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External vs. Internal Polls

Posted on 10/28/2004 7:16:37 PM PDT by Scot1458

Internal vs. exteranl polls


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First time posting here, so please be nice.

With all the talk of internal polls vs. external polls, I must ask. What really is the difference? Why would those who poll for the campaigns actually have a different or more accurate account then say Zogby?

1 posted on 10/28/2004 7:16:37 PM PDT by Scot1458
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To: Scot1458

Internal polls are the real numbers, no spin.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 7:20:23 PM PDT by JonDavid
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To: Scot1458

One word: money. Internal campaign polls not just for horserace but also for turnout. They know what the turnout is going to be, who really is going to vote, and their sample sizes are very large. They are also very expensive. Lots of campaing money is burned in internal polls because they tell you precisely where you need to spend your time and money.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 7:29:58 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Scot1458

Because the market works. Vote BUSH!


4 posted on 10/28/2004 7:31:02 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Breaking News: Al Qaqaa HE blows up Kerry Campaign!)
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To: Scot1458

I have read plenty of posts where people say they were polled by Zogby or Gallup and, apparently, knew the outfit questioning them. If campaigns have better polls, I would think they make frequent phone calls. Has anyone ever been polled by either the Bush/Cheney or Kedwards campaign that you know of?


5 posted on 10/28/2004 7:34:27 PM PDT by Rumierules
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To: Scot1458
internal polls get the truth. external polls make great headlines. tv outlets can create a story with an external poll, appear credible, and they do not have to spend much money. hence they get a story and make a profit. (unless you are cbs -- has anyone seen rather's numbers lately? heheheheheeh)

putting enough real reporters throughout the world to get meaningful news is too costly for tv stations to turn a profit.

6 posted on 10/28/2004 7:39:33 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: Scot1458
I spent six years as a political operative for Willie Brown when he was Speaker of the California Assembly. I am not proud of it. I would have less to atone for had I been a prostitute for Tony Soprano. Nonetheless, this is a subject I am fairly familiar with.

The internal polls measure more than the pure horse race. They test how hard or soft the support is, the specific geographical and demographic nature of the support, the likelihood of voting, etc. Internal polling also has a lot of history in that you can compare what you are getting now against previous races on a precinct by precinct basis. It is very sophisticated, but the info is only slightly better than what the public is getting from the press. There usually aren't any real surprises.

It's like most marketing research in that the candidates spend a whole bunch of cash to verify what they pretty much already know.

In spite of the sophistication of the research, when you are in the trenches during the last few weeks you are always groping around in the dark with one eye open. The info will always be imperfect. If anything, today's campaigns over-rely on research to the detriment of good old fashioned nuts and bolts campaigning.

7 posted on 10/28/2004 7:42:41 PM PDT by massadvj
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To: massadvj

Good comments.

The intuitive campaigners go with their gut feelings. And core values. Reagan had that quality.

I think W has a better feel for what people want to hear. He is just not an impressive speaker, usually. Though he does have his moments.

Kerry seems to run in the back room and check with his pollsters to get talking points [frequently]. So, now matter how well he might say it (and truly, I can't see him as a good speaker either) he comes across as insincere.


8 posted on 10/28/2004 8:03:59 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's.....you weren't really there.)
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To: massadvj

May God have mercy on your soul. That is one evil, bigoted, and terrible person.

P


9 posted on 10/28/2004 9:32:07 PM PDT by papasmurf (G'me 4 more years of floppy ears!!!)
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Is Cheney in Hawaii due to internal polling? What gives? Ah-LOWWWW-ha!


10 posted on 10/29/2004 6:16:54 AM PDT by Mojave Mark
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To: massadvj
My mother thought that OJ Simpson was innocent! However, she thought Willie Brown should get a life sentence in prison.

Your bio sounds like Atlas Shrugged.
11 posted on 10/30/2004 2:09:42 AM PDT by Kay
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