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Pfizer-BioNTech files for U.S. approval of COVID-19 vaccine
Reuters ^ | May 7, 2021 9:52 AM EDT

Posted on 05/07/2021 8:15:22 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest

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To: GOPJ; Dana1960

He missed a couple days of work, saying “I didn’t think it was possible to feel this horrible and still be among the living.”

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I’ve heard the same types of things are said about having COVID...


Really? I haven’t. And, we know several who’ve had it.

And, they now have up to 17 years of immunity to this China flu, unlike the need-a-booster at least annually, experimental shot crowd.

🙃


21 posted on 05/07/2021 9:32:26 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Golden Eagle

That’s not what their report is saying at all. You’re twisting their words to fit your selected narrative.

Israel - with most of its adult population vaccinated - is still averaging 1 death per day. The problem your selected narrative has is that it directly conflicts with observable reality.


22 posted on 05/07/2021 9:37:18 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: Jane Long

I think you’re right about younger people... not so right about older people. It’s too bad our ‘betters’ insist on treating all people of all ages the same when clearly that’s not the case.


23 posted on 05/07/2021 9:37:47 AM PDT by GOPJ (January 6th - Patriot March Against Systemic Voter Fraud.)
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To: doc maverick
said, "I have filled out numerous reports on adverse effects. A friend of mine who works in emergency has too. We send them in, but there is never any response and I suspect that they are trashed"

They're no longer reporting much of anything at VAERS on the Pfiser and Moderna vaccines. They only reported on the janssen vaccines. If you remove the janssen vaccines nearly all of the new reports are gone.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oCNCyjRNx6mp/
24 posted on 05/07/2021 9:38:03 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Jane Long
get your fake vaccine, they said!! It will protect you and make everyone safe, they said!

When in actuality, I’m sure you know, those that have had the vaccines are now shedding various strains of God knows what on others, that cause sickness and complications for them especially children. Apparently it’s admitted somewhere down in the fine print for the injections, that none of the approved figures on TV or in the government are allowed to discuss.

25 posted on 05/07/2021 9:38:49 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (I refuse to submit to their psychological warfare, much less their injections.)
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To: GOPJ

So have I, including from two teenagers who were in good health previously. Doctors in hospitals who post here regularly are reporting seeing younger patients in with COVID now that the elderly are mostly vaccinated.


26 posted on 05/07/2021 9:39:05 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

There’s so many unknowns with this disease... and with the vaccines. And the variants... and the intentions behind the people who created the disease.


27 posted on 05/07/2021 9:42:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (January 6th - Patriot March Against Systemic Voter Fraud.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
That’s exactly what it says. Here’s a direct quote in medical jingo if it makes you feel any better...

Quote: “This shows that most deaths and admissions in a post-Roadmap resurgence are in people who have received two vaccine doses, even without vaccine protection waning or a variant emerging that escapes vaccines.”

There it is, clear as day. MOST DEATHS will be from people who received two vaccine doses.

You do understand the definition of MOST don’t you, or do I need to post that as well?

28 posted on 05/07/2021 9:46:08 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (I refuse to submit to their psychological warfare, much less their injections.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Do you understand math?

If you take 100 people and vaccinate 95 of them, you have 95 vaccinated and 5 unvaccinated.

If 3 of the vaccinated people (3%) die and 2 of the unvaccinated (40%) die, then “most deaths” are from people who are vaccinated. But who’s better off in that scenario? Because I count 97% of the vaccinated still alive and only 60% of the unvaccinated among the living.

Math; it works!


29 posted on 05/07/2021 9:50:06 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: GOPJ

Older people what....not getting over it, easily? Or, not having the longtime, natural immunity?

We know old people who’ve done/have both.


30 posted on 05/07/2021 9:54:16 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
If you take 100 people and vaccinate 95 of them

LOL. What are you talking about, is that some sort of wet dream of yours? The US is nowhere near that, and never will be, much less the UK where the government has done this analysis.

The actual math, not your fantasy numbers, is all in the report, which concludes

MOST DEATHS and hospitalizations will come from those who were vaccinated.

31 posted on 05/07/2021 9:57:59 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (I refuse to submit to their psychological warfare, much less their injections.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Can you explain why Fauci said with the vaccines we will have a lowered immunity against variations of the virus?


32 posted on 05/07/2021 9:59:37 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
It would also allow the companies to market the vaccine directly to people above 16 years of age as well as help corporations and government agencies mandate vaccinations.

There is a lot to unpack in this sentence.

1st...They are already paying social media influencers to write songs, make choreographed dances and post videos of getting the shot.

2nd...This is the main objective. It isn't to ease anybody's fears of the vaccine. It is to clear the way for mandates and vaccine passports. You can't force anybody to take an experimental shot but maybe you can force them to take an approved shot.

Anyone on this forum who is o.k. with this goal of the government and big pharma is a traitor and should be banned from FreeRepublic.

