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This might be the mother of all password leaks, with billions of credentials exposed
BGR ^ | 7 Jun 2021 | Andy Meek

Posted on 06/09/2021 6:47:55 AM PDT by ken in texas

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To: Campion

Yeah, they’re not getting millions of passwords by hacking millions of personal computers. They’re hacking Yahoo, Apple etc who so kindly stores your passwords for you on their systems.


41 posted on 06/09/2021 9:36:26 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: Pollard

Yep, a Chromebook.

What do you use, smoke signals?


42 posted on 06/09/2021 10:01:46 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: phoneman08

Also, for some sites we have added two-step verification. After putting in your regular password, they text you a one-time password (OTP) which you enter to finally access the site.


43 posted on 06/09/2021 10:05:50 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Faith, not fear. Faith, not faintheartedness.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Or an Authenticator app that generates a passcode each time.


44 posted on 06/09/2021 10:09:23 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: phoneman08

Used laptop from ebay with Kubuntu(Linux) installed and firewall in place.


45 posted on 06/09/2021 10:20:37 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: MayflowerMadam

That’s good advice. I use two-step ID for financial, email pw changes, and Amazon.


46 posted on 06/09/2021 10:25:18 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: cymbeline

The key is to get away from the password model and get into the token model. BUT, the token model is a giant pain in the butt.


47 posted on 06/09/2021 10:28:11 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: ken in texas
TI-99’s, Commodore 64’s and 128’s, TRS-80’s, Macintoshes and even Timex Sinclairs ... -

They'll have to pry my last surviving old Vic-20 out of my hands lol

48 posted on 06/09/2021 10:33:02 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: discostu

“the token model”

What’s that? Did you see the other post about the two-factor method?


49 posted on 06/09/2021 10:34:08 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: cymbeline

2 factor generally runs through the token model. So what happens is you go through a login that probably doesn’t even use your password, or if it does that’s only half the login, and then you get a token. That token is only useful on that computer and for a limited amount of time. It’s very secure BUT the setup time to get it going is rough, and on the user side it’s not terribly intuitive, and often involves user having to install apps on their phone, then you get a bunch of extra headaches when you have to switch phones. But it’s the wave of the future because it greatly limits the use, storage and transmission of passwords.


50 posted on 06/09/2021 10:38:34 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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51 posted on 06/09/2021 10:39:41 AM PDT by bitt ( A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.)
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To: ken in texas

That is a clever feature. May I ask who the credit card company is?


52 posted on 06/09/2021 10:41:35 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: cymbeline

53 posted on 06/09/2021 11:07:39 AM PDT by null and void (When you put bad people in charge expect bad things to happen, often in a spectacular and sudden way)
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To: discostu

“doesn’t even use your password”

Got it. How about using the public-private key scheme that’s used for things like sending credit card numbers. I the user would create a private/public key pair and send the public key to the service I wanted to access. They’d send me a password encrypted with the public key. I’d decrypt it with the private key that only I had. Then I’d send them the password which would be usable only that one time.

Just thinking out loud.


54 posted on 06/09/2021 11:08:02 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Red Badger

I have that one saved.

(I was a certified OS/2 Engineer at one time… There were around 7000 of us.)

I don’t think I’ll be around long enough to ever see Windows multi-task as well as OS/2 did.

~Easy


55 posted on 06/09/2021 11:21:35 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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To: Yardstick

It’s an AAdvantage card (American Airline miles) through Citibank. Not sure if Citi offers it on all its cards.


56 posted on 06/09/2021 11:30:17 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: Campion
Correct best-practice is not to store the password at all, but to store a "salted hash" of the password. That's why a correctly designed site will let you update your password, but can't tell you what your current password is -- they don't have it.

Yup. Any system that can send you a copy of your password is fundamentally broken and shouldn't be trusted.

57 posted on 06/09/2021 11:30:59 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: EasySt
I don’t think I’ll be around long enough to ever see Windows multi-task as well as OS/2 did.

Probably not. Also, I loved REXX

58 posted on 06/09/2021 11:34:24 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: cymbeline

The problem with passwords is like what we’ve got in this story. They get stored somewhere. And if they get stored in plain text, or even encrypted if there’s a large enough quantity of data, they can be stolen. Also they get transmitted from your browser to the server, and if that happens in plain text they can be stolen. And you have to type them in and if somebody got a keystroke logger on your machine they’ve got your password.

That’s the big benefit of the token system, it doesn’t matter if gets stolen. Since that token is only useful for your machine for about an hour everybody in the world could get your token, it does them no good.


59 posted on 06/09/2021 11:36:49 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: ken in texas
Everyone should use a high-quality password manager that stores your passwords locally (not online). I use a program called 'keepass' which runs under Linux. It can autogenerate high quality passwords, a function that I use pretty religiously. I don't know any of my passwords.Here's a sample password that I just had it generate for me: TzSISi77KqYqGhOKaLvQ. It's not gonna get cracked any time soon.

It's also a good idea to change your passwords at least once a year.

60 posted on 06/09/2021 11:37:40 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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