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CDC significantly cuts estimate of omicron's prevalence in US
The Hill ^ | 28 December 2021 | NATHANIEL WEIXEL

Posted on 12/28/2021 11:19:26 PM PST by blueplum

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To: BeauBo

let’s hope they don’t get too cozy. Severity of Delta and infectivity of O would not be good for the deer or the lions, tigers and bears. If it happens it’ll possibly be enabled by Delta survivors being succeptible to Omi, as noted in a Sun article a few days ago:

South African experts have reported patients who were infected with Delta are more likely to be re-infected with Omicron, Dr Hopkins said.
https://www.the-sun.com/health/4269064/dual-infection-omicron-and-delta-risk/#:~:text=THERE%20is%20a%20very%20real%20risk%20of%20getting,both%20Omicron%20and%20Delta%2C%20an%20expert%20has%20warned


21 posted on 12/29/2021 4:19:19 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Pajamajan

sorry, got distracted. was the ‘.wut ‘ re: monoclonals?

in case it was, announcement was pre-Christmas. Latest story:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/5-large-texas-centers-run-out-of-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-overall-supplies-dwindling/ar-AASdBnt?ocid=msedgntp


22 posted on 12/29/2021 4:21:45 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: HIDEK6

Omicron has been their excuse for the jabbed getting sick.

If it is now just a large sliver of supposed sickness and “cases”, that undercuts the narrative. So there’s clearly some other more important purpose behind this.


23 posted on 12/29/2021 4:23:39 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: blueplum

Keep spewing that misinformation.


24 posted on 12/29/2021 4:25:02 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: blueplum
And here you were blasting someone for referencing JFK Jr, and yet you quote - liberally I might add - from the thoroughly corrupt .govs and mockingbird media.

You push the police state agenda too clumsily. It's why nobody believes anything you say.

25 posted on 12/29/2021 4:31:27 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: blueplum

It’s because they can’t have the “weak” variant be predominant, they lose control.


26 posted on 12/29/2021 4:45:43 AM PST by TiGuy22
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To: HIDEK6

It’s not meaningless. Omicron is basically a bad cold for most people. If it is the prevalent strain then the need for lockdowns, mandates, vaccines etc., are not really necessary. So, we need to get back to those horrible, deadly strains to keep the hysteria going.


27 posted on 12/29/2021 4:58:16 AM PST by redangus
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To: blueplum
They're pulling the two monoclonals that supposedly don't work for Omicron. https://www.phe.gov/emergency/events/COVID19/therapeutics/update-23Dec2021/Pages/default.aspx

Based on this information, ASPR will pause any further allocations of bamlanivimab and etesevimab together, etesevimab alone, and REGEN-COV pending updated data from the CDC. Shipments of sotrovimab did resume this week, and delivery of 55,000 doses of product has begun. An additional 300,000 doses of sotrovimab will be available for distribution in January.

This notice came out the day after my wife got the bamlanivimab/etesevimab.(Eli Lily)

In our case, I'm not concerned because I'm not worried about Omicron and only got the infusion for the wife in case we had Delta. Judging by our symptoms, I think we have Omicron.

Fatigue
Headache
Other body aches (including lower back pain)
Sore or “scratchy” throat
Runny nose
Sneezing

Of course since she got the monoclonal and I'm taking IVM and we're both taking the Zelenko/FLCCC protocol vitamins, I suppose it could be delta made mild by our early treatment.

28 posted on 12/29/2021 5:22:16 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: Sirius Lee; blueplum
— “You push the police state agenda too clumsily.” So wrote one to “blueplum.”

I agree, Sirius Lee. Mr. bueplum wrote to me, “Like any republican conservative, I have no issues with vaccines in general and for adults in particular.” That is clever argumentation, excepting that others of the same political leanings — as I have — disagree with Mr. bueplum. Rather, by citing the comment above, I too conclude Mr. bueplum does “push” the state agenda with such zeal as to convince me as he wrote, “I don't care what he [Kennedy] has to say about Fauci, that's Fauci’s problem.” But then Mr. bueplum argues for Fauci’s position, so this seems disingenuous.

Mr. bueplum speaks about “a common sense approach to disease control based on facts on the ground.”

“Facts on the ground” should include issues of data collection and manipulation, mischaraterization, changing goalposts and word definitions throughout the last two years “to lfatten the curve,” and massively inflated AND deflated data as simple data anomalies demonstrate, along with my favorite “from” and “with” and “presumed” classifications for causes of death, a taxonomy only a Fauci could love.

