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Hacking the Van Allen Belts: Could we save satellites and astronauts by wiping out the Van Allen belts?
IEEE Spectrum ^ | 02/26/2014 | CHARLES Q. CHOI

Posted on 08/03/2023 6:38:40 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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To: Magnum44

Well said


61 posted on 08/03/2023 8:58:18 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Campion

There is only one problem with the “readings”.

The Belts they allegedly passed through were a lot smaller than we now know to be true.

The fakers did not have the current data.

Oops.

This will stop being a debate and become a real world problem for Elon Musk soon enough—when real astronauts have to pass through real radiation.

Name call all you wish—we will know for certain soon enough.


62 posted on 08/03/2023 8:59:40 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Gematria is the ancient practice of coding numbers into letters - to reveal deeper meanings and connections or associations which are not outwardly apparent. The four base (simplest and most common) Gematria ciphers are: English Ordinal, Reverse Ordinal, Reduction/Pythagorean and Reverse Reduction.

James Webb was a pivotal figure in the early history of NASA.

Webb led NASA from the beginning of the Kennedy administration through the end of the Johnson administration, thus overseeing each of the critical first crewed missions throughout the Mercury and Gemini programs until days before the launch of the first Apollo mission. He also dealt with the Apollo 1 fire.

In 2002, the Next Generation Space Telescope was renamed the James Webb Space Telescope as a tribute to Webb.

On February 14, 1961, Webb accepted President John F. Kennedy's appointment as administrator of NASA, taking the reins from interim director, Deputy Administrator Hugh L. Dryden. Webb directed NASA's undertaking of the goal set by Kennedy of landing an American on the Moon before the end of the 1960s through the Apollo program. For seven years after Kennedy's announcement on May 25, 1961, of the goal of a crewed lunar landing, Webb lobbied for support for NASA in Congress, until he left NASA in October 1968. As a longtime Washington insider and with the backing of President Lyndon B. Johnson, he was able to produce continued support and resources for Apollo.

During Webb's administration, NASA developed from a loose collection of research centers to a coordinated organization. He had a key role in creating the Manned Spacecraft Center, later the Johnson Space Center, in Houston. Despite the pressures to focus on the Apollo program, Webb ensured that NASA carried out a program of planetary exploration with the Mariner and Pioneer space programs. Webb was an early champion of space telescopes, like the one that would later bear his name.

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It is believed by some that IF the moon landing project was faked, Hollywood director Stanley Kubrick had a hand in it.

An acrostic is a poem or other word composition in which the first letter (or syllable, or word) of each new line (or paragraph, or other recurring feature in the text) spells out a word, message or the alphabet.

Kubrick’s movie, The Shining - is believed to contain clues from the director that he was in fact, involved in the Apollo project. There are numerous elements which could indicate this, and a most curious one is a type of acrostic message embedded in a recurring phrase in the movie.

Jack Nicholson’s character is both an alcoholic author with a writer’s block, and a deeply disturbed man. At one point in the movie he repeatedly types the phrase, “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.”

Using an acrostic method for the sentence, “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” - we take the first letters of each word - A w a n p m J a d b. Using the four base (the simplest and most common) Gematria ciphers - these letters match exactly to James E Webb:

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63 posted on 08/03/2023 9:04:35 AM PDT by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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To: cgbg
No amount of evidence will ever convince a true conspiracy theorist they're wrong. No amount. It's completely impossible. Their ego is in love with the idea that they "know the truth" and everyone else is deceived.
64 posted on 08/03/2023 9:05:24 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Well there’s a dumb idea.
A - Van Allen Belts aren’t doing anything bad to satellites
B - They’re kinda nice for life on earth


65 posted on 08/03/2023 9:09:43 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: dangus

Jacob Bortnick, who is quoted in this 2014 story, has continued study on this general topic. https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2020JA028018


66 posted on 08/03/2023 9:34:12 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Yes, and only a blithering idiot subscribes to those notions.

Prove that we didn’t send men to the moon. Definitive proof.


67 posted on 08/03/2023 9:39:15 AM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: NorthMountain

Mars is a deadly fantasy right now due to deadly cosmic rays/radiation.

Considering the utter absence of technological advancement in shielding technology of any type or kind that would constitute a breakthrough, rendering reasonable any near- or medium-term plans for a future manned round-trip mission to Mars, Mars will remain a deadly fantasy for the foreseeable future, not worthy of significant federal government investment or any Kennedy-esque rhetoric on the part of a sitting U.S. President declaring such as a goal or setting any dates for its achievement.

