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Mega-Jolt: The Costs and Logistics of Plugging in EVs Are About to Become Supercharged
Gateway Pundit ^ | Nov. 27, 2023 11:00 am | By John Murawski, Real Clear Wire

Posted on 11/27/2023 9:31:07 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

“EVs will become as convenient as smartphones.”

GREENIES ARE DAMNED IDIOTS!!!

There were no government mandates for smartphones. There were no subsidies for smartphones. People WANTED smartphones. They weren’t forced to buy them by some idiot like AOC. Private companies built the infrastructure for smart phones to support the consumer demand. In other words. Smartphones are a master class of capitalism at work.


81 posted on 11/27/2023 12:59:10 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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To: Red Badger

“Bigger than a Bucee’s?”

I was thinking the same. So take that Buckeye’s with 80 pumps and imagine it being for EVs only. Then take a tiny gas station with 5 pumps. Guess who can service more cars per hour (hint, not the Buckeye’s).


82 posted on 11/27/2023 2:09:15 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: Degaston

“When the wind stops and the sky clouds over or it’s too cold or too hot then lots of people get stranded and can’t get home.”

What happens at that point is that EV Charging Stations will have to THROTTLE DOWN their charge rates, greatly, in order to prevent residential blackouts.

So don’t plan on driving too far for Thanksgiving!


83 posted on 11/27/2023 2:11:06 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: G Larry

“If you’re virtue signaling to the other ignorant leftists and only need a grocery getter, its a fine idea....”

Until there are too many even just for that minimal use.


84 posted on 11/27/2023 3:14:11 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Red Badger
"The 2.4 million chargers would serve only half the registered vehicles in the state. Many more will be necessary to complete the second half of the transition, from 15.5 million EVs to more than 31 million EVs by mid-century. Those chargers will have to be installed at curbsides, parking lots, parking decks, grocery stores, restaurants, convenience stores, big box stores, office buildings, strip malls, shopping centers, movie theaters, and other locations so that drivers always have ready access to plug-in."

I take it these level 2 chargers would be to accommodate apartment dwellers, etc. Who in their right mind would put up with constantly pluging in the car?

85 posted on 11/28/2023 2:11:01 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: bert

“EV’s can be easily charged at home and will be”

Have a look below at California electricity rates. And the state assy have removed incentives to install Solar unless you shell out another 13k or more for battery storage and that is just for one wall of batteries. Most homes from my research will have the recommendation of two walls of battery packs.

The real savings for solar is buying the equipment not leasing. So a typical 2000 sq. ft home installation in my neck of the woods with two walls of batteries will be nearing 45 - 50k. No thanks. A non plug in hybrid is in my future.

As of August 2023, Southern California Edison (SCE) has three residential TOU rate plans in which electricity rates range from 23 cents per kWh during super off-peak windows in the winter to 74 cents per kWh during on-peak windows in the summer.Aug 24, 2023

A car that makes sense mostly during off peak winter days makes no sense. And Edison rates are only going up.


86 posted on 11/28/2023 2:23:19 AM PST by DAC21
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To: Red Badger

“How many EVs would be in the Hood in the first place?....................”

The hood goes wherever they want in the Hyundai / Kia they just hotwired. And as hard as it is to believe there are affluent areas in mostly $hit holes like Oakland, Chicago....


87 posted on 11/28/2023 2:32:14 AM PST by DAC21
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To: EVO X

Who in their right mind would put up with constantly plugging in their telephone???......................


88 posted on 11/28/2023 5:19:04 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Tell It Right

Amortize the cost of the solar into the electricity used, subtracting the subsidies?


89 posted on 11/28/2023 6:09:45 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
Amortize the cost of the solar into the electricity used, subtracting the subsidies?

Solar costs rise to the consumer because of subsidies, like everything else the government "helps" with (like tuition costs rising to take in all the government money for college). So if you ask me to run my numbers without the solar tax credit, do I get to adjust the costs I paid up front accordingly to what they would have been without the tax credit?

If you want real world numbers broken down by costs, here's https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4127577/posts?page=51#51. It's half a year old. To date, my cash flow is in the positive about $2,600 (I would have paid $2,600 more in energy costs without solar and an EV than I've paid out of pocket to set up solar and EV, etc.).

This is not for everybody. One should do his homework to make sure it works well in his area (and do his homework before dissing the idea). But if you take ownership of your energy costs it's quit liberating to have one less thing the Dims control over your finances.

90 posted on 11/28/2023 6:20:25 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Red Badger

I charge mine about once a week and I don’t have to go to the mall to do it 😀


91 posted on 11/28/2023 7:42:34 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: EVO X

I see ‘homeless guys’ (read BUMS) sitting in front of convenience stores that have an outside AC receptacle, with their smartphones (Obama phones) plugged in charging them...............


92 posted on 11/28/2023 7:44:58 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Tell It Right

OK, so to sum up your link, you spent 30K + 50k + 60k = 140K for solar plus EV to save $2600 in the last 2.5 years?


93 posted on 11/28/2023 5:24:50 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal

“OK, so to sum up your link, you spent 30K + 50k + 60k = 140K for solar plus EV to save $2600 in the last 2.5 years?”

Hopefully that is not the case, otherwise that is some major virtue signaling worthy of a DU member or a math retard.


94 posted on 11/28/2023 5:32:06 PM PST by DAC21
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To: hopespringseternal
Not quite. Now that I’m done with my out of pocket expenses, I’m saving $550 to $800 each month from now on (depending on how many miles we drive and how much we run the home AC because of outside temps). Ten years from now, my total savings will be $140 to $150K (assuming a reasonable 3% inflation rate in the energy prices I’m avoiding). All while my budget feels like my energy costs are still back in year 2019. What I take out of my income to pay my HELOC payment plus tiny power bill today is equivalent to what I was paying for energy in year 2019 (larger power bill plus natural gas bill plus lots of gasoline).

That means the $150K I won’t spend on the Dims’ stupid energy costs will stay in my Roth IRA and keep growing tax free. It also removes from my future financial planning most of the uncertainty of future energy costs. What if the Dims make energy costs double over the next few years? Bummer, but it would impact our finances only one fifth as much (the 20% of power I buy from the grid because the other 80% of our energy comes from solar with a fixed cost of the HELOC payment). Bonus points by the fact that as my HELOC balance is paid down, the minimum payment goes down. In other words in future years it costs me less money(lower HELOC payments) to save more money (avoiding energy costs that keep going up). Then the next year it costs even less to save even more, etc. (Although I work it in my budget as though I’m still paying year 2019 energy prices, so I’ll pay extra principal on the HELOC to pay it off early).

In other words, as I plan to fully retire in a few years in my late 50’s, when I think about inflation messing up my retirement, energy costs are something I don’t lose sleep over. This is the main reason for the energy project. I’ve removed most of the Dims’ ability to use their stupid warmageddon cult to mess up my retirement.

What if the Dims require a mark of the beast style social credit score for energy? Bummer again because it would force me to upgrade my solar and backup power even more to go off grid — but at least from this point I wouldn’t be starting from scratch.

95 posted on 11/29/2023 3:37:26 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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