today, of the decades following 1973, when abortion is the dividing line between right and left, is ridiculous.
Romney can’t change his personal beliefs, because he DIDN’T, there was never a journey, decades of growing, a gradual enlightenment that comes from growth, for 60 years he was one guy, and then POOF!! He was a totally different guy!! the only change you hear is the campaign rhetoric of his Presidential run, that’s it!
There was never a change inside of Mitt Romney, in 2005, after getting permission to run for president from his Prophet, he rewrote his position papers merely to run for office, it was a mere campaign gimmick, not actual growth, or a fundamental change.
And it sure wasn’t only about abortion, he reversed his positions on EVERYTHING, guns, gays, judges, immigration, the Vietnam War, Reagan, abortion, Romneycare, taxes, conservatism, and much more, everything, even his personal details and past.
Do you really think that a 60 year old man who was weaned on liberal politics from birth, who was raised by a Governor presidential candidate dad, and a Senate candidate mom, suddenly had a total political epiphany on all political issues and questions and suddenly changed all of his politics and suddenly was in contradiction with ALL of his past decisions, positions and beliefs and passions?
You show as much dishonesty as I have seen for awhile when you say that people “claim” Mitt Romney was pro-abortion.
You know very well that he was dedicated to and, passionately pro-abortion for his entire adult life, and an aggressive salesman for it.
Nobody could look into that camera and speak on the importance of abortion like Mitt could.
For a brand new freeper, you sure seem like a liberal troll.
You compare being a democrat in the 1940s to being anti-Reagan in the 1980s, fund raising for and voting democrat in the 1990s, being liberal in the 2000s?
Reagan?
You mean 8 years of military service 1937 enlistee, Captain Reagan, who by the second half of the 1940s was already starting to be seen as a communist fighting conservative, testifying to Congress and naming names, working with the FBI, having to carry a gun for self defense from the left, Reagan?
The last time Reagan voted Dem for President was 1948, for Romney it was 1992, By 1952 Reagan was campaigning for Republicans as a “Democrat for Eisenhower”, he kept using that anti-liberal, conservative campaigning slogan until 1962.
In 1952 Reagan was campaigning for Republicans like Eisenhower, who he campaigned for again in 1956, and then campaigned for Nixon against JFK in 1960, already having earned a reputation as an active speaker for conservatism for years.
The already famously conservative Reagan who formally registered Republican in 1962 and spoke at the Goldwater convention in 1964 (the one Mitt and dad George protested)?
HEY N00bie !!!
The only way Willard will even be like President Ronald Reagan is to be dead like him...
So since Willard is 65, in the next decade or 2 he should achieve your goal...
Plus, my keyboard is now like Ronald Reagan...
Despite the attrition over the last couple of months, there's still some sanity left here.
Welcome to FR and please disregard all the "N00B" posts. There remains a small but very vocal contingent of so-called Freepers who cannot come to grips with the fact that Mitt Romney is the Republican nominee. These individuals, and you'll come to recognize them, are so unhinged over the prospect of a Mormon in the White House that they're all but supporting Barack Obama. It's sad and disgraceful.
Anyhow, keep your chin up and we'll get the Marxist removed! And, who knows... You just might be correct on another "Great Communicator" in the White House!
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