Leading Democrat claims Republicans refuse 'to accept the results of the Civil War'

WND ^ | 11/30/2023 | Bob Unruh

[Squawk 8888]

Thanks for the rest of the story. This is why I like discussion boards becaaue I love haring from people who know stuff that I dont :-)

[Squawk 8888]

Thanks. I know little about that part of US history because there was a lot going on up here. We were dealing with some serious issues about the way Upper Canada was being run.

[DiogenesLamp]

Thanks for the rest of the story. This is why I like discussion boards becaaue I love haring from people who know stuff that I dont :-)

I remember when I was learning about the civil war in junior high, and they got to the part about the South attacking fort Sumter. I asked the teacher why they did it, and his response was "They were just a bunch of hot heads."

That answer never sat well with me.

It was years later when a friend of mine who was a history major told me that Lincoln deliberately provoked them in order to get a war, but it is something i've never seen in any of my history books.

But eventually I uncovered what really happened. Lincoln needed the war, but he wanted to make them look like the bad guys, so he called his fleet a "supply mission" and told everyone he was "just sending bread to Anderson."

And then he would lock up any newspaper people who said otherwise.

[DiogenesLamp]

On a different topic, do you worry about posting or reading a message board that would likely be frowned upon by the Canadian government?

From the things i've been reading coming out of Canada, it feels as if they are moving into "thought police" territory.

England is already there.

[Squawk 8888]

Not really. Don’t believe everything you read; we have a lot of serious issues going on but life is pretty good here overall and the authoriities really don’t care if we gripe, as long as nobody gets violent.

[DiogenesLamp]

The truckers weren’t violent.

[Svartalfiar]

Slavery wasn’t until the 13th Amendment was ratified later on.

Slavery wasn't ended until a decent bit after the 13th.

[Squawk 8888]

You probably know more about USA history than I ever will so I’ll take your word for it, FRiend.

[Svartalfiar]

Maybe.
The 13th freed the last slaves in the northern States (I think Delaware or Vermont, and one or two others), but slaves owned by several of the Tribes were not included in this. So they weren’t freed until treaties later. Off the top of my head I think the Creek were the last ones, a good 6-8 months after the 13th hit.