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Putin offers 4 conditions for peace…
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Posted on 03/08/2022 8:10:58 AM PST by chuckee

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To: Responsibility2nd

Exactly how did they do that? I didn’t realize the 82nd had jumped into Kalinagrad.


61 posted on 03/08/2022 9:31:38 AM PST by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: chuckee

Putin is losing, and he knows it.

Zelensky should tell Putin to get out of Ukraine, and return Crimea.

Putin’s is at the end of the line. The military, citizens, and oligarchs have had enough of him.

Russian soldiers will.find every excuse aginable to not enter Kiev where they know they will die.


62 posted on 03/08/2022 9:38:06 AM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: PGR88
You are helping FReepers see clearly the idiocy of the progressive, DC deep state warmongers and their idiotic mainstream media sloganeering.

I still remember when FR's Putinists were calling everyone on the forum "warmongers and neocons" for saying Putin was about to invade. Then the invasion happens, and here you are, hypocritically outraged, and still daring to call others "warmongers" in defense of your totalitarian regime. Even richer when your posts read like the most recent dispatch from shitty Russian blogs or Q-Tard websites. In your defense, though you've said some wild BS, you haven't YET began to lecture us about the 17 military biolabs in Ukraine or other made up BS being spread on this forum. So while you are absolutely a propagandist, and a shameless one, you aren't the WORST one here.

63 posted on 03/08/2022 9:38:18 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Well yes. Yes I do. If you contrast the goals of Obama, Biden, Soros, Schwab and other New World Order elitists versus the goals of Putin who only wants to protect and defend his nationalist interests: then yeah. I support Russian goals every time.

sigh

Better dead than red.
64 posted on 03/08/2022 9:43:15 AM PST by TexasGunLover
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I actually read and watch different sources for news. What do you do?

If you are so hot - please take your family to Ukraine and fight. they will welcome you. DON’T involve good Americans who don’t want to be robbed by taxes or have their sons and daughters killed in another pointless, corrupt deep-state war which you cheerlead with stupid cliches like “Ukraine liberty.”


65 posted on 03/08/2022 9:45:35 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88
DON’T involve good Americans who don’t want to be robbed by taxes or have their sons and daughters killed in another pointless, corrupt deep-state war which you cheerlead with stupid cliches like “Ukraine liberty.”

Remember, dummy, YOU are the one repeating Russian BS across this forum, while the undeniable fact is that Russia invaded Ukraine--not the other way around.

Ukraine had no military that could invade Russia. We're seeing that now. They are killing Russians with MANPADs and Javelins because their regular army just doesn't stand a chance.

The US was not planning to put nukes into Ukraine. (They haven't done it with the other countries that border Russia) or any weapons system that could be a threat to them.

Russian bullshit about "promises" from the US not to expand NATO are exposed by the fact that Russia has actually broken every single arms agreement they've signed with us since 1991, resulting in them becoming the most powerful nuclear force in the world.

Russia has more nukes than the US, UK and France combined, rendering claims that it is "threatened" a bunch of horseshit.

So when you start ranting and raving about a "deep state war," remember, YOU are the one telling the West that they should surrender to a warmongering power who is in league with every other anti-American dictatorship on planet Earth, from China to Venezuela and Iran.

That's not me, dummy. That's all you, no matter how many times you falsely and deceptively attempt to paint your opponents as "deep staters" or "supporters of Joe Biden." At the end of the day, the only person who is clearly anything... is you, as the anti-American Putinist who regurgitates the worst Russian propaganda possible on this website.

66 posted on 03/08/2022 9:52:18 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: WASCWatch

“Russian soldiers will.find every excuse aginable to not enter Kiev where they know they will die.”

I agree. Putin is brutal but he is not stupid.Putin does not want the headache of occupying Kiev with a civilian insurgency over the next 10 years taking shots at their occupying troops, hit and run javelin attacks on their tanks, assassination attempts on their puppets, etc. Putin made that decision before invading. This is not about Kiev and they are stalling by circling Kiev while they attend to what they really want, closing off Ukraine in the East to the Black Sea, recognition of Crimea as a Russian territory and establishing the 2 Eastern primarily Russian provinces as breakaway republics as well as assurances of Ukraine neutrality and assurances Ukraine will not join NATO or the EU. Odds are, one way or the other, he will get what he wants. In the end, it has little to do with US vital national security interests.


67 posted on 03/08/2022 9:52:50 AM PST by chuckee ( )
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To: SMARTY

Seems to be exactly what they are doing.

Also giving enough time for two million Ukrainians to pack up and leave.

Their strategy is old-fashioned, but effective.


68 posted on 03/08/2022 10:00:33 AM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: chuckee

Tell Piss Poor Putin to cram it.


69 posted on 03/08/2022 10:10:58 AM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: chuckee

Go away, Poutine.


70 posted on 03/08/2022 10:11:14 AM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: chuckee

I agree. Putin is brutal but he is not stupid.


Reportedly, another Russian general officer is going home in a bag. Was that part of Putin’s plan, too?


71 posted on 03/08/2022 10:17:08 AM PST by lodi90
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To: chuckee; CodeToad


72 posted on 03/08/2022 10:35:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; PGR88
GPH, when does your plane to Poland leave, on your way to Ukraine to fight in The Pelosi Battalion?

Please be sure to post your first-hand Combat Updates.


73 posted on 03/08/2022 10:38:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: lodi90

“Reportedly, another Russian general officer is going home in a bag. Was that part of Putin’s plan, too?”

“Reportedly” Do you mean like in reportedly a Ukrainian pilot shot down 5 Russian Migs in 4 minutes? Even if this simple fact was not bull propaganda, which I will not concede, does anecdotal incidents draw a full picture of the battle in Eastern Ukraine where the real war is being fought and civilians are fleeing under the shelling. Have you looked at a map there to see the growing red areas put out by the international news media and defense sources here that are now under Russian control? And, lastly, when is the last time you have seen a General officer killed in combat anywhere. Very rare occurrence even when you are winning the war. Generally, when it occurs, it is an accidental hit and there is another general right behind him to replace him.


74 posted on 03/08/2022 10:54:18 AM PST by chuckee ( )
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To: chuckee

No, I mean “reportedly” like the other Russian general who got a snipers bullet and had a funeral in Russia a few days ago.


75 posted on 03/08/2022 10:57:46 AM PST by lodi90
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To: TBP

“Tell Piss Poor Putin to cram it”
“Go away, Poutine”

Good argument. I always liked succinct emotional virtuous moral outrage. But the problem is I don’t think he will listen to me. He may listen to you if you pick up a gun and go over there to demonstrate your outrage. I think you will find outrage is not a sufficient defense against an overwhelming military force chopping up an underwhelming, albeit courageous, defense. That’s why sane folks make concessions to buy time to survive and fight another day. Apparently, your mental toughness and virtue prevents you from subscribing to that notion.


76 posted on 03/08/2022 11:12:55 AM PST by chuckee ( )
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To: chuckee

So many actual great statesmen told is for years that is what Putin wanted, not “Reconstructing the Soviet Empire!”tm, as many gaslighters claim.

And if Ukraine kept poking the Bear, at US prodding, he would invade and get exactly that. Listen to Lee Smith:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/ukraines-deadly-gamble

All the braniacs in The State Department caught again with their thumbs up their butts. We are led by idiots, and WWIII is the closest its been in my lifetime.


77 posted on 03/08/2022 11:33:24 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally. The war is on Biden and Obama.)
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