Posted on 02/08/2023 10:12:23 AM PST by Jamestown1630
Show me a decent picture and I’ll pay attention.
Dixie Lee Ray also was governor of my state and my dad knew her somewhat because he was an executive-level manager at Hanford. I have heard in vague terms about her organization having had custody of a craft but the topic never came up in official meetings at Hanford!
Something obviously happened to him, but I don’t buy how he has interpreted it and what he’s made of it. He’s a very imaginative person - his books prior to the whole alien thing were brilliant in their genre.
And that’s all I’ll say...
I agree, he bought their story after the alleged brutal violations of his body by these benevolent things? He does seem sincere but he’s not thinking objectively.
Would have taken a pack mule to carry a professional - level camera of that time into the site. I know because my uncle ruined his back lugging those things around.
There are lots of pictures. Even before today’s technology, photos could be manipulated. I don’t think they’re very useful even if one does believe that this is really a nuts-and-bolts ‘thing’.
What’s more interesting to me are the ‘physical trace’ issues that Ted Phillips studied; and materials that have been and are being analyzed.
You just have to get used to his accent.
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Then they could have made a coherent transcript to compensate. Else useless.
Yeah, he seems to be flirting with/obsessed by demonic forces at this point.
I spoke with Dr. Jacobs and Don Berliner on a few occasions. The former struck me as mostly harmless and a bit of a pot head. The latter seemed pretty level headed.
Jabobs's new reality is rather darker than what Whitley is hawking.
When you think that Strieber claims the same thing and then consider his book "Wolfen" is the result of a download, it raises some rather frightening questions about his "visitors."
Then, of course, it may be nothing more than figments of Strieber's and Nolan's very active imaginations.;-)
Or not.
Nolan has done extensive research on the abnormal caudate putamen structures in the brains of those who have had experiences with "visitors." Such research was submitted for peer review at Stanford IIRC, though I have not seen Nolan's paper on this subject.
Yep. Even his doctor told him he was the victim of a rather brutal rape (lots of internal tissue damage), presumably at the hands of his abductors. As far as I know, Strieber hasn’t expanded on that story.
My view is that pictures (or even videos) of this stuff are a “flat land” approach to a much more complex phenomenon.
UFOs are an experience—which includes telepathy effects and trace “hitch-hiker” effects that can follow people throughout their lifetimes.
There is a strong case to be made that the craft are themselves conscious in some way we do not understand—or at a minimum can remotely link to consciousness.
Photos and “the experience” are like the difference between four year old finger painting and fine art.
The notion the “real thing” could be confused with other craft or natural effects is laughable on its face.
There are confused folks, fraudsters and disinfo folks out there—but they are easy to identify for those familiar with the field.
Of course, that doesn't mean it isn't accurate.
Your discussion hints at the really cool philosophical question—where do ideas come from?
I am convinced (including from my own experience) that we can “tap into” truly creative ideas which we then can call our own—but if we are brutally honest with ourselves we know we got them from “somewhere else”.
In my case I “get” those ideas during the dream state and then “recall” them when I get up in the morning—and need to write them down quickly before I forget them.
That creativity was the key to my success in my profession.
Plato used to write a lot about this stuff.
Strieber claims that his first ‘encounter’ was in 1985. ‘Wolfen’ was published in 1978.
I personally interpret Vallee’s ‘control system’ to be an adaptive mechanism within our individual and collective psyches.
There must have been numerous of these acting during the long course of our development. When you think of how drastically, and relatively quickly, a new technology - even something like writing - can change us and our worlds, it makes sense to me that we might require or evolve an ‘adaptive’ mechanism like that.
With regard to ‘a “flat land” approach to a much more complex phenomenon’, this could very well be true of some experiences. One thing Vallee has written is that the phenomena are showing us that we don’t understand time and space.
The Trinity incident (his latest book) is part of the key to help Congress unlock the secrecy.
https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Events/1945/trinity.htm
You might enjoy Terence McKenna’s take on this—a variation on what you saying:
https://psychedelicsalon.com/podcast-261-the-definitive-ufo-tape/
I just loved this quote:
“information is loose on Planet Three. Some kind of very strange thing is going on.”
Abductees are always first abducted as children, even if they don’t remember it. And it’s multi-generational.
He has mentioned it vaguely but doesn’t talk about it.
I think I heard McKenna interviewed a few times before he died. I could never get into him as I’m very suspicious of knowledge or conclusions claimed to be derived from the use of psychedelic substances.
Sources for that are Jacobs, Budd Hopkins, and Mack.
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