Perhaps Trump has been wise in terms of refocusing NASA on the “stretch” goal of resuming round trip manned missions to the Moon with an eye toward establishing a continuously-manned lunar space station. In One Guy’s opinion, this is similarly impossible based on too-high levels of unshielded cosmic rays/radiation (akin to sending our Astronauts into a continuously operating microwave oven to be effectively cooked (at least in terms of genetic damage, if not also in terms of irreversible damage to flesh, including precious brain tissue), possibly within weeks or at most months after initial liftoff.

Insistent questioning and associated research about the kind and dose size of radiation astronauts can expect to experience during their transit through the Van Allen Belt(s) cannot be dodged. If lunar missions are scrapped on this basis alone that would save the U.S. a hell of a lot of time, money and effort by our best minds who could be better occupied dealing with real problems here on earth.

Oh—and if it turns out LBJ did indeed fake our trips to and onto the moon, it would be good for the U.S. government to admit that.


68 posted on 08/03/2023 10:30:10 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey
Mars is a deadly fantasy right now due to deadly cosmic rays/radiation.

Mars ain't the kind of place to raise a kid. In fact it's cold as hell.

69 posted on 08/03/2023 10:31:42 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: one guy in new jersey
if it turns out LBJ did indeed fake our trips to and onto the moon

Since it has already turned out that Neil Armstrong et al. did indeed walk on the Moon, it would be good for people to quit promoting slander against the tens of thousands of Men who made it happen.

Insistent questioning and associated research about the kind and dose size of radiation astronauts can expect to experience during their transit through the Van Allen Belt(s) cannot be dodged.

Those "questions" have been so thoroughly and repeatedly answered to the effect that yes, we can and HAVE sent astronauts around the Van Allen radiation BELTS (they're called "belts" for a reason), that the "questions" have ceased to be honest inquiry.

dealing with real problems here on earth.

That's what Ralph Abernathy said. His goal was to funnel as much money as possible from productive Men to non-working urban blacks. He succeeded ... that's why Apollo was canceled after 17.

70 posted on 08/03/2023 10:41:52 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Campion

Not really smellin’ what Campion is cookin’, frankly.

Admittedly it could be a personal problem. 🥴


71 posted on 08/03/2023 10:44:20 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey
Oh—and if it turns out LBJ did indeed fake our trips to and onto the moon, it would be good for the U.S. government to admit that.

The first (alleged) lunar landing was in 1969 while Nixon was president.

72 posted on 08/03/2023 10:50:07 AM PDT by woodpusher
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To: NorthMountain

Do we not have real problems here on earth?

Not for nothing, NM, but are you not sliding into a kind of myopathy similar to what Pence revealed to Tucker Carlson when he self-immolated his presidential campaign?


73 posted on 08/03/2023 10:51:00 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: woodpusher

The allegation is that the deceptive video production was stealthily staged and shot on an Air Force Base under the tightest of security and the most limited of access (supposedly fifteen people total, including LBJ and Werner von Braun) during the summer of 1968, nothing being allowed to be left to chance as we were in a cold war.


74 posted on 08/03/2023 10:55:54 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: yelostar
It is believed by some that IF the moon landing project was faked, Hollywood director Stanley Kubrick had a hand in it. Part of the reason for this “conspiracy” theory - might be that Kubrick was familiar to - and had dealings, with NASA.

His movie, 2001 - A Space Odyssey - premiered in Washington, D.C. on April 2, 1968 - less than a year before the moon landing, and was released in the U.S. on April 3. The UK release was May 1. Most of the filming took place in England, at Shepperton Studios.

Kubrick had previous contact with NASA - and on more than one occasion.

The Carl Zeiss Planar 50mm f/0.7 is one of the largest relative aperture (fastest) lenses in the history of photography. The lens was designed and made specifically for the NASA Apollo lunar program to capture the far side of the Moon in 1966. Stanley Kubrick used these lenses when shooting his film Barry Lyndon, which allowed him to shoot scenes lit only by candlelight. In total there were only 10 lenses made. One was kept by Carl Zeiss, six were sold to NASA, and three were sold to Kubrick.

For 2001:

According to biographer Vincent LoBrutto, Universe was a visual inspiration to Kubrick. The 29-minute film, which had also proved popular at NASA for its realistic portrayal of outer space, met "the standard of dynamic visionary realism that he was looking for."

Kubrick hired the company that produced it, Graphic Films Corporation—which had been making films for NASA, the US Air Force, and various aerospace clients—as a design consultant. Graphic Films' Con Pederson, Lester Novros, and background artist Douglas Trumbull airmailed research-based concept sketches and notes covering the mechanics and physics of space travel, and created storyboards for the space flight sequences in 2001. Trumbull became a special effects supervisor on 2001.

