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Vanity: My response to call from the RNC

Posted on 06/09/2009 7:48:31 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin

Vanity (?) This evening my wife answered the phone and told me it was the Republican Committee - for me. When i picked up I stated that I was not given any money because I thougth McCain was a travesty and that the way the Committee has been treating [Governor] Palin was an abomination.

The nice, polite fellow who called was obviously taken aback and responded with words to the effect of "OK, well thank you for your time".

I was a bit surprised that he did not have a response to my disgust with the party. I only wish I had thought to tell him I will contribute again when the party returns to conservative, Reagan-like principles.

I hope they get the message.


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1 posted on 06/09/2009 7:48:32 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin
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To: John Galt's cousin

You see, when you said that about Gov. Palin and McCain, you were one of THEM.


2 posted on 06/09/2009 7:50:16 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: John Galt's cousin

I wonder who they hire to do those calls.

Someone that doesn’t really care what you think and
get paid by the call, I bet.


3 posted on 06/09/2009 7:51:33 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: John Galt's cousin

Last time they called me asking for money, I reamed them out about not being conservative (this was way before the election when they thought they had to beat Hillary.) They have not called me since!


4 posted on 06/09/2009 7:52:34 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: John Galt's cousin

Let’s hope they have the smarts to tabulate responses like yours and use that in setting direction.

I won’t hold my breath, though. “Smarts” isn’t a term I’d use to describe their decision-making process.


5 posted on 06/09/2009 7:52:46 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Feel free to deliver your message to the RNC in DC direct at:

202-863-8500

I called on Monday and gave them my thoughts on their lack of spine and gonads.


6 posted on 06/09/2009 7:53:31 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: John Galt's cousin

You would have confused your interlocutor with vocabulary-builders, like the word “principles”.


7 posted on 06/09/2009 7:53:44 PM PDT by oblomov (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - Mencken)
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To: John Galt's cousin

What did the caller ID say when they called?


8 posted on 06/09/2009 7:55:55 PM PDT by lormand (Austin - Texas lil' piece of California)
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To: John Galt's cousin

Good for you, well said. And those weasels need to hear it over and over and over.


9 posted on 06/09/2009 7:56:15 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Hi ExT

Thanks, I will.


10 posted on 06/09/2009 7:56:33 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: John Galt's cousin

The people doing the calls are either employees or volunteers. They are NOT debaters or advocates.


11 posted on 06/09/2009 7:57:58 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: John Galt's cousin

It’s just a phone bank employee you speak to, they probably tabulate that you declined funding Republicans...no specifics.

So, Republicans move more left.

With the Senate soon to have 60 Commies....you will see Cap and Trade, and Universal Health Care.


12 posted on 06/09/2009 7:59:32 PM PDT by roses of sharon (We must get a grip on what we can, and hold on. Hold on with energy, imagination, and ferocity)
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To: John Galt's cousin

I agree. The way they are treating Governor Palin is a Travesty. No money to the RNC for me.


13 posted on 06/09/2009 7:59:36 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: John Galt's cousin

It most likely was a paid telemarketer who has no connection whatsoever to the RNC.


14 posted on 06/09/2009 7:59:51 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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To: John Galt's cousin
You must've been talking to a trainee.

Whenever they call me, no matter how much I express my disgust with the Republican Party, they always come back with, "Well, Mr. (Eagle), I certainly understand that a thousand dollars is a lot of money. Perhaps a contribution of 500 dollars would..."

And then I hang up.

15 posted on 06/09/2009 8:00:36 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: John Galt's cousin

I have never given to the RNC. If there is a drastic situation, I have occasionally given a few bucks to the NRA-PVF and NRA-ILA. After that, I just vote my conscience.

You know, Rush has said on his radio program, that he never gives money to political parties, and if anybody can afford to, it is he.


16 posted on 06/09/2009 8:01:43 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: John Galt's cousin
I got one of these calls yesterday.

I told the guy despite my rather extensive work and contributions for the GOP in the past, they wouldn't see a single dime of my money and that he was completely wasting his time.

17 posted on 06/09/2009 8:04:22 PM PDT by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: John Galt's cousin
The callers are actually hired and are not working directly for the RNC. I told them essentially the same thing.

They told me that I had contributed to the McCain campaign... I told them I actually donated to Gov. Palin. I've have little use for McCain.

They had better start listening or we are doomed to Obama and friends.

Stay in there Sarah, I'm counting on you.

18 posted on 06/09/2009 8:04:41 PM PDT by Dream Warrior (IN GOD WE TRUST - Never call retreat!)
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To: John Galt's cousin

I told the caller something similar - like fight the dims, don’t be dim-lite.


19 posted on 06/09/2009 8:06:46 PM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second)
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To: John Galt's cousin
I was a bit surprised that he did not have a response to my disgust with the party.

You were called by a telemarketing firm contracted by the RNC. You cannot expect those people to have any knowledge or responsibility.

