Washington State: Out of Step With America (Vanity)

2 Novermber 2004 | Self

[Lexinom]

Ideas for conservative (fiscal AND SOCIAL) slogans for signs/bumper stickers here in the Evergreen State:

[in response to a piece of literature from the Murray campaign stating Nethercutt was "too extreme" for Washington]: Washington: Too extreme for America.

If George Nethercutt is out of step with Washington, is Washington out of step with America?

Think we're overpopulated? You're part of the population...

Washington, the tri-bi*** state. [pending a Rossi loss]

Have you "choiced" your unborn kid today?

[Lexinom]

America showed up for freedom this evening, giving George Bush a resounding 3+ million vote popular victory.

This may be hyperbolic, but having lived here since 1985 I am sick and tired of being represented by extremists. Why should these selfish, earth-worshipping, God-hating heathen creeps dominate the most beautiful place on earth?

Now don't get me wring: I learned from Michael Moore not to spread this kind of vitriol around freely - you only energize the other side. This is just venting among friends... These are just things a red-blooded, meat-eating, God-fearing pro-life American living in Washingtion State might like to say... Are there any others like this in WA state? Do you have ideas how to change the culture here? Frustration of your own to vent? This is the place to do it.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Take heart. Rossi's w/in striking distance and Reichert looks like he's in.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

She's needs a WA ping so we can cheer her up.

[Lexinom]

Yeah anyone needing cheering up, this is a place to do it.

Seriously, we need to change the culture here, somehow. My wife and I WILL make a difference in Skagit County. This frustration has been building like a volcano for years, esp. the pro-abortion crap.

I got to live in my wife's home state of Missouri for a year. Culturally, night and day. People actually care about each other there...

[coincheck]

the problem is the I-5 cooridor(sp) from vancouver to bellingham. large concentration of socialists, er a , liberals especially in the seattle/metro area. thats why a republican has a hard time getting elected and why mc dirtmot and slurry,uh murry keep getting elected.also the reason we have the hugh mess in olympia and the state.

(been living here since 1980 in pierce co, came here from arkansas, hugh difference in how people care for one another,took my wife back last summer, she loved the ozarks!,my old stomping ground on bull sholes lake.

[beachn4fun]

Well this seems the best place to ask this question ......... WTF (excuse my language) is "Workers World", "Socialist Workers Party" and " Socialist Equality" parties that were on the Presidential ballot in Washington State?

[Lexinom]

One of the Initiatives that passed will make it possible for the State to move even further to the left.

Can you foresee a day when a plurality of primary voters in some districts see the Democratic Party as "Right Wing Extremists" and nominate, say, a Socialist Workers Party and a Green?

Now for me the issues that matter most are those involving the sanctity of life and the family. These are penultimate core beliefs, secondary only to belief in God and afterlife. I've heard, and agree with, the notion that we cannot simply legislate morality from the top-down, but must work on changing minds and hearts. I'm struggling with how to best achieve this within the given framework...

[Lexinom]

Thanks for the personal anecdotes. Even within the city of St. Louis proper, one cannot but see the striking cultural difference between the Midwest and the Northwest.

Washington and California are "me" states. This is evident in how we treat strangers and even how we drive! Oregon is not quite as bad - my experience with Oregonians has been they are generally friendly and helpful.

[Vicki]

I was born in this state and have lived here all my life. I love the physical beauty, but sometimes I can hardly stand it here. The socialist/commies of Seattle are ruining this state.

We have to take it back somehow.

[Lexinom]

I know, Vicki. I'm working on some ideas. People like us have been doormats too long.

[WKL815]

I feel your pain here in Silverdale in Kitsap County.

Did you see the Seattle Times letters to the editor? Oh how I laughed!!!! And laughed and laughed.

I'm from Texas and damnit, I'm proud to be able to vote where my vote can turn this state red! We need more conservative transplants. We need to disperse all over the country and make Oregon and California and the Great Lakes States red too. We can do it. We just need to get out the vote.

[Lexinom]

Around here, you can turn people red by expressing your respect and admiration for our President, and for the rule of law.

[Lexinom]

BTW, I'm proud to see my own county (Skagit) went for Bush. From south to north:

Pierce:     Kerry
King:      (you know the answer)
Snohomish:  Kerry
Skagit:     BUSH!!!
Whatcom:    Kerry

That's according to the map on www.newsmax.com. And that's a little something I can be proud of :-)

[elder5]

Clark Co. went for Bush too! And Rossi!

[Lexinom]

South of Thurston, right? I'm trying to remember from last drive to Portland... Cowlitz and Clark...

[elder5]

YUP! Just across the river from the Peoples Republic of Portland.

[Seattle Conservative]

I'm wondering if we don't need to get a new head of the WA state party. I hear Chris Vance is a nice guy, but I think we need more than what he's been able to offer.
In addition, I'm curious how much support we've had from the Nat'l party (maybe they think we're a hopeless cause).
While I'm thrilled our SD friends got rid of Daschle, we need some help here. Most of the state (except the I-5 corridor, and specifically King county, is on the conservative side - certainly eastern WA is). I live on the Issaquah plateau and Rossi has been my state Senator for a while).

