Posted on 03/07/2023 3:26:56 PM PST by daniel1212
I can trace my family back to the late 1800's....
I had a Uncle and Aunt that went to Indian School.
A spinoff from the Iroquois were the Cherokee. They were mild in comparison, but they did their own share of taking over other tribes' land as they migrated down to modern day Georgia and Alabama. A friend of mine who's part Cherokee likes to joke with me (I'm pretty much all white) that "y'all took our land", knowing that my response is always "right after y'all took it from the Muskogee".
The Comanches attacked the Apaches,
the Apaches attacked the Pueblos,
the Pueblos fought the Navajos, the Navajos fought the Utes,
the Utes fought the Kiowa,the Kiowa fought the Wichitas, the Wichitas fought the Cheyennes, the Cheyennes fought the Kaw, the Kaw fought the Arapaho,
the Arapaho fought the Pawnee, the Pawnee fought the Sioux, the Sioux fought the Bannocks, the Bannocks fought the Blackfeet, the Blackfeet fought the Shoshones, the Shoshones fought the Piutes, the Piutes fought the Hopis, the Hopis fought the Apaches, the Apaches fought the Comanches.
Full circle. No whites involved at that time.
Not the tribe in Cleveland?
lol
No mention of the Shawnee or Tecumseh?
Most hated tribe?
Liawatha is a member and she belongs to the democRAT tribe!
“The Sioux (at least on the plains). That’s why the Crow and the Blackfeet allied with the U.S. Army.”
The Blackfeet were a branch of the Lakota (or Teton) Sioux. The Crows (Absaroka) were not Sioux at all. The Crows hated the Sioux, and many Crows became scouts for the US Army. No one much liked the Blackfeet, except the Gros Ventre, with whom they were neighbors.
Ok, but like most things, whitey is much better at stuff. Especially at war and killing others. What was the point of your post?; that humans are violent or something else?
The Lenni Lenape/Delaware Indians were mostly peaceful. The Pennsylvania colonialist forced them to move west after the Walking Purchase. By 1780, there were virtually NO native Indians remaining in Pennsylvania.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_Purchase
From my readings, it seems that the most feared plains indians were the Blackfeet (or Blackfoot). I’m surprised they weren’t mentioned.
E.g.:
“The Blackfoot of Montana and Alberta were once regarded as the most aggressive tribal people of the North American prairies.”
https://www.hfg.org/grant_summaries/blackfoot-traditional-models-of-aggression-and-healing/
Douglas V. Weed, wrote a great book titled “They Never Surrendered” about Southern AZ Apache who still raided and caused havoc along the U.S.-Mexican up until the mid-1930s.
He argues that the Indian Wars did not technically end with the surrender of Geronimo in 1886 and noted that many residual Apaches retreated shortly thereafter into the Sierra Madre Mountains
The Cawseeno tribe was the most prosperous.
One aspect of some of the plains tribes most people do not realize: they willingly offered the use of their wives to visiting men as a sign of friendship. Lewis and Clark’s men on the journey often took part in these ‘gestures’ of friendship. As a result two things happened: they often stayed with one tribal group longer than planned and most of them later died of various STD’s. This practice likely ended as more and more whites settled in.
The Plains indian sign for the Comanche was the snake. That might tell you something. They drove the Lipan Apach out of their territory to the West as soon as they began to control the supply of horses running wild in S. Texas and steal more of them in Mexico.
“I have heard the Iroquois were unusually cruel to other tribes and were feared and hated by them.”
Most of the American Indian tribes were brutal. The LAST thing any white wanted was to be captured by an Indian band.
To those tribes torture was entertainment. For instance, a Comanche captive was often tortured in a fiendish manner, but the object was to keep the poor victim alive as long as possible to prolong his or her agony.
After the Council House fight the Comanches took out their pique on some dozen captives they were holding, torturing them to death in a most barbaric fashion: The six-year old sister of Mathilda Lockhart — who had herself suffered incredible brutality at the hands of the Comanches before her rescue — was skinned alive and roasted over a fire until she died.
A lot of so-called Hispanics look like they have so-called American Indian genes. I say so-called because I think the government is insulting them by giving them all the same check-box on forms. Same with so-called blacks. There are obviously many tribes and nations they come from, and their history is given short shrift.
I can tell you that in the state of Montana during the 1980s (that is when I lived there) the different tribes hated the Blackfeet because they took and kept slaves historically from other tribes. as a young kid I did not understand the hatred till another kid told me that the slavery continued all the way up till the 1950s with the bureau of Indian affairs ignoring it and those slaves being classified as members of the Blackfeet tribe
The Pima supplied many men as scouts for the army.
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