20 posted on 06/09/2009 8:13:22 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: John Galt's cousin
Republicans are a lot more fun to argue with than Democrats. Democrats, when confronted with their hypocrisy, will call you a racist, sexist, bigot, etc. A Republican, when confronted with their hypocrisy, will attempt to construct some sort of logical framework for it. That is just fun to watch.
21 posted on 06/09/2009 8:16:20 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: John Galt's cousin

My mom used to do this all the time. She would tell them that when the Republican party started representing conservative family values she would begin contributing again.


22 posted on 06/09/2009 8:28:59 PM PDT by ninergold3 ("Has it ever occurred to you that nothing occurs to God?" -Mark Lowry)
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To: John Galt's cousin
I hear ya. This is what I sent back to McCain in May 2008 (obviously before Palin).

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23 posted on 06/09/2009 8:30:20 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: John Galt's cousin
Unfortunately the person with whom you spoke was not the RNC nor the leaders of the GOP. He was an employee of a company that is hired to make fundraising calls.

He may or may not even be a Republican but certainly no one in leadership. Probably just a college kid trying to earn some bucks to continue his education (maybe even an Obama voter to boot!)

24 posted on 06/09/2009 8:36:02 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Vaquero

I give as much as I can each cycle to individual candidates fighting the conservative fight.


25 posted on 06/09/2009 9:00:03 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: John Galt's cousin

Today I got the RNC 2009 census survey. Oh please, yet another ploy to get money. I knew it would arrive, as I was warned by a Freeper vanity last week.

I have printed out a page of Monopoly money and at the bottom of the page wrote “Here’s the deal, you give me real conservative candidates to vote for, and then I’ll send you real money.”

Postage paid envelope provided by the RNC.


26 posted on 06/09/2009 9:14:08 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
I wonder who they hire to do those calls. Someone that doesn’t really care what you think and get paid by the call, I bet.

No matter. If half their calls end in "F*ck you, I'm giving my money to Sarah", the message will be received loud and clear by those who need to know.

27 posted on 06/09/2009 9:15:58 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: TheConservativeParty
I have printed out a page of Monopoly money and at the bottom of the page wrote “Here’s the deal, you give me real conservative candidates to vote for, and then I’ll send you real money.”

Ooh, very good. Mind if I steal it?

28 posted on 06/09/2009 10:34:17 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: TheConservativeParty

I have printed out a page of Monopoly money and at the bottom of the page wrote “Here’s the deal, you give me real conservative candidates to vote for, and then I’ll send you real money.”

Priceless


29 posted on 06/09/2009 11:56:53 PM PDT by Bestwins
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To: John Galt's cousin

>> he did not have a response to my disgust with the party.

That’s not good.


30 posted on 06/10/2009 12:01:51 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: liberty or death

I give as much as I can each cycle to individual candidates fighting the conservative fight.

I suppose that is a needed thing. I was brought up to be conservative, vote conservative, put generally I was taught that 99% of all politicians are self serving SOB’s only out for themselves and being on a fixed income, I pretty much don’t give to any of them.


31 posted on 06/10/2009 4:12:57 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: liberty or death
Whoops...fergot the quotations I give as much as I can each cycle to individual candidates fighting the conservative fight.

I suppose that is a needed thing. I was brought up to be conservative, vote conservative, put generally I was taught that 99% of all politicians are self serving SOB’s only out for themselves and being on a fixed income, I pretty much don't give to any of them.

32 posted on 06/10/2009 4:15:13 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

re: “I wonder who they hire to do those calls.

Someone that doesn’t really care what you think and
get paid by the call, I bet.”

No, I was actually pleasantly surprised. he actually seemed to understans what I was saying, and , perhaps, why I was saying it.


33 posted on 06/10/2009 7:47:39 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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To: aberaussie

;-)


34 posted on 06/10/2009 7:49:53 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Let’s hope they have the smarts to tabulate responses like yours and use that in setting direction.

..and hopefully listen to all of us. if not, we will have to figure out a way to get ourselves back on a track consistent with the Constitution

35 posted on 06/10/2009 7:58:36 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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To: oblomov

Re: “You would have confused your interlocutor with vocabulary-builders, like the word “principles”.”

My thesaurus was not handy. Can I borrow yours?


36 posted on 06/10/2009 8:02:09 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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To: Dream Warrior

RE:
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“They told me that I had contributed to the McCain campaign... I told them I actually donated to Gov. Palin. I’ve have little use for McCain.

They had better start listening or we are doomed to Obama and friends”

Exactly!


37 posted on 06/10/2009 8:07:20 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot

I like it.

They just don’t get it, although most benfited fro Reagan and from Gingrich.


38 posted on 06/10/2009 8:10:22 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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To: zerosix
You are probably right, but it was satisfying to vent a bit.
39 posted on 06/10/2009 8:11:56 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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To: John Galt's cousin

I totally agree and as a former RNC county officer, I gave the callers from the house and senate reelection fundraisers the same pitch, very politely, explaining that I knew that they were only doing the job the RNC paid them to do but to mark me down as “a Republican who’s not willing to give money to RINOs, nor did I appreciate Mel Martinez cozying up to Hispanics over the illegal aliens, while both Bush and McLame were in total agreement.”