[Lexinom]

My father and I attended an automobile show today at Qwest Field. We took the "scenic" route through Seattle on the way home, driving north on city streets between I-5 and Lake Washington.

I lost count of the Kerry-Edwards bumperstickers and signs. I saw ONE W04' sticker, and not a single Bush/Cheney yard sign.

Get of out of Seattle and into Lynnwood/Bothell, and you see it's about 50/50. Seattle is extreme, and unfortunately drags the rest of the state with it...

The best we can do is try to live expemplary lives and show that Republicans are not the evil greedy SOB's in the caricatures of the Left.

[ladyinred]

Washington State is indeed beautiful. It is odd to me that it is so liberal. I spent several months in Kent in the late 60's early 70's and it was totally conservative then. What happened? As a Californian, I was treated like a dog because they felt I would be a crazy liberal. Things have sure changed! :-)

[Libertina]

Let not your heart be troubled. We are still waiting for Rossi results. Also, we workded hard and got a great new AG in Rob McKenna. We just keep working. :)

[Libertina]

Vance has got to go. I suggest Rose Strong.

[Seattle Conservative]

You're quite right about us living exemplary lives and that us Republicans/conservaties are good people.

I live on the Issaquah plateau and haven't seen many yard signs in my neighborhood. It has been interesting driving to/fro work on East Lake Sammaish. There had been a lot of Republican candidates signs out and all of a sudden a couple of weeks ago, there were some K-E's signs, too (but some Bush-Cheney signs as well). I've not seen many bumper stickers in my area, but the ones I have, my best guess is that it has been about 50-50 or 60 (K-E).
I don't get into Seattle much, but my guess is that there were far more Kerry suppoters there (I did wear my B-C pin to a Seahawk game and was prepared for some confrontation, but didn't get any).

[Lexinom]

I don't know much about Ms. Strong. Does she live up to her surname? Will she play hardball with the opposition? What we need is a strong, principled leader with backbone. What we need are more Dave Reickerts to run at the national level.

As far as Seattle, what can we say? The entire state is extreme and out of step because of one city with 550,000 people - 80% of the voting popluation of which re-elected McDermott. The fervor in the city is strong - one could not help to see it, and get caught up in it because of simple population density. The rest of the state has to find a way to get equally fired up. And, we need more of "us".

[Erich4Dubya]

I worked so hard on the Rossi and Bush campaign that I am spent. However, I have to chime in because I think you are only seeing the negative side of things.
Bush did get 46% of the Evergreen State vote and that is not bad considering he is not moderate (Thank God!)
Rossi still might win the battle for Governor.
Our AG is now Republican.
The thing you have to keep in mind is that those Seattle radicals are not a majority. They are just loud.
Let not your heart be troubled: there are some changes to this state coming. The Republicans are getting much more organized! I can see it from here in tiny Bothell.
Take care and please know this: Nethercutt will take out Cantwell next time.

[Lexinom]

Your words are encouraging. Judging by the signs in Bothell (where I presently work), the playing field looks about even: I saw about as many Merril/Freed/Bontrager/Eastman signs as O'Brien/Ericks/etc (not sure who ran against whom.)

That would be humbling if Rossi does indeed come out the winner, and I was quite pleased about McKenna, first by his victory over Mike Vaska and then of course cruising to victory over the abominable Deborah Senn. So I guess that's something to build from.

[WKL815]

I put out Bush/Cheney signs and they were taken within a few days here in Kitsap.

Guess someone out there was very afraid what did happen would and is crying in their latte this week.

[Seattle Conservative]

I posted the following on another thread, but reposting here for my WA friends as the figures may be of interest to you:
You're right about the unfriendly biz environment here - and we have only the Dem stronghold on the Govenor's office for about 20 years and the state legislature to blame (the Seattle City Council and King County Council haven't helped).

Based on figures I've pulled from the WA Sect'y of State's Web site, there are 6,686 precincts in the state of WA and 2,616 of them are in King County (the Seattle Metro area)(which is a little over 39% of the precincts in the State).

If we further look at the counties & precincts that have a negative Bush/Kerry number it breaks down to 12 counties (out of 38 for the state) and 4,581 precincts (out of 6,686) - -996864 votes for K and 700408 for Bush (out of 1,305,868 for K and 1,130,537 for B statewide). Rossi is only about 4K votes behind Gregoire and there are still about 332K votes to be counted (only about 119K are in King County) so we can keep our fingers crossed for him. I was also thrilled about McKenna.

Here is some additional info from my spreadsheet:

County Kerry/Edwards Bush / Cheney
Cowlitz 18856 17470
Grays Harbor 15707 14029
Jefferson 10427 6055
King 498782 264757
Kitsap 53548 48995
Mason 11331 10484
Pacific 5538 4614
Pierce 138119 131548
San Juan 5784 2904
Snohomish 145434 125380
Thurston 57551 44190
Whatcom 35787 29982
Total-above
counties 996864 700408

State Totals 1305868 1130537
-52.81% -45.72%
Diff above/state 309004 430129

[Sixgun Symphony]

The urban areas are liberal, and they have enough population to carry the rest of the state.

I can remember back in the 1980's when much of east king county and south king county were conservative. But urban sprawl has changed the demographics.