Posted on 02/11/2023 7:57:24 PM PST by thefactor
LOL!!!
I was laughing at the comment that President Trump is the equivalent of tempered steel vs. DeSantis is a pin cushion.
And now I’m laughing at you!
That quote was referencing Biden. You don’t think Biden wants to raise taxes and increase the welfare state?
Gasparino is off his meds,,,,,Gov. DeSantis is a close second to Trump.
I don't think Biden wants anything except brown sugar on his oatmeal and whipped cream on his pudding.
If you think Joe Biden is making any decisions, creating any agenda, or influencing policy in any respect, you must have a hard time figuring out what's happening to your country or the world.
the experimental shots are a failure...
they didn’t stop the spread of the kung flu as trump originally advertised...
The left?
You still buy the R vs D lie?
Which of the former Presidential timber for your R team was ProTrump, Pro MAGA, Pro Americans first/Swamp Last?
Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney?
What about the Cheney’s?
Yeah, the 1980s,1990s,2000s,2010s, called and the lie of R vs D was changed to MAGA vs R AND D aka the Swamp..
Trump has the same enemies I do..
The R party is one big enemy that Trump infiltrated so he could play the reindeer games the R and D Swamp set up..
Enjoy your Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama era.
It’s back in style with China Joe..
All seems right in the country again, doesn’t it?
After 4 years of Trump..
Hated those years didn’t ya?
I feel much the same way. I think DeSantis would be a fine candidate in the Presidential position that still exists in our minds. But the problem is, that idealized presidency that still works hand in hand with lawful-constitution-abiding legislature and judiciary exists only in our mind.
I am angered that our country, with all the people and resources, gives us candidates like George W. Bush and Al Gore or John Kerry. Those were our choices. Pick one, or vote for the other side.
I don’t like or dislike DeSantis any more than I like or dislike Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. DeSantis is a politician exactly as they are. It is what it is. DeSantis still plays by the political rules, with those risks and rewards that erode him or accrue to him in that process.
And all those politicians mentioned including DeSantis are likely better at political governance in its current iteration than Trump will ever learn to be.
But the problem is, we are not in a battle for the current iteration of political governance.
We are in an existential battle, in the next 20 years, for our country and we need someone to fight that battle.
The ONLY one I have seen, at a national level who has displayed that capability, and as a unique validation, has made his (and our) enemies reveal themselves as they stand on their hind legs and howl, is Trump himself.
And that has value.
hoping and relying on 1 man to get 47 states in line with the other 3 states in our country is insane...
this all starts at the local levels up to your own state houses...
people need to get to work in cleaning up politics in their own states...
That is true, but experience has shown us that without leadership, success is less likely in that dynamic.
But even less likely with a Presidency that is indifferent, never mind openly hostile as Obama clearly was, and Biden clearly is.
I see you left out RWR. I voted twice for Trump. I’d vote for him again, but he still won’t be elected. That’s the problem. He gets more traction on FR blasting DeSantis than going after Biden….so a guy that isn’t even running is more of a threat to the country than somebody who’s in office right now and will surely run again? The only-Trumpers are running on emotion, not a clear strategy. Just like Trump.
trump’s “operation warped speech” against desantis has created hostility amongst his supporters...
destroying a man’s reputation for doing things right isn’t a winning strategy...
I left out RWR because I didn’t see him in the same light as Bushes, McCain, Romney’s of your R party..
And as for Trump going after R’s today, he’s in campaign mode because of a stolen election.
And btw, he goes after Biden a ton, too.
He can multitask..
If DeSantis’ name wasn’t on the Presidential 2024 polls, Trump wouldn’t see it everyday when he looks at the polls.
Trump is campaigning today. Just like he did in 2015 when your country began spying on him from day one..
Trump would be governing today if not for the Swamp stealing an election from him..
Blame stolen elections and blame the pollsters that show DeSantis as receiving the second most votes or even more votes than Trump on Presidential 2024 polls..
Trump went after the R’s running for 2016 in 2015/2016..
DeSantis is now the Jeb Bush/Ted Cruz/Chris Christie/Kasich/Rubio main contestant for Trump in 2024 today..
That could be shot down immediately by DeSantis if he said I am not running for President in 2024..
Until then, get used to Trump campaigning..
It’s the only thing they allowed Trump to do as he would be in DC today governing and not running for a second term now..
There’s a few things you left out but that’s a pretty good assessment from a truly conservative standpoint.
But you know the more I listen to the Trump supporters here, there’s a very common theme in all of them whenever any of the horrible things he did as President are pointed out.
“But he’s a fighter!”
That’s it. That’s all they can come up with. But then when you point out he didn’t really fight the deep state, not one EO against them, not one budget veto, all he did was act tough on Twitter, they don’t have any response, except “well I like his mean tweets and you’re just a wuss if you don’t too.”
Seeing this behavior over and over, it’s becoming more clear their devotion to Trump is based purely on this phony image he has created of himself on social media. They believe that just because he says harsh things online that it directly correlates to actions being taken, when there is actually a complete disconnect.
Most of his online rants aren’t even about how he’s fighting, they’re really more about him playing the victim card. I personally always thought that proved how weak and ineffective he has been about actually fighting the deep state, but to his supporters it apparently is their version of fighting.
I’m going to be keeping a closer eye on this going forward, as I believe that his social media persona is actually who these Trump supporters are truly in love with, not the man himself. The Wizard of Oz is probably a good analogy.
Factoring in the Q too. It portrayed him as a humanitarian, Savior of Western civilization and the world, yes globally. He is selfless beyond your average citizen and only he can save us from the deep state and global cabal.
There is some ‘guilt’ too, as Trump continuously blames his faithful for his legal woes. It’s only happening because the DS is after them and he’s in the way. It gets very strange, the deeper you go.
The constant claim that Trump deferred to the advice of the supposed experts around him like Fauci, and therefore Fauci is to blame for everything, don’t add up when compared to Trump’s own statements on the matter. Here’s just one example, but there are other interviews where he says the same thing:
https://nypost.com/2021/05/25/trump-it-was-obvious-to-smart-people-covid-came-from-wuhan-lab/
“Dr. Fauci, who I always got along with pretty well, but I usually did the opposite of what he wanted,” Trump said. “Fauci said the vaccine would take three to five years and probably wouldn’t even happen. And I got it done in less than nine months.”
“I think the best bet ever made was I bought millions and billions of dollars of vaccine before we knew it worked, before we had it approved...”
No matter what, Trump got it done, regardless of the effectiveness of the vaccine. I doubt anybody else would have gotten the job done so quickly.
It’s very easy to have 20/20 hindsight after the fact. Trump got it started and the country did the rest, no matter what the results and no matter what the vaccine makers did and no matter what the experts around him said or did. Without Trump, Fauci would have just been lost in the crowd, and nobody would be talking about him.
Again, Monday-morning quarterbacking doesn’t matter when the deed is done, consequences and all.
Good point about Q, another phony online persona that has no bearing on reality, that Trump used as a sort of mind control over possibly millions. The NFT cards portraying him as some sort of super hero are another example.
At this point you have to start believing it’s not simply an accident that Trump has created these phony virtual personas designed to convince people that he’s actually issuing Executive Orders against the deep state, blocking their budgets, ordering the AG to do anything at all, as the President has the authority to do, when in fact he did none of that.
I think it’s a given he’s using these phony virtual images at this point. The question needs to move on to what types of scientifically-based mind control methods may be at work, because they certainly have been effective.
Thanks for admitting you have a completely closed mind on the subject.
It was a lot easier to get it done when he EO’d mRna vaccines in Sept 2019.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.