I like that flag too.
http://flagspot.net/flags/us-ms-rf.html
Illinois' Flag sucks. It should be a likeness of Al Capone with his hand up lady liberty's skirt or something interesting like that.
Posted on 03/14/2009 1:14:57 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
Republican Carroll Campbell III has begun raising money and testing the waters for a 2010 GOP primary bid to replace U.S. Rep. Henry Brown.
Campbell told The Associated Press Tuesday that he was talking to donors and not ready to formally announce his plans. Campbell said he’s going to see how that goes before deciding on a bid to unseat Brown from his 1st District seat.
He is the son of the late Gov. Carroll Campbell, who is credited with much of the growth of South Carolina’s Republican Party. He held the 4th District U.S. House seat for four terms and won the first of two terms as governor in 1986.
Meanwhile, Paul Thurmond says he’s being encouraged to run, too. Thurmond is the son of the late U.S. Sen. Strom Thurmond.
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I think that Henry Brown should retire. He’s been around for a long time and he nearly lost to a weak opponent in a solidly Republican district last year.
As soon as I read where Campbell III said he would “get along” with the Rino legislature that did it for me. Jenrette should get the seat if Brown hangs it up.
Interesting I thought Carrol Campbell 3 was running for Governor. (I’m thinking AG Henry McMaster is my preferred candidate to succeed Sanford.)
As to Brown his opponent was a liberal lesbian! and he won by 4 points, running behind McLame in his district.
He should’ve won in a blowout.
“Why do you like Henry McMaster?”
McMaster did a good job as SC state party chair.
I’ve got nothing against Barrett.
The important thing is making sure Andre Bauer doesn’t get it, he could lose to the rat. It’s unfortunate Bauer was renominated in 2006.
I think you’re getting Campbell the 3rd confused with Mike Campbell, his brother. I see two of Strom’s sons are potential but undeclared candidates in the 1st and 3rd districts. I don’t know who is the best candidate to succeed Sanford in 2010 (too bad he can’t run for a 3rd term).
A good job as SC party chair doesn't quite do it for me, I can't get over the McCain thing.
He almost lost in 2006 did Bauer. He’d be the weakest candidate the GOP could put up.
“A good job as SC party chair doesn’t quite do it for me, I can’t get over the McCain thing.”
Well backing McCain in the primary is not good but his main opponents Romney and Huckabee weren’t good either.
Sanford backed McCain in 2000 and he turned out well.
Whoops. Brothers ok.
I’m not too hot on any dynasties right now. I hope they aren’t GWBush types.
Had Carroll Campbell not gotten sick, he’d have probably made a fine President.
When would he have run? 2000?
He wasn’t diagnosed until ‘01. He had considered running in ‘96, but the Wiki claim was that he couldn’t overcome fundraising hurdles. I think he would’ve been a far stronger opponent for Bubba that year (and like Sanford, he had both DC and Executive experience, as well as private sector, too). I was a Dole supporter in ‘96, voted for him both in the primary and general (I supported Dole 8 years earlier over GHW Bush, but was too young to cast a vote in ‘88).
I don’t know what his reasons were for not running in ‘00, I may have known at the time, but I can’t recall now. I do know most were expecting him to succeed Thurmond in ‘02, and I believe that was Thurmond’s personal choice. Wiki claims he was going to run for Governor again, but I don’t remember that being the case at all. ‘02 was going to be a crowded field (remember that Sanford was the surprise winner — he managed to upset three statewide officeholders, including my personal preference, the colorful AG Charlie Condon), and I don’t know how many, if any, would’ve deferred to Campbell seeking a return to his old office. But none of that materialized, since when he was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s in ‘01, he completely withdrew from any office considerations and rapidly went downhill before his untimely death in ‘05. Campbell was, without a doubt, probably one of the best Governors in the U.S. in the past 30 years and helped to turn his state from being nearly as Democrat as Arkansas and making it into the heavily GOP state it is today (with Sanford keeping it just as strong, if not stronger — the only weak sister having been David Beasley).
Whichever Republican gets the nomination next year for Governor is going to have some huge shoes to fill succeeding giants like Sanford and Campbell.
What was Beasly’s problem? Was it just the gambling issue that sunk him? I refuse to believe any GOP voters really gave a crap about the Confederate flag as a major issue. Bill Clinton gave that as a reason why Sonny Perdue and Chambliss won in Georgia. I call BS lie.
