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Trans man beaten by LA County deputy after giving officer the middle finger: video
NY Post ^ | 07/24/2023 | Marjorie Hernandez

Posted on 07/24/2023 12:46:30 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Someone flips you off and they might be feeling emboldened by intoxication. I wonder if this tranny wasn’t acting a bit aggressive due to testosterone treatments.

I would think that everyone knows about the cameras at a 7-11.

81 posted on 07/24/2023 7:00:21 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: No name given

No job.


82 posted on 07/24/2023 7:27:19 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: LeoTDB69

The cop couldn’t know the person was a f to m trans


83 posted on 07/24/2023 7:31:32 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: Gene Eric

Yeah, that was back in the days when we believed the liars in the various democrat grievance groups. We were so innocent back then... The only folks stupid enough to take those folks at face value today are the bimbos and pretentious ‘men’ of the press. Hello MSNBC...


84 posted on 07/24/2023 8:17:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (The sexual weirdo community ARE the people attacking DeSantis AND sabotaging "Sound of Freedom")
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive; ChicagoConservative27
Sounds like you condone the officer’s obviously illegal conduct. You can’t track down and beat someone because they flip you off. Surprised that has to be pointed out to you.

You opine on this without laying down some background.

If the officer was in pursuit because of disrespectful actions (not just words) of the tranny, for the purpose of fully re-establishing recognition of his (her) authority, it was not unlawful to do so.

When disrespect and undercutting of the command of a situation is signaled by offensive motions, it is within the purview of the enforcer to apprehend and reprimand the offender's defiant attitude. When confronted, it would probably would have been wise to apologize with an attitude of full compliance.

If the offender's own lack of reasonable humility forces him/her to escalate the defiance, most certainly the LEO will ordinarily respond by escalating force until it is obeyed, however unwillingly on the part of the mocker.

I'm surprised that this has to be brought to your attention for meditation.

Some supervisor or judge is going to want to hear the full story before delivering an opinion as to whether the LEO's actions were justified. But lacking the whole story, my bet is for the LEO, not the person signaling oppositional defiance to the law.

Ia am a law-abiding citizen, and in full support of its authority to maintain peace and responsibility for one's actions. The Bible has given me plain, clear, unarguable commands from God regarding such a situation:

1 Peter 2:13-6 (AV):

13Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; 
14Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. 
15For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: 
16As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. 
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Romans 13:1-6 (AV; bolding added for emphasis):

1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 
2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation
3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the powerLaw Enforcement Officer? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 
4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 
6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 
We have special circumstances now that the "wokers" and Antifas and "peaceful protesters" and "defund police" and "SJ" agitators and agitatoresses are now taking possession of the public stage without being summarily chased off by determined groups of Constitutionalist conservative peacemakers.

Of which these are you a consituent?

Just askin' and advisin'.

85 posted on 07/24/2023 8:46:22 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live. To live is to teach another. Fiat Lux!)
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To: GOPJ

>> Hello MSNBC...

indeed, the truly hateful extremists


86 posted on 07/24/2023 8:48:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
If I can not do it, neither can the cops.

You are gravely mistaken. The individuals sworn to enforce the law have much greater latitude as to what they may do to use their authority, and it may mean to kill you if you resist their authority. You had better get this principle fully into your knowledge base, or it may not go well with you in an interaction with them. "Sir, yes sir!" is the correct response.

They are just citizens like you and me.

They most certainly are not, they are sworn officers of the law which you are not. To think that you are of equal authority in a confrontation is a deadly error in your ignorance and lack of fear of a person who may justly terminate your existence.

See my post #85 in this thread.

The middle-finger flipper was just as ignorant as you seem to be. Considering the prevalent increasing lack of respect for these peace officers, in this confrontation the officer acted quite well within his purview of exemplifying a warning to others, like you, of the nature of what "law-abiding" means.

Do you understand how beneficial it can be to you to grasp the concept?

87 posted on 07/24/2023 9:29:34 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live. To live is to teach another. Fiat Lux!)
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To: imardmd1

You might take note however that the Supreme Court has included “flipping the bird” as free speech. You may THINK (or feel) that should not be so, but, it is the law.


88 posted on 07/25/2023 1:22:37 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: imardmd1

Uh-huh. And, what more important duties was this cop not performing for taxpayers while tracking down and then beating up somebody who merely briefly insulted him? Not to mention the aftermath (MANY more resources squandered.)

If the bird flipper had SIGNIFICANTLY impaired in some way the officer from performing his duties, I’d have a different opinion. However, a middle finger in this situation is not “significant impairment” - unless of course the officer has poor self-control, which, I’ll admit, seems to be the case...


