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Hospital Diagnostic Errors Send Nearly 1-In-4 Patients To ICU, Study Finds
Epoch Times ^ | 01/11/2024 | Amie Dahnke

Posted on 01/10/2024 10:54:30 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/10/2024 10:54:30 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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From the article: “...According to the study, “problems related to testing, such as choosing the correct test, ordering the test in a timely fashion, or correctly interpreting the results and problems with assessment, such as recognizing complications or revisiting a different diagnosis, appear to be the most important targets for safety improvement programs.”

The research team noted their study failed to capture the constant pressure on hospital care teams, such as workload and staffing shortages, which likely influence the professional standard of care.....”

I have two comments.

The first is that Artificial Intelligence is being touted as the end all and be all of the future. One of the examples is that AI can more accurately and quickly examine CT & MRI's for underlying medical conditions than most doctors. So AI may help ease some of the testing and diagnosis errors due to under-staffing pressure.

My second comment is that it has long been known in just about every “industry” that a Total Quality Management program reduces errors and improves quality. A very famous TQM example was a dramatic reduction in heart attack deaths after a hospital with a bad track record implemented a TQM program. The doctors and nurses really pushed back, but they didn't want their patients dying on them and once they saw the result they became missionaries.

TQM and the concept of continuous improvement as implemented through objective outcome measurements and Kaizen team process improvement works. It just needs strong leadership to implement. These concepts have been demonstrated to work in the health care field.

2 posted on 01/10/2024 11:38:34 PM PST by Robert357
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I came close to this in 2019. I was admitted to a hospital due to a brain scan. The doctors disagreed on a diagnosis and sent me home after 4 days.

Sending me home was very Providential and saved my life. My wife prayed that they would do this. She was able to take me in to see my primary physician. He recognized my symptoms and called a doctor from Barrows Neurological that he had on speed dial. She gave him some simple tests to perform which validated his assessment. She saw me the next day. I was already going comatose in her office. They took me to St. Joseph’s hospital next to Barrows and operated the next day.

Both the original doctors were wrong. If I had gone comatose in the original hospital, I would have been sent to ICU and would have been dead within the week. My doctor said that these other doctors were just following normal protocols.

My problem was that all of my brain fluid had leaked out of my spine. My brain cavity was filled with blood. Your brain does not float in blood and mine was sitting on bone. Once they located and stopped the leak, the brain fluid replenished and displaced the blood.

It took several months for total rehabilitation. I am an engineer and I currently lead a small team which migrated a mainframe computer system to a Google Cloud instance. So, yes, I am rehabilitated. 😀


3 posted on 01/10/2024 11:47:06 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman

Good story; thanks. Bless you.


4 posted on 01/10/2024 11:48:38 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: SeekAndFind

Most importantly, were the tests and diagnostics billed correctly?


5 posted on 01/10/2024 11:49:25 PM PST by glorgau
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To: SeekAndFind

Its called iatrogenic deaths.

They are far more common than anyone is led to believe. They are often hushed up.

This article confirms whats been said for decades.


6 posted on 01/11/2024 12:51:11 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

it just so happens any stay in ICU will be charged to the insurance company at a much higher rate than a normal room.


7 posted on 01/11/2024 1:01:56 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Epoch Times totally misread the study or are purposely misleading with the headline.

It should read 23% of ICU patients (or who died or both) had a diagnostic error.

There is a difference. The abstract doesn't say but say 250,000 patients had been in the hospital over the time they randomly selected the 2.4k patients who died or were sent to the ICU or both (estimated from the fact that most hospitals have about 10% ICU beds).
That would be 2.3% of patients will experience an error that will put them in the ICU or kill them or both.

8 posted on 01/11/2024 1:04:57 AM PST by stig
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TQM or AI...it still takes smart, committed, kind pros to make those systems work. What can happen is that the folks who work start thinking that TQM or AI is flawless and stop being alert to the imperfections of those initiatives and then mistakes and total BS happens.
Perfect example...we used to have our smart infusion pumps calculate infusion rates of Intravenous solutions...supposed to decrease error rates...right? Soon, the nurses were less proficient at doing the arithmetic...and needed help to calculate a rate when a non standard solution was available. Demanded a new infusion bag with standard concentration.


9 posted on 01/11/2024 1:23:23 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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This is a problem easily solved with more diversity and equity.

EC


10 posted on 01/11/2024 1:28:17 AM PST by Ex-Con777
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To: SeekAndFind

I learned a lot about the medical industrial complex in 2020


11 posted on 01/11/2024 2:51:31 AM PST by SisterK (it's controlled demolition)
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“It should read 23% of ICU patients (or who died or both) had a diagnostic error.”

Thank you. I had a strong sense that the headline had misstated the statistical situation, and I was looking for the part that would explain basically what you just said.


12 posted on 01/11/2024 3:06:30 AM PST by Tax-chick (Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?)
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Study Suggests Medical Errors Now Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S. The Johns Hopkins University, 2016

Errors in Health Care: A Leading Cause of Death and Injury National Academy of Sciences, 2000

Medical error—the third leading cause of death in the US BMJ, 2016

Medical Errors Are No. 3 Cause Of U.S Deaths, Researchers Say NPR, 2016.

And then of course, there is "safe and effective" now joined by "I don't recall."

13 posted on 01/11/2024 3:56:17 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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14 posted on 01/11/2024 4:02:03 AM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Jane Long; ransomnote; SecAmndmt; Jan_Sobieski; Roman_War_Criminal; ...

Last I heard, medical mistakes was one of the leading causes of death in this country.

Best to keep yourself healthy and avoid the current medical establishment as much as possible.


15 posted on 01/11/2024 5:01:58 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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You may be interested in these books, which is on neuroplasticity and includes brain injuries.

The Brain that Changes Itself and The Brain’s Way of Healing, both by Norman Doidge. We initially checked them out of the library and liked them so much that we ordered copies for ourselves.

We’ve learned to check our local library and check books out first. Some recommended books are worth it and others we thought would have been a waste of money.


16 posted on 01/11/2024 5:07:37 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: SeekAndFind

Big Med kills more people annually than cars and firearms.

When do we ban Big Med.


17 posted on 01/11/2024 5:08:54 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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An October 2023 report from Kaufman Hall, a health care consulting firm, confirmed that two-thirds of hospitals across the United States are operating below full capacity due to staffing shortages.


Hmmm, now, just what could be causing these hospital staffing shortages?? 🤔


18 posted on 01/11/2024 5:11:51 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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“Misdiagnosis” in 23% of patients means that ER doctors were able to correctly improve the pre-visit conditions of 77% of arrivals. It’s probable that some of the resulting ICU cases worsened. However, it’s probable that further diagnosis in the ICU improved patient outcomes from how they would have been without the ER visits. ER’s are the final resort for many admittees. It’s supposed to work that way.


19 posted on 01/11/2024 5:41:06 AM PST by nagant
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My recent experience with hospital emergency rooms and ICUs have taught me that the medicos are only interested in getting all your money. To that end they will lie about your condition and intrude upon your family dynamics.
20 posted on 01/11/2024 6:15:55 AM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. )
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