Here's a fact on the ground. Official fact.

Data as of 29 December 2021

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/china

( 4,849 reported and “official” deaths in China / 1,439,323,776 total population ) x 100 = 0.00337 %

Quite an anomaly among the "official" data. Facts on the ground.

Sirius Lee rightly observes, "...you quote - liberally I might add - from the thoroughly corrupt .govs and mockingbird media." Also part of the facts on the ground.

29 posted on 12/29/2021 5:55:39 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: blueplum
JFK jr is a hard-boiled democrat wingnutcase, and a long-time antivax pimp that targeted mostly low information women.

Fauci, the CDC, and the media are hard-boiled democrat wingnutcases, and long-time vax pimps that targeted mostly low information women.

30 posted on 12/29/2021 7:23:03 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: 9YearLurker

what misinformation is in post 20?


31 posted on 12/29/2021 6:29:37 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Sirius Lee

you responded to post 22. Post 22 was an article about texas shortage of monoclonals. Define what part of the article is ‘corrupt govs and mockingbird media’


32 posted on 12/29/2021 6:31:33 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

Got caught with em down.


33 posted on 12/29/2021 6:35:35 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: Pollard

one of the signatures of Omi is night sweats, bad night sweats, so watch for that and don’t get dehydrated :)

I’m no longer a fan of IVM since monoclonals were made publically available in 2021 and they work great with no guesswork on dosing. But if you take IVM, realize there are 78 identified drug interactions to watch for which may affect medication you’re already taking or affect how the disease is treated in hospital if it ever comes to that, which I hope it doesn’t:
https://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/ivermectin-index.html?filter=2

Good luck.


34 posted on 12/29/2021 7:16:54 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum
But if you take IVM, realize there are 78 identified drug interactions to watch for which may affect medication you’re already taking or affect how the disease is treated in hospital if it ever comes to that, which I hope it doesn’t:

That pesky ethanol. Breezed right through otherwise.

35 posted on 12/29/2021 7:22:00 PM PST by Stentor ( )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“Like any republican conservative, I have no issues with vaccines in general and for adults in particular.” That is clever argumentation, excepting that others of the same political leanings — as I have — disagree with Mr. bueplum. “

That would be Mrs. Blueplum to you, thank you, tho. Stating a platform plank that supercedes Reagan, isn’t an ‘argumentation’. You may disagree with that plank, but it’s still there on the floor. You can pretend it isn’t there, but it still demands respect.

So many strawmen, so little time:

” bueplum does “push” the state agenda with such zeal “

define ‘state agenda,’ coherently if you can...but do tell, oh wise one of shiny fifty cent words, what agenda isn’t already being actively and enthusiastically offered on a giant silver platter to Dems and Socialists by continuing to parrot those discouraging - Republicans specifically - from protecting themselves from a disease that can maim and kill or maim others? What’s the inspired logic, the grand plan, behind actively promoting hesitancy and spread of infection with scary bedtime stories and fabrications, when doing so only prolongs the pandemic, cancels football, and pressures hospitals into crisis triage and denial of care, and more unnecessary deaths to join the 1 in 6 infected to date and the 1 in every 400 Americans already dead?

Fact. 90%+ of those maimed or dying are unvaccinated.
Fact: Dems are 90% vaccinated.
Fact: Seniors are 85%-90% vaccinated.
Fact: Republicans are 65% vaccinated.
Question: Which party voters are most likely the majority of those dying from covid?
Bonus question: which ‘deep state’ do those voter deaths most benefit?

““Facts on the ground”

yet that somehow doesn’t apply for Jr or other pied pipers? Blind acceptance and blind defense rules the day in denier land.

““from” and “with” and “presumed” classifications for causes of death, a taxonomy only a Fauci could love.”

Au Contraire’ mon frere. It’s the pandemic deniers that absolutely insisted, no, demanded, their use, and demanded the MEDIA differentiate. It happened right here. And the deniers still remain attached at the hip to the words. “Covid is deadly; protect yourself” contradicts the pandemic denier credo and is way too scary a thought for Libras of the world who still can’t make up their minds what to do 2 years on. But dead is dead and the dead weren’t dead before catching Covid. And who did they catch covid from? It doesn’t spontaneously generate.