40 posted on 06/10/2009 8:15:12 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: TheConservativeParty

RE:”Today I got the RNC 2009 census survey. Oh please, yet another ploy to get money. I knew it would arrive, as I was warned by a Freeper vanity last week.

I have printed out a page of Monopoly money and at the bottom of the page wrote “Here’s the deal, you give me real conservative candidates to vote for, and then I’ll send you real money.”

Postage paid envelope provided by the RNC”

Brilliant! I am going to steal your idea. It seems I get ‘important’ mail every day. I had been tossing it. Now i will send back responses courtesy of TCP!

thanks


41 posted on 06/10/2009 8:16:03 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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To: Born Conservative

It most likely was a paid telemarketer who has no connection whatsoever to the RNC.
_________________________________________

Have to disagree with you on this. It’s more likely a phone bank volunteer.

Having worked once upon a time for a fund raising telemarketing firm, it goes something like this.

The callers are briefly trained on a script that proceeds step by step on a response tree.

1. Hello-intro purpose of call

2. First refusal, something on the lines of “I’m not interested” proceed to scriped response.

3. If interested caller reads script that says somehing like, “Great, Can I put you down for $100? If yes script says to ask for credit card number, if no then verify address for pledge.

4. If yes to donate but no to #100 then ask 50, 25 (example)

5. Polite refusal or if issue is raised, most well planned scripts have sccripted dialogues in effort to bring the vic, err, donor back to the fold.

The caller gets paid a small hourly cash rate, say $10/hr. Evening shifts run 3 or 4 hours. But there are tiered cash bonuses that can pay far more; most total dollars pledged; most credit card donations which are processed immediately; highest single donation; most calls; and a few other variants. High Refusal to donation ratios mean you don’t work there anymore.

Point being that you are working for cash in hand at the end of the night. It was easy for me to walk out with $200, $300, or more at the end of the 3 hour night because I did my homework on the potential issues and concerns. And this was in the early 1990’s before google. My best sale was $1000 on a cc. putting $200 in my pocket for that one call. And the call mgr had noobs monitor my asks.

Phone back callers are drones usually ill-informed, chatty without purpose and in the end more expensive than a paid fund raising marketing effort.

And yes, if my caller id doesnt’ catch’em, I politely refuse, ask to be taken off their calling and hang up at the end of the sentence. That counts as a refusal, a dead lead. A hangup, your card goes back into the stack if the caller is timid or afraid of losing the job. You then get called again


42 posted on 06/10/2009 8:19:47 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: John Galt's cousin
benfited fro = benefited from
43 posted on 06/10/2009 8:23:28 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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To: Covenantor

I think you are correct. He probably was a committed volunteer.

I intend to continue to politely tell the callers that I will not contribute until I can verbalize what the Republican party stands for.

Many of us like Palin because we know what she stands for. She does not seem to be guided by opinion polls. Hopefully she, or someone like her will be the Republican nominee in 2012. If not, we will be stuck with even more “change”


44 posted on 06/10/2009 8:32:28 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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To: John Galt's cousin

Yeah, I stole the idea from another Freeper last week!

I put the 6 highest denomination Monopoly bills on the scanner long way up and 2 rows of 3, and they printed out great as the top of the page of paper, lots of eye catching color, and there was room for a snotty note at the bottom of the page.

Freep away! The RNC may never wake up but we can try.

Next I start using the other pre-paid envelopes I’ve saved to write “Sarah,Sarah,Sarah” in them and send them to the RNC.


45 posted on 06/10/2009 9:05:47 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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To: lormand
What did the caller ID say when they called?

1800-DEM-LITE

46 posted on 06/10/2009 9:36:36 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante
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To: Vaquero

You live in a free country where anything is possible. Anything! You are on this website because you are a free thinking American. Why would you allow something to “fix” your income? I don’t care if you are blowing through a straw to make your wheelchare move. The fact you are here on Free Republic says something about your American spirit and true character and I cannot believe that you allowed any situation to fix your income.


47 posted on 06/11/2009 12:27:30 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

get old and sick.... and then talk to me.

I have taken care of my future needs, it combines job benefits with my dwindling retirement benefits...
plenty to live on. I can buy extras....toys if you will.

I don’t see any politicians I would wish to give to with the exception of Palin at this time. When things start to gel in 4 years, I will seriously consider giving directly to her, or through the NRA.


48 posted on 06/11/2009 3:32:29 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

I have 3 herniated discs in my neck and arthritis from head to toe. My favorite cartoon is where the frog is choking the stork that tried to swallow him.


49 posted on 06/11/2009 6:17:46 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: TheConservativeParty
I have been getting 3 or 4 pieces of mail and at least one call a week.

Your ideas will be put to good use!

thanks

50 posted on 06/11/2009 10:14:44 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - 2012! Principled conservatism. [Donating $ 20.12/mo. until the Republic is safe again.])
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