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How much 'faith' do you have in the MSM press' "polls"?

Posted on 06/25/2008 1:12:56 PM PDT by Righting

I see them as a pure propaganda tool, an instrument that helped Obama defeat Clinton, no doubt, I am referring for example to the latest (liberal) LA Times' poll that Obama has a lead over McCain by 15%...


TOPICS: Polls
KEYWORDS: gop; mccain; obama; polls

1 posted on 06/25/2008 1:12:56 PM PDT by Righting
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To: Righting

Pure enemy propaganda....


2 posted on 06/25/2008 1:15:23 PM PDT by homeguard (Frustrated, bitter, gun clinging, bible reading, anti-immigrant, anti-trade, typical white person)
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/24/la-times-poll-obama-49-mccain-37/


3 posted on 06/25/2008 1:16:10 PM PDT by Righting
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To: homeguard

thanks, Let them — at least — know that WE don’t buy it as “facts”.


4 posted on 06/25/2008 1:17:25 PM PDT by Righting
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To: homeguard

Pure enemy propaganda....
.............................

“Pravda” of America.


5 posted on 06/25/2008 1:18:00 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Righting

Poopooganda


6 posted on 06/25/2008 1:19:26 PM PDT by Lexington Green (''Every time a cow farts, another polar bear drowns.'' - John McCain)
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To: Righting

Based on historic results comparing elections to polls, you can take the Margin of Error and multiply it by 5. Polls give you some indication, but their quoted MOE of +/-3% are a total joke. Polls are lucky if they are within 10%.


7 posted on 06/25/2008 1:19:49 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Righting
MSM fills the "news hole" with polls cuase it's cheaper and more effective.

There's only one poll that counts.

8 posted on 06/25/2008 1:20:33 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: homeguard
One interesting aspect of the poll is those interviewed stated Democrats at 39% and Republicans at 22%. The poll had Obama up 12% head to head. If you add Nadar and Barr that put Obama up 15%.. But if you go in with a 17 point lead it is hard to lose.
9 posted on 06/25/2008 1:20:57 PM PDT by 49erss
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To: Righting

About as much faith as I have in the integrity of the vote....slim to none.


10 posted on 06/25/2008 1:23:10 PM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: Righting
Dewey Wins!
11 posted on 06/25/2008 1:23:39 PM PDT by rocksblues (Folks we are in trouble, "Mark Levin" 03/26/08)
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The dying media seem to think they will influence the election outcome with their constant battering of their choices upon the American people.

They may do just that because so many public members actually believe what they read and see and hear through the mouthpiece of the agenda driven press.

Do people actually believe polls?


12 posted on 06/25/2008 1:24:53 PM PDT by imintrouble
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Do people actually believe polls?

Doesn't matter. Remember the hue and cry in 04 when the early exit polls were soooo wrong?

This election, wherever it may be close, will be a bloodbath that will make FL 00 look like a paper cut.

13 posted on 06/25/2008 1:30:35 PM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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Agreed Roccus - I also believe what transpires after the election will be the true bloodbath.

Even if McCain wins - he will be stopped at every door.

Soros will be delighted. He may have brought the nation to its knees.


14 posted on 06/25/2008 1:34:18 PM PDT by imintrouble
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To: imintrouble

Considering the last eight years, McCain being “stopped at every door” may not be a bad thing. Personally, I’d like to see him stopped at the door in the Twin Cities.


15 posted on 06/25/2008 1:38:50 PM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: Righting

My poll “rules”:

1) Polls DO matter. They give an indication, at a particular point in time, of who someone says they will probably vote for.

2) State presidential polls are more important that national presidential polls.

3) Early (June) presidential poll numbers can change a LOT when compared to late (October) presidential poll numbers.

4) You have to ask “what percentage of Democrats vs. Republicans vs. Independents were included in the poll?”

5. Not all polls are equal. Gallup’s late presidential polls have tended to be pretty accurate. (The LA Times, on the other hand, has a generally bad reputation for polling, and for good reason.)


16 posted on 06/25/2008 1:47:30 PM PDT by Califelephant
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To: Righting
Well, lets step through a scenario:

Poll Sample: 25 unemployed at home during daytime.
Poll Question: Based upon Bush's lies, Cheney's ties to Haliburton, CIA Agent Plame's outing, hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi women and children killed, and the unconstitutional Guantanamo, do you feel:
a: Bush is a bad, bad man
b: Bush is a very very bad man, or
c: Bush should be impeached

MSM Headline: "Majority of Americans call for Bush's Impeachment"

17 posted on 06/25/2008 2:18:34 PM PDT by frankenMonkey (101st Airborne Army Dad)
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To: Righting

“How much ‘faith’ do you have in the MSM press’ “polls”?”

I believe most polls that have the race a dead heat are correct. The ones showing a big lead for either candidate at this point are flat out propaganda, especially when they over sample one group in order to get the result that they are looking for.


18 posted on 06/25/2008 2:20:41 PM PDT by Grunthor (States Rights do not trump national security. DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW!)
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To: Righting

How much ‘faith’ do you have in the MSM press’ “polls”?”...

It’s way to early for polls......absolutely a BIG ZERO!


19 posted on 06/25/2008 2:33:45 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Righting
How much 'faith' do you have in the MSM press' "polls"?

Zero.

The same amount I have in anybody's polls.
Polls might be meaningful only among a community of totally ignorant retards.

Just saying.

20 posted on 06/25/2008 3:20:06 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Righting

Polls advanced by the msm cannot be taken seriously. They seek to create what propogandists know as the ‘band wagon effect.’ If the msm can report, day in, day out, that Obama is soaring to the political heights, it is their hope that undecided voters will swing their way and that opposition voters will give up and stay home on election day.


21 posted on 06/25/2008 3:26:09 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Righting

None.


22 posted on 06/25/2008 5:35:12 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Righting

Everyone loves the polls and quote their historical accuracy when they show your candidate way ahead. They’re propaganda, worthless and misleading when they show your candidate behind.


23 posted on 06/25/2008 7:25:41 PM PDT by DaGman
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