Beasley had actually been Campbell’s heir apparent, but it wasn’t a good choice. He had been a Democrat as recently as 1991 (I edited the Wiki bio just now, there was a claim he had switched “long before”, which was false), and had actually been the Democrat House Majority Leader from 1987-89.
Basically it was a combo of those issues you cited. The video gambling opposition pissed off a number of pro-gambling Republicans and his flipflopping on the Confederate flag in an attempt to appease both sides just pissed off both. The Kindergarten issue was another. One other issue, not cited, which I chose not to put on the Wiki entry, was brought up by a disgruntled Lexington County GOP Sheriff who announced an independent run but later opted not to go, airing a claim of marital infidelity on Beasley’s part (whether true or not, I don’t know), but you add up all these, and Beasley managed just 45% of the vote, although that was actually 13,000 more votes than he got in ‘94, but that Jim Hodges, who benefitted from Beasley’s foul-ups, got 123,000 more votes than Nick Theodore did.
Of course, we lost AL and the open GA Governorships as well that year, which was a blowback against the GOP in what should’ve been one against Bubba and the rodents. The Democrat wave in SC saw us also lose two other statewide offices (Schools Chief, which we haven’t won back since, and State Treasurer, although the incumbent, Richard Eckstrom, made a comeback in ‘02 and won the Comptroller office), and Fritz Hollings won again despite the fact he was clearly in a weak position (over Bob Inglis). Barone mentioned Campbell considered a run against Hollings (and showed Campbell beating him), but he opted against it (for what reasons, I’m unclear — though had he run and won, it wouldn’t have changed his diagnosis of Alzheimer’s, and he’d have been forced to resign in ‘01 when Hodges was Governor, and so the Dems still probably would’ve ended up with their majority).
Beasley was probably a prime example of a Religious Conservative that lacked some degree of expertise in dealing with other practical/political issues (no wonder he backed Huckster for President), that was also the problem with Fob James in AL. Having a good spiritual grounding is fine, but you’ve got to deal with more earthbound issues like business development & recruitment, taxation, lawmaking, basic party leadership/politicking and various other hot-button issues. I’m surprised Beasley ended up as such a bust, since he had managed to rise to House Leader of his own accord, and Campbell thought so highly of him.
Beasley almost got revenge in ‘04 when he beat DeMint in the first primary for the Senate, but thankfully lost in the runoff.
Why the GOP won in GA in ‘02 had more to do with the liberalism of Max Cleland (who won only narrowly over Guy Millner, who almost unseated Zell Miller in ‘94) and in the case of Roy Barnes, the flag issue played a part, but not the Confederate flag itself, but the hideous redesign of the GA flag, which was widely reviled and compared to a low-rent restaurant placemat (”Denny’s !”). But there was also the problem that the Dems in the state were standing on a deck of cards, holding off a GOP majority for far too long, and it just collapsed in on them.
Perdue got criticism, even on FR, for how he cleaned up Barnes’s mess and had the flag redrawn (it’s a bit better, albeit not spectacular) without allowing the public to vote on a restoration of the 1956-2001 flag with the prominent Confederate design (which was put on there in the first place by Seg Democrats), but the public overwhelmingly approved the redesign and only a small number still wish to see a return to that former flag. Perdue may have been a bit sneaky about it in not letting the public vote on that old flag, but it may have been best to try to put this stuff to rest. Some shouted “heritage !”, but given the state went 90 years without the Confederate Battle Flag on the state flag, it was a bit of a disingenuous or historically ignorant position. If Perdue had allowed a vote on that former flag and it narrowly passed, he’d have been attacked by the national media and other leftist groups for the rest of his time as Governor and it would’ve been a constant distraction.
MS is the last state to boldly have the same Battle Flag emblem on the state flag, and then-Gov. Musgrove had a redesign that he submitted to the public to choose between, but by a fairly sound 2-to-1 margin, they kept the old flag (I kinda liked the redesign). Given that margin, there must’ve been decent minority support by Blacks to keep it, since they make up more than 35% of the population. Although unlike GA, the Battle Flag emblem had been there since 1894.
I like that flag too.
http://flagspot.net/flags/us-ms-rf.html
Illinois' Flag sucks. It should be a likeness of Al Capone with his hand up lady liberty's skirt or something interesting like that.
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