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April 19, 1993: 30 years since the Waco siege ended | What went wrong? Who was responsible?
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| 18 April 2023
| Calum Roche
Posted on 04/19/2023 4:36:06 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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posted on
04/19/2023 4:36:06 AM PDT
by
ShadowAce
To: ShadowAce
In 2023, we know the FBI lies and covers up almost reflexively.
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posted on
04/19/2023 4:46:40 AM PDT
by
marktwain
To: ShadowAce
It’s hard to believe Netflix would have an accurate account.
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posted on
04/19/2023 4:47:53 AM PDT
by
\/\/ayne
(I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
To: ShadowAce
When the ATF named the original attack “Operation Showtime”, you know what their attitude and aims were. It was not justice or even law enforcement.
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posted on
04/19/2023 4:49:25 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
To: marktwain
A national police force is neither wanted nor needed in a Free America.
To: ShadowAce
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posted on
04/19/2023 4:52:41 AM PDT
by
freedomjusticeruleoflaw
(Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
To: ShadowAce
don’t really recall much there to be “debatable” ...the DERPS got away with it and we now have the thugs taking entire national elections....without any pushback to speak of
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posted on
04/19/2023 4:57:55 AM PDT
by
mo
("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
To: ShadowAce
. . . (ATF) attempted to execute a search warrant . . .
This is not true, which calls into question the entire report and the miniseries it references. There was no attempt to exercise a legal search warrant. If they had walked up to the front door and said they had a search warrant, it's likely (and certainly possible) that no one would have died.
But the ATF Rambos, looking for headlines, went in guns blazing and people started dying.
After the initial fiasco, when things stablized, they still never actually tried to show a search warrant.
My own personal opinion is that Koresh was wrong not to come out once it was clear it really was US government agents who had invested the compound, but the first day was 100% ATF (and their chain of command) fault. And based on that first day, I can see why he felt he had a principle to uphold.
Of course, the fact he was a serial statutory rapist may have had something to do with his refusal to surrender.
I won't be watching this because we don't get Netflix. If they can give tens of millions of dollars to the Obamas, they don't need any of my money. But based on the promo blurb I wouldn't be watching this one anyway.
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posted on
04/19/2023 4:59:41 AM PDT
by
Phlyer
To: Phlyer
Moreau went to town (Waco) regularly to have breakfast at Whataburger. The cops could have easily picked him up on any day.
They wanted to play special ops and have a shootout. They blew it, they were at fault, idiots.
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:03:17 AM PDT
by
9422WMR
(45 1. Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
To: ShadowAce
I have read that the only FBI/BATF folks killed, were killed by friendly fire.
And coincidently they were previously employed as body guards/state troopers in Arkansas under Clinton.
The Branch Covidians were sacrificed to eliminate a couple of witnesses, to test public response to mass murder by our own government, and to test the effectiveness of propaganda.
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:05:11 AM PDT
by
SisterK
(it's controlled demolition)
To: Phlyer
Koresh went into town everyday.
They could have nabbed him then.
Something else was going on.
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:07:25 AM PDT
by
SisterK
(it's controlled demolition)
To: ShadowAce
President Clinton, the manwoman Janet Reno, are both at fault for the sacrificial burning of those children, during “ The Inteernational Year Of The Child”!
To: ShadowAce
Janet Reno said she took responsibility?
This is not the first FBI driven insanity.
It was not the last either.
And in wackie Waco, Dravidian's and the Waco Bikers fiasco.
The Fed's feel compelled to use their magnificent database, to find the answers?
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:13:00 AM PDT
by
Texas Fossil
(Texas is not where you were born but a State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
To: ShadowAce
Ironically, this series does not exist on netflix.
So the post is moot (it’s an ad for the series).
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:13:16 AM PDT
by
logi_cal869
(-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
To: marktwain
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:15:01 AM PDT
by
Texas Fossil
(Texas is not where you were born but a State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
To: Highest Authority
“A national police force is neither wanted nor needed in a Free America.”
It is Forbidden the Federal Government. Period.
But they ignore that and do it under a different name.
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:17:07 AM PDT
by
Texas Fossil
(Texas is not where you were born but a State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
To: ShadowAce
I think the correct name should be:
The Waco Massacre
One thing that came out of that atrocity though;
The presence of military armor at the Branch Davidian compound answered the question, “Will the military fire on American citizens?” once and for all.
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:18:17 AM PDT
by
Tupelo
(A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
To: ShadowAce
I saw the program. Maybe a little less swagger by the ATF would have saved some lives. I don’t feel sorry for the ATF agents who are supposedly traumatized. They should have arrested koresh outside the compound when opportunity came, then go to the compound and knock on the door - with a warrant.
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:18:48 AM PDT
by
virgil
(The evil that men do lives after them )
To: ShadowAce
Oops: It’s early here. Forgot which app I was in. Also forgot whether I’d seen it.
But I did watch this series the Friday after it came out. It was just ‘ok’, but my memory is that it rubbed me the wrong way, failing to ask the right questions. In fact, it angered me.
iirc, the only revealing detail beyond what I already knew was the lack of a single command on scene. Once the negotiator was sent packing, no one else was released and, save for a handful who escaped, they all died at the hands of HRT’s actions.
But I’m not watching it again to give a detailed account of the flawed series.
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:24:34 AM PDT
by
logi_cal869
(-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
To: marktwain
Amen. Things have gotten worse not better.
The FBI is just one example of the corruption in DC.
Anyone that trusts the FBI deserves what that trust is worth.
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posted on
04/19/2023 5:30:15 AM PDT
by
wita
(Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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