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JFK was a pivotal figure in the moon project, since it was his call to action.

JFK's birthday was May 29. He would have turned 52 years old. The moon landing occurred 52 days later on July 20.

BUZZ ALDRIN - reduces to 52 - in the Reduction cipher.

Both JFK and Arthur C. Clarke - the co-author of the screenplay for the film, and an accomplished science fiction author - were born in 1917. Clarke would also turn 52 years old in 1969, in December.

The Reduction cipher - uses single digits only, 1-9.

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75 posted on 08/03/2023 10:59:31 AM PDT by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Gee, what could possibly go wrong?


76 posted on 08/03/2023 11:03:00 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Chesterton’s Fence.

There was a reason that you used to be required to take a couple of humanities classes.

77 posted on 08/03/2023 11:03:27 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

What about the Van Halen Belts?


78 posted on 08/03/2023 11:05:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: yelostar
In his movie The Shining Kubrick clearly references the Apollo 11 mission. There are interpretations of why he did this; of course one is that he was signaling his involvement with a staged event.

An article detailing the interpretation:

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-shining-stanley-kubrick-clues-faked-moon-landings/

May 23, 1980 (United States)
October 2, 1980 (United Kingdom)

At the start of the film, Jack Nicholson’s Jack Torrance meets with the manager of the hotel who is entrusting the protagonist with the building over the winter. Meeting in an ornate office, the room contains several neatly arranged items, including a small American flag on the desk and a statue of an eagle looking over them at the window. Theorists believe this eagle nods to the name of the lunar landing module that allegedly carried Apollo 11 that is also called ‘eagle’.  As in, “The Eagle has landed.”

Famously unhappy with the final film, the author of the original novel, Stephen King, believed that the film was changed too much from the novel, containing little of the same character motivations and heart. 

Just one of these changes was to make the ghostly Grady girl from King’s original book, into twins, with the image of the duo standing at the end of the hotel hall having since become an iconic shot of horror cinema. Conspiracy theorists believe that Kubrick made this change to signify the failed Gemini mission by NASA, with both characters acting as ghostly reminders of wrongdoing. 

Now repurposed as a piece of movie memorabilia to be plastered on the back of wallets and novelty picture frames, the orange and maroon carpet of the Overlook hotel has to be the most iconic furnishings in all of cinema.

A peculiar design that is given a lot of screen time, we see the carpet throughout the film, particularly when we see Danny, Torrance’s son, playing with toys in the corridor. Shot from above to appreciate all its hypnotic glory, the strange pattern looks remarkably similar to the birds-eye-view of the Apollo 11 launchpad, mimicking its sharp edges and unusual shape. 

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By far the most obvious inclusion on this list, in one extended sequence of the film when Danny enters the dreaded room 237, the young boy is seen wearing a knitted jumper that reads ‘Apollo 11, USA’. 

An obvious reference to the famous space flight that took place in 1969, it is certainly a peculiar choice of clothing for Stanley Kubrick to pick. Considering the director’s meticulous control over his film sets, this choice from Kubrick was most definitely made on purpose, which fuels the theories of conspiracy fans who believe this may be the strongest piece of evidence to suggest the director’s involvement. 

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One of the strangest and most unnecessary changes that Stanley Kubrick made from Stephen King’s book was to change the number of the terrifying Room 217 in the novel, to 237 in the film. 

A strange choice that has no impact at all on the film or the story, it is believed by theorists that Stanley Kubrick changed the number to reflect the 237,000 miles that separate Earth from the moon. Entering the room in his neat Apollo 11 jumper, Danny quickly exits covered in mysterious scratches and bruises with his cosmic jumper torn at the shoulder, alluding to the mission itself failing to reach its fateful destination 237,000 miles away. 

79 posted on 08/03/2023 11:17:42 AM PDT by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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To: Campion
We can send instruments that can accurately measure radiation and get actually data, rather than “monkey died,” “monkey threw up and lost hair”, “monkey seems fine but developed leukemia 6 months later”, and other useless datapoints. It’s also a lot cheaper to send the instruments. They don’t need life support.

We did not have the probe or sensor technology in 69. Heck, we just recently discovered ANOTHER BELT using the 2012 Van Allen probes. No way NASA would risk sending men through the belts and 237,000 miles further (previous was supposedly 800 miles) than we’d ever gone before without an expendable crew.
80 posted on 08/03/2023 11:19:16 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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