89 posted on 07/25/2023 1:33:31 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: imardmd1

BTW, I understand that it is beneficial to NOT live in a Police State, quoting the Bible of all sources to try to justify the unjustifiable...

My goodness.

There’s gotta be a reasonable middle ground, and restraint by police, in these matters, for a “Free Republic” to function.


90 posted on 07/25/2023 1:38:39 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: MeganC

Ditto! Sad it has to be said.


91 posted on 07/25/2023 1:40:03 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: imardmd1
You are the one who is gravely mistaken.

The individuals sworn to enforce the law have much greater latitude as to what they may do to use their authority, and it may mean to kill you if you resist their authority.

Nope. This is the USA not what ever God-Forsaken hell hole you live in. Here the police are public SERVENTS not masters of slaves.

"Sir, yes sir!" is the correct response.

Just when did I enlist? They are not military, I am not military. We are all citizens together. In fact COP stands for Citizen On Patrol.

Considering the prevalent increasing lack of respect for these peace officers, in this confrontation the officer acted quite well within his purview of exemplifying a warning to others, like you, of the nature of what "law-abiding" means.

Incorrect once again. Mr Policeman does not have ANY sort of authority to make me "exemplifying a warning to others". He may arrest me but that is IT. I am sorry you live in a lawless hell hole run by warlords but this is the US.

Here any punishing is done by the courts with a judge and jury, not by some roided up dude in his pretty blue magic uniform.

92 posted on 07/25/2023 6:43:41 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: imardmd1
groups of Constitutionalist conservative peacemakers

Is THAT what you think the police are?

Seek help.

93 posted on 07/25/2023 6:44:51 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Here any punishing is done by the courts with a judge and jury, not by some roided up dude in his pretty blue magic uniform.

My FRiend, it is going to be interesting to see what happens next when you offer your opinion in these exact same words while fllpping your middle finger to the officer who is enforcing the law that you are resisting, that he is sworn to uphold with whatever force is necessary, and is calling for backup.

Good luck!

94 posted on 07/25/2023 8:44:35 AM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live. To live is to teach another. Fiat Lux!)
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To: Paul R.
Uh-huh. And, what more important duties was this cop not performing for taxpayers while tracking down and then beating up somebody who merely briefly insulted him? Not to mention the aftermath (MANY more resources squandered.)

That's just asinine talk, from the kind of person who would much prefer that regulators of disorderliness would direct their attention elsewhere, a very juvenile attitude toward authority.

Here is one of the views one gets from the internet (click here):

o Sworn law enforcement officers are those who have taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, their state, and the laws of their agency’s jurisdiction.
o Sworn officers also have the responsibility to ensure the safety and quality of life of the communities they serve.
o People depend on law enforcement officers protect their lives and property.
o Officers and detectives maintain a helpful presence in their communities.
In the end, it is not beneficial to the sworn officer in the line of his duties to ignore the detrimental effect that scoffers publicly disrespectful of the law, mocking its enforcers, holding them in derision and as unprofitable servants, bring to the tenor and reputation of the wholesomeness of the community, and their own personal reputations, effectiveness, and safety as well.

You've probably never heard of the existence of "broken window policing, but I suggest that you look up the term and ponder on it.

If any of your friends is an experienced professional lawman, let me suggest that you seek his/her counsel on that aspect of their occupation. If they are really being effective (and your churches in their basic functionas well), they will have to spend less time on violence and more time on he issues under consideration in this thread, which indicate that parents in that community have generally been lacking in the upbringing of their children to be responsible and accountably proficient in making mature decisions and conduct in the community.

To add, your approach to this question is not very conservative at all, and I am thinking of the community mindset in which I grew up in, in the 1940s and 1950s when we were at war, and very serious about the substantive matters that constitute an educated disciplined life.

95 posted on 07/25/2023 11:25:36 AM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live. To live is to teach another. Fiat Lux!)
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To: imardmd1

I suggest you find some dictatorship you can take over. Lil’ Kimmy is a slacker by your standards.


96 posted on 07/27/2023 5:25:05 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Don’t flip off the cops.

Most people learn this quite early in life. Too bad this dude didn’t.


97 posted on 07/27/2023 5:26:33 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I hope that poster doesn’t have any kids... (And most people consider my wife and I to be pretty strict.)


98 posted on 07/27/2023 5:26:56 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
You can’t track down and beat someone because they flip you off

In a civilized society, you certainly can.

99 posted on 07/27/2023 5:27:38 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: imardmd1
the officer who is enforcing the law that you are resisting

Give the finger is not against the law.

According to the SCOTUS.

So you can just take your fascist butt back to North Korea.

100 posted on 07/27/2023 5:37:41 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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