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CDC is hiding the true number of Myocarditis Cases in Covid-19 Vaccinated Teens
dailyexpose.uk/ ^ | 1/3/2022 | THE EXPOSÉ

Posted on 01/03/2022 12:54:58 PM PST by ransomnote

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To: gitmo
We are taking Ivermectin, D3, Zn, and HCQ and my son is also taking Azithromycin and Nitazoxanide.

Buncha dopers, y'all.

Meantime, by watching the obituaries, I've harvested six trucks
and more dope and guns and cash than I know what to do with.

Stop crying, start winning.

Folks that croaks leave behind valuable stuff.

21 posted on 01/03/2022 2:04:03 PM PST by humblegunner (Ain't drownin', Just wavin'...)
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To: gitmo

December 2019 we saw the opening shots of this war on the elderly. January 2021 was the full scale conflagration. The entire world is in “Lockstep”. Young people are merely collateral damage


22 posted on 01/03/2022 2:04:49 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Tommy Revolts

My vision exactly. I talked to my son in HS, many of his friends have been FORCED by their parents to get the jab. The evil is this: Moloch, parents sacrificing your children for your own good. The parents are TERRIFIED of catching the C flu from their children and force their school age kids to get vaxed. Special place for parents like that.

I tried for 18 months to get the C flu…finally a few months ago my kid caught it at school and passed it to me, God Bless his heart! He was over it in 2 days, me 6 hard days- now we both have natural immunity, something the vax Nazi’s can never have ( the vax destroys any natural immunity you ma6 have had).


23 posted on 01/03/2022 2:10:49 PM PST by delta7
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To: Don Corleone

Thank God you pulled through. I really wonder if Fauci and his “medical elite” are ever going to get their up and comings. They are literally killing people and the ruling bodies don’t seem to see or care, or both!


24 posted on 01/03/2022 2:13:40 PM PST by ducttape45
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To: ransomnote
The under-reporting factor of forty-one is the average magnitude of under-reporting that occurs in the VAERS system for the most serious adverse events following vaccination.

I love the faux precision of this made up statistic.

25 posted on 01/03/2022 2:33:06 PM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled CDC is hiding the true number of Myocarditis Cases in Covid-19 Vaccinated Teenssemimojo wrote:
The under-reporting factor of forty-one is the average magnitude of under-reporting that occurs in the VAERS system for the most serious adverse events following vaccination.

I love the faux precision of this made up statistic.

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I thought you would. You loved Fauci's statistical lies with a passion. 95% efficacy really means the 'vaccination' only reduces your risk of getting Covid by .8 of one percent. You loved that, too, didn't you?

You probably found Pfizer's 'faux precision' irresistable. Pfizer elected not to test people with symtoms of Covid and therefore just didn't count their illness in their trial data. Their faux 95% 'efficacy' stat would have been %19 percent if they had, you know, checked to see who got sick after the 'vax' instead of 'sampling' those who got ill, testing some, and excluding others entirely by not testing them but instead designating them 'suspected covid'. 

Boy the plandemic has lots of faux precision for you to enjoy. I didn't think you'd go for Kirsch's data though because he outlines how he arrived at his estimate so that people understand where the number is from and if they disagree, can dispute it with their own estimate etc. Not like your hero, Fauci, who doesn't say where he gets his data and CERTAINLY doesn't do the math to make sure people understand. I mean, HOW could he sell a 'vaccine' that actually only reduces risk of illness for  .8 of one percent FOR TWO MONTHS, and then grows smaller and smaller until the vax increases risk of illness? Not even he could sell that!

26 posted on 01/03/2022 2:42:19 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
...he outlines how he arrived at his estimate so that people understand where the number is from and if they disagree, can dispute it with their own estimate etc.

Oh really?

In the linked article by Kirsch he says:

"For a long time, I’ve been on the record as saying that the rate of myocarditis is around 1 in 317 for teenage boys. That was a conservative estimate since it used a VAERS under-reporting factor (URF) of 41, which is reserved for only the most serious events.

Since the CDC calls this “mild” (even though every cardiologist I’ve asked says there is no such thing as “mild” myocarditis), we’d expect a URF of perhaps 80 or more since nobody died and most had a short hospital stay."

And then later in the article says:

"So I went with a very conservative URF=41."

Frankly, I don't see a lot of rigor in his calculation of URF but maybe you can point me to his calculations.

27 posted on 01/03/2022 3:13:39 PM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo
There's a lot of words in that post, Mojo, but they didn't say anything.

You are a man of no substance. A smokescreen intended to distract. A not so artful artist. A bumbling, inept word and number player. In essence, one of the worst shills I've ever seen. Also, you are a banned troll formerly known as Mojo hard at work defending the derp state and their covid hoax and poison vac.

People are on to you, potna.


28 posted on 01/03/2022 4:15:54 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Good to know. I thought it had to go through proper channels and have authorized signatures. Ive heard of some getting rejected for technicalities.


29 posted on 01/03/2022 5:31:42 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( When tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty. ))))
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To: humblegunner
CoronaCash baybay.

So Bumble, whaddya do when you don't get nare one nibble after 4 or 5 troll attempts? Just go watch t.v.?

#BadDayAtTheOffice


30 posted on 01/03/2022 5:36:11 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: semimojo

I’ve been reading his work wherein he shows his reasoning/calculations. You can go find them, but it would take away from snarking.


31 posted on 01/03/2022 8:38:31 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
You can go find them...

