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Rick Santorum is tired of you people wanting the government to leave you alone…
Hot Air ^ | January 19, 2012 | MadisonConservative

Posted on 01/19/2012 9:18:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Ken H

I support the 21st Amendment which affirms the right of local authorities to make these decisions, and contradicts the argument that there exists a fundamental right to possession and smoking of controlled substances.


61 posted on 01/19/2012 10:17:34 PM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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To: Mariner

Mariner likes to argue with himself. Sometimes he wins.


62 posted on 01/19/2012 10:18:23 PM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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To: BenKenobi
And one of the things that the constitution provides to the federal government is the right to regulate the transit of goods across the border.

Governments don't have rights, people do. Governments have POWERS, ceded to them by the people. You are upside down again.

So, if someone makes an Edison light bulb in the state, and sells it in the state, the FedGov has no POWER to say squat about it.

Same with cannibis. Although states do retain the POWER to regulate that traffic.

/johnny

63 posted on 01/19/2012 10:19:05 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BenKenobi

Santorum stated in an interview last week that decisions made in government do have moral and social consequences. The interviewer commented that moral/social and economic issues are intertwined.

While starting with Woodrow Wilson, amped-up by FDR, then kicked into high gear by LBJ’s social engineering, government created the moral decay in inner cities and decimated two-parent families. It cost the taxpayers billions to prop up his failed policies.

Promoting LIFE should be a major platform item in the Republican party. When people have a common respect for life, they have a stake in ensuring the means to protect it and encouraging policies that maintain prosperity.


64 posted on 01/19/2012 10:20:44 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: BenKenobi
Keep banging away there FRiend.

You'll convince another 6 or 8 folks that they don't like you or your kind.

65 posted on 01/19/2012 10:21:22 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: JRandomFreeper
And if 10 basic rules were good enough for Him, they should be good enough for Congress. 100,000 pages+ of laws?

Post of the Day. Week. Month. Year so far. (And I'm an atheist!)

66 posted on 01/19/2012 10:21:24 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ( It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.--C.S. Lewis)
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To: BenKenobi

And that’s right where you are the supporter of a police state to enforce your moral absolutes.


67 posted on 01/19/2012 10:21:43 PM PST by AnTiw1
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Bullcrap. Look at Franklin, who screwed anything with a heartbeat, or Jefferson, who was a Deist.”

Yes, they were religious men.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their CREATOR, certain rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

So, yes, your rights do not come from you. They come from God.

“I do have control of my actions.”

Uh huh. I see. So where do rights come from? Do they come from you?

“God will decide in the end, but I get to choose. And that, God gave me.”

Indeed, but you have to sacrifice autonomy in order to be with him. As Paul says, “you are not your own, you were bought for a price”.

“And if 10 basic rules were good enough for Him”

So what’s the first one?

“I am the Lord your God - you shall have no other God’s before me.”

Does that sound like it AFFIRMs autonomy, or is it saying, hey, You are Mine.


68 posted on 01/19/2012 10:21:52 PM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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To: Mariner

The abortion issue is a federal issue. It derives this status from the Declaration of Independence where life is listed as being the first of the unalienable rights. If abortion was merely a states issue, it would be possible for it to be legal in one or more of the states. Since the right to life is an unalienable right, it is not possible for state legislators or voters to confer these rights, or to deny them.

The Declaration and the Constitution are taken together as being our founding documents. Upon them, all else rests.


69 posted on 01/19/2012 10:22:35 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: AnTiw1

I’m a supporter of the constitution. I actually read the darn thing.

If you want to make it so that the community cannot regulate these things, then go ahead, and repeal the 21st. Because it’s right there.

That’s your right as a citizen of the United States, and that is the procedure to change the Constitution. Or you can ignore it like a certain occupant in the White House.

Your choice.


70 posted on 01/19/2012 10:23:48 PM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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To: Mariner
Count me in that number.

I've seen smarter goats, drunk on fermented mulberries.

Wisdom is not found there, but fervor, there is aplenty.

/johnny

71 posted on 01/19/2012 10:24:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BenKenobi
Correct, but my question concerned the power of Congress to override the Tenth Amendment via the Commerce Clause.

Should a state have authority under the Tenth Amendment to legalize the use and sale of pot, in your opinion?

73 posted on 01/19/2012 10:26:04 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Mariner

Truth > Popularity.


74 posted on 01/19/2012 10:26:04 PM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Read the constitution. Yes, the constitution, grants certain rights to the government.

Among these rights are the right to regulate the transit of goods across the border. It also grants the state the right to form an assembly, explains how the people are to be represented, that elections are to be held every 4 years, etc.

It’s all there. One of the rights that the CONSTITUTION grants the government is the right to enforce tariffs on goods that enter the nation.

Go read it yourself.


75 posted on 01/19/2012 10:28:16 PM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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To: BenKenobi
the community cannot regulate these things

The power you seek to regulate 'these things' remains with the States, under the Constitution.

But they DON'T fall within the pervue of the Feral Gooberment.

They can't keep their web-sites up after pissing off the internet, and you want them regulating morality?

/johnny

76 posted on 01/19/2012 10:28:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Mariner

And you are saying that the 21st Amendment apparently was repealed.


77 posted on 01/19/2012 10:29:09 PM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Did you not listen to the debate tonight? On healthcare, Santorum said that Obamacare should be expunged, and that the federal government had no place in enacting a health care plan. Meanwhile, Newt Gingrich said that he would replace Obamacare with his own version of Obamacare. Now, you tell me which one is for big government.


78 posted on 01/19/2012 10:29:32 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: BenKenobi
There is no Constitutional right to bear arms. It is a right "endowed by our Creator." The Constitution doesn't give any rights at all it only defines the protection of them.

What is the difference between "personal autonomy" and "free will?"

79 posted on 01/19/2012 10:30:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
"The Declaration and the Constitution are taken together as being our founding documents. Upon them, all else rests."

I've heard him speak to this on numerous occasions. He says the Declaration of Independence answers the "why" question and the Consitution answers the "how" to accomplish what was laid out in the Declaration. Without BOTH, the meaning gets lost.

80 posted on 01/19/2012 10:31:24 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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