33 posted on 05/07/2021 10:04:27 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: Steve Van Doorn

A) Fauci is an idiot. I really wouldn’t pay much attention to him

B) Without context, I’m going to assume he’s referring to the fact that certain variants (e.g. the Brazil variant P.1) have slight changes in their S protein which make antibodies that were produced against the April 2020 variant or original Wuhan SARS-CoV-2 virus less effective.

Think of the S proteins as little keys that normally fit into the locks on your cell membranes. Antibodies locks that bind to the keys on SARS-CoV-2 virions so they can’t gain access to cells (and also to make it easier for the immune system to clean them up). A slight change to that key means that the antibodies no longer fit quite as well. If you throw enough of them at it, eventually one will “click” into place (i.e. bind), but it takes more chances before it works.

This applies to both the vaccines and the antibodies produced following COVID-19 infection. The city of Manaus had been hit hard by the April 2020 variant of SARS-CoV-2 with something like 70% of the city having been infected. Then the P.1 variant came along and slammed the same city all over again. Why? The antibodies those recovered patients had didn’t quite fit the modified S protein, so they weren’t as effective. There’s an article on it here: https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(21)00183-5/fulltext

It’s worth noting that the levels of antibodies in vaccinated people are very high, like with those who recovered from a severe COVID-19 infection. Those who had a mild or asymptomatic case of COVID-19 have been shown to have much lower levels of antibodies. That’s why the guidance is there to get vaccinated even if you’ve had COVID-19 already: it can provide additional protection against the other variants.

While the change to the S protein can make the antibodies less effective at binding, high enough levels can still provide a lot of protection. So if that vaccine is 95% effective against the April 2020 variant, it might be more like 83% or 87% effective against the Brazil or South Africa or India variants. But that’s still very good.


34 posted on 05/07/2021 10:08:27 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Fauci is an idiot.

Ah you said something that makes sense, So, let’s explore how that happened.

What is it about Fauci that you believes qualifies him as an idiot? This is of course key, because his position has flipped back and forth so many times, that in YOUR case you might very well believe he is an idiot for at times recommending people NOT wear masks, him at times admitting that children DO NOT need the vaccines, etc.

So, be specific, what has Fauci said or done that you disagree with?

35 posted on 05/07/2021 10:23:59 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (I refuse to submit to their psychological warfare, much less their injections.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Go read the article from Baylor.

He's blaming anti-mRNA efforts on (literally)

"Russia, Russia, Russia"

AND

"right wing extremists who also are spreading misinformation about the 2020 election"

That's the proof the Democrats are in on it.

He wants a totalitarian group reporting to the UN to smash opposition.

“Efforts must expand into the realm of cyber security, law enforcement, public education and international relations. A high-level inter-agency task force reporting to the UN secretary-general could assess the full impact of anti-vaccine aggression, and propose tough, balanced measures. The task force should include experts who have tackled complex global threats such as terrorism, cyber attacks and nuclear armament”

To a private company's product.

Forced by the government.

That is the literal definition of Fascism.

36 posted on 05/07/2021 10:44:40 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

This is for emergency use only! This indicates to me a “last resort” drug. Yes, such a drug should “fly” through approval, simply because it is a high risk to persons with one foot in the grave.


37 posted on 05/07/2021 11:56:17 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

You know as well as I do, that the only nonsense is from you; your side has been openly talking about massive propaganda efforts for a while now.

All this for a virus where for people under 70, the risk of death is tiny, but EVERYONE MUST GET THE JAB.

Even though Pfizer is talking out injections being a significant source of revenue going forward, even while they’re pushing to jab children.


38 posted on 05/07/2021 12:06:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

So the virus is a joke, despite having killed over a half million Americans, but they were mostly old people so screw them, right?

And nobody should get the vaccine because Pfizer - a commercial enterprise in a capitalist nation - might make a profit?

So you’re anti-profit, pro-disease?


39 posted on 05/07/2021 12:41:38 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
said, "A) Fauci is an idiot."
We agree there. Which is amazing. Criminally insane in my opinion.

said, "I really wouldn’t pay much attention to him"
He is leading this fiasco. Ignoring him would be like ignoring Stalin during the gulags

said, "variant or original Wuhan SARS-CoV-2 virus less effective"
no. Not less effective. Our immunity bypasses the virus.
your key analogy was right but misleading. You seem to bypass or skip right over the most important part of your analogy. The "keys" can never work against the variant. This point you have right if you mean natural immunity not keys.
you said, "but it takes more chances before it(natural immunity) works"

Notice from your report the variant wasn't noticed in Brazil until right after the mass vaccinations started late January early February (not stated in your article.)
That is NOT a coincidence.
Dr. vanden Bossche PhD virology was with Bill and Melinda Gates foundation senior program officer. He explains how target specific proteins will block your normal adaptive and innate immunity.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AhmxNBxmSuuG/

Report by Dr. vanden Bossche
https://fos-sa.org/2021/03/12/open-letter-to-the-who-immediately-halt-all-covid-19-mass-vaccinations-geert-vanden-bossche-dmv-phd/
40 posted on 05/07/2021 12:56:50 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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