Re: vaccines: Mumps is 88% effective vaccine, so is pertussis, but not for 12%. Are they not vaccines under this new paranoid freakout about a definition update to reflect science of 2021 or should we go back to the 1798 and 1881 definition for ‘innoculations’ that also weren’t guaranteed to prevent symptoms? I don’t care what we call them as long as they ‘flatten the curve’ on hospitalizations and deaths. And that, they are doing very well.


36 posted on 12/29/2021 10:08:02 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

LOL

Tell me all about Omicron, even though I’ve had it for a week.

Tell me all about IVM and drug combos even though I’m following a protocol that thousands have taken. Other than IVM, the rest is vitamins, zinc and one of two antibiotics which I’m skipping.

Only a small percentage of people qualify for the mAb infusions. Either old, overweight or with certain respiratory conditions like severe asthma. Two out of three have are being discontinued due to them not working on Omicron. Fedgov said more than 70% of US cases are Omicron so they said they’re stopping 2 of 3. A day later, they changed that 70%+ to under 30%. They’ve never been widely available and now will be even more scarce. DeSantis and FL went out and sourced their own because of the scarcity.

My wife was barely eligible due to her BMI. I’m 56, thin and have no underlying respiratory conditions.


37 posted on 12/30/2021 2:49:34 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: blueplum
Define what part of the article is ‘corrupt govs and mockingbird media’

The highlighted part:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/5-large-texas-centers-run-out-of-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-overall-supplies-dwindling/ar-AASdBnt?ocid=msedgntp


38 posted on 12/30/2021 4:27:04 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: blueplum
Mrs. Blueplum,

"...define ‘state agenda,’ coherently if you can." Given that the CDC and FDA are in part "state" institutions, the "state agenda" is and has been to push the mRNA inoculations. Fauci, Collins, Walensky and more are all state actors in the political sense. You know that but choose to quibble about the definition of words.

You do snide quite well, if I am a "wise one of shiny fifty cent words." Which fifty-cent words specifically annoy?

Your recitation of facts is based on the "state" numbers, as is mine below. I cite the sources. Please cite yours. As yours stand, you've defined herd immunity for the virus in the US even while delineating between party registrations, though perhaps you did not intend this in your argumentation.

Offering a view from past centuries does not further discussion or debate about the potential -- and seeming massed -- ADE examples being seen. There has not been a vaccine under FDA jurisdiction before these last couple of years which would tolerate the number of injuries and death from such products. Until this go-around and -- yes -- via a "state agenda" and under "state control" as defined above.

As to the pandemic and all the "from" and "with" and "presumed" dead that you cite without distinction:

26 December 2021

Source: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

( 5,398,446 "global deaths" from COVID / 7,916,000,020 population ) x 100 = 0.0682 %

Worldometer

( 5,415,197 "global deaths" from COVID / 7,916,000,020 population ) x 100 = 0.0684 %

Quite the pandemic we are having, as long as one accepts the official -- and, yes, "state agenda" -- numbers, in spite of the glaring anomalies which suggest the taxonomy, collection, analysis and reporting are not as trustworthy as the trust you place in them, as you detail "1 in 6 infected to date and the 1 in every 400 Americans already dead...."

About one percent of a population die each year; that you so easily miss that death from other causes have folded into the SARS CoV2 category suggests also that you fully accept the "state" numbers, as well as definitions. If so, then the pandemic worldwide is as the sourced numbers indicate, in a range from 0.0682 % to 0.0684 %.

I question the data itself, as I question the initial Corman-Drosten RT-PCR test from January 2020 -- before the pandemic declaration by the WHO in March -- which has led to folding so many deaths into the folder marked "Covid-19." I question the CDC and FDA, because I question government, rather that place my trust in it.

Your use of terms such as "denier" suggest that I avoid vaccinations. I've been vaccinated plenty from the Vietnam forward. I question these particular mRNA vaccines of only the most recent manufacture.

People, it has been alleged have died and been severely harmed by these mRNA products. Some wash this away in the manner of "breaking eggs to make the omelet." Some say there are none because something else is occurring. I say let's investigate.

The current mRNA products are about four to five months old, based on the first FDA EUA, 23 August 2021.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

Your passion for these phase three, clinical trial, months' old products shielded from legal liability by the state's "agenda" is yours. Your passion matches the "state agenda" as above defined.

I remain skeptical.

39 posted on 12/30/2021 5:45:58 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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