OK, I did, and they're a mess.

There are a number of issues but let's just focus on one for now.

His whole calculation hinges on something called PTR (Propensity To Report). This number represents the likelihood someone will actually report an adverse event to VAERS.

According to Kirsch, the FDA says this number is 10 for the Covid vaccines. Kirsch isn't buying it. He says the number is really .25.

So Kirsch says people are 40X less likely to report adverse events to VAERS than the FDA says they are. Wow.

He must have some pretty good evidence of this, right? Well...let's see what he bases this claim on:

"For example, there are 3.9 times as many otitis media infections reported this year in VAERS as in previous years, but there are 17X more events reported. If PTR was same as in previous years, we should have seen 17X as many infections this year. Since we saw only 3.9, it appears the propensity to report is .23 this year, i.e., ¼ of the normal rate."

Get that? There are a lot few middle ear infections reported as a percentage of all events so...there must be underreporting? Even though the same numbers mean there must be overreporting of other events?

Well, maybe I just don't get his ear infection logic.

Let's look at another way he calculates URF. He relies on a study of post-vaccination anaphylaxis at Mass General Brigham. It found a rate of 2.47 per 10,000 vaccinated.

Kirsch then assumes that is the rate that should be reported to VAERS since anaphylaxis should occur quickly and is likely to be recorded. Since the rate reported to VAERS is significantly lower than this Kirsch concluded the underreporting factor is 41.

But there a a couple of problems. First, the MGB study wasn't based on anything like VAERS. Instead of relying on self-reporting they actively followed up with each of the recipients for three days and asked about particular symptoms. If they reported any two, say itching and swelling, it was recorded as an anaphylactic reaction.

Compare this with VAERS. What are the odds that someone who had itching and minor swelling at the site of the injection the next day would run and report it to VAERS?

This illustrates the difference between a passive system like VAERS, and an active one that follows up and solicits reports, like V-Safe.

Clearly this is a giant flaw in his reasoning.

More importantly, much of this debate has become overtaken by events. We don't have to rely on the torturing of VAERS to draw conclusions any more . We have real world data on hundreds of millions of shots.

If the rate of deaths caused by the vaccines are anything like Kirsch says the actual data will be screaming at us.

But it isn't.

It turns out I'm not the only one wondering about Kirsch's numbers. Jeffery Morris, Director of the Biostatistics Division at Penn, has been trying to have a dialog with Kirsch about his claims.

It seems that Morris actually looked at the data from CMS which clearly indicate the background death rate for people getting the Covid vaccine is almost exactly the same as it was for people getting the flu vaccine. For anyone who's interested he addresses this issue and others he has with Kirsch's methods here:

Response to Steve Kirsch's ad hominem attack, and clarifying the key sleight of hand in his argument

So far my research makes me skeptical of Kirsch's claims.

32 posted on 01/04/2022 8:13:52 AM PST by semimojo
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To: ransomnote

1 in 13k is absolute crap. I personally know 3 people who have gotten it after their jabs… no way it’s 1 in 13k…. Way more common.


33 posted on 01/04/2022 8:21:15 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: gitmo

34 posted on 01/04/2022 8:22:19 AM PST by David Chase
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To: ransomnote
I wish the Daily Expose did a better job proofreading their copy.

Clots can then form in the heart, leading to a stroke of heart attack. Other complications of the condition include sudden cardiac death. There is no mild version of myocarditis, it is extremely serious due to the fact that the heart muscle is incapable of regenerating. Therefore, one the damage is done there is no rewinding the clock.

35 posted on 01/04/2022 10:26:03 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: bagster
So Bumble, whaddya do when you don't get nare one nibble after 4 or 5 troll attempts?

I'm happy having shown that not everyone believes this retardation.

Tards can react or not, but the voice of sanity is still present.

Yep, true story.

36 posted on 01/04/2022 12:34:51 PM PST by humblegunner (Ain't drownin', Just wavin'...)
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To: humblegunner
Tards can react or not, but the voice of sanity is still present.

You and I both know that's not the game you're playing.

#BagsterKnows


37 posted on 01/04/2022 1:05:01 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster
You and I both know that's not the game you're playing.

Yeah. Fact is I don't know dick about Myocarditis.
It's just another of the dozens of things caused by "The Vax".

Interesting that it causes so MANY things.

It'd be great if y'all could pick a single thing to cry about.

So far it looks like the EVIL VAX can make any damned thing happen.

Earlier it was the COVID that could make any damned thing happen.

How about that magnetism and those bionic sea-monkeys?

38 posted on 01/04/2022 1:34:43 PM PST by humblegunner (Ain't drownin', Just wavin'...)
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To: humblegunner
Interesting that it causes so MANY things.

Yea, its almost as if them little spikeys get loose and run around making the bodies immune system attack every damn thing inside your innards. Might just manifest in all kindsa sh*t, wouldn't you think?

I know a guy what got's diabetes. That inhumane poison devil just about ate all his important stuff all to hell, from top to bottom.

I guess that's just how things work. You could probly google it, if you don't wanna keep saying stupid hillbilly sh*t all yer born days.

Or you could just go feed the chickens, with your bare feet.


39 posted on 01/04/2022 1:55:07 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: David Chase
Careful, Chase. You're on the road to one of them crazy anti-vaxxer land.

p.s. Vax f's up your immune system. You know that.

#BlendingBackIntoTheHerd


40 posted on 01/04/2022 1:57:20 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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