'CATASTROPHIC FAILURE' British ex-defense official says ‘must be a reckoning’ for US bureaucrats who ignored evidence of UFOs

The Sun UK ^ | Tariq Tahir

[SkyDancer]

Well not sure what with things banging into each other and blowing up - heck of a show you ask me.

[cgbg]

If the aliens aren’t using inter-dimensional portals, then they are seriously dumb aliens.

;-)

[SkyDancer]

Went the wrong way through a black hole.

[MuttTheHoople]

Don’t worry...china Joe to the rescue.

[Steve_Seattle]

UFOs have been reported since the late 40s, and if they posed a direct military threat, wouldn't they have acted by now? I'm not a scoffer, but I agree with UFO expert Jacques Vallee, and several Christian UFO experts, that UFOs are not literal flying machines, but energetic productions of a paranormal nature. Their impact on civilization is not through action of a military type, but is on the level of psy-ops, influencing our civilization's belief system.

Is it just coincidental that the messages that early UFO "contactees" claim to have received happen to coincide with New Age and left-wing themes? Back in the 50s, they were talking about one-world government, the divinization of nature, vegetarianism, pacifism, and a sort of vague Eastern mysticism as opposed to traditional Christianity.

[proust]

It does. You don’t use them for propaganda purposes unless you control them completely. Basic military strategy.

[proust]

Agreed. Just like when Sybil and The Exorcist came out. A sudden explosion of MPD and possession cases. Then the abductee thing and false memories were pushed hard in the 80s/90s.

[MAAG]

When the Rapture happens they will use UFO invasions to explain the missing people.

I came to that conclusion more than 40 years ago. Once the church is out of here everything will be a lie, except Gods word, the 144,000 and the 2 lampstands.

[attiladhun2]

Skinwalker Ranch in Utah has the trifecta of the weird and unusual—UFOs, sasquatches, and paranormal activity, like the place is some kind of portal. I believe these things are associated with evil spirits.

[Rockingham]

Not really. Nick Pope had a successful career with the British MoD and, in retirement, is a scrupulous and restrained UFO researcher. His essential point is incontestible: some UFO reports are so detailed and well-documented that the subject cannot properly be ignored by responsible civilian authorities.

[proust]

“the subject cannot properly be ignored by responsible civilian authorities.”

but it has been, for over 70 years. Now Pope has sold out to the Elizondo group who have been engineering the coverup 24/7. He won’t point fingers at “Lou,” just at faceless nameless politicians. It’s sad to watch well meaning researchers sell out like this.

[Rockingham]

I think the UFO subject was ignored by civilian authorities for decades because the US and other countries could neither defend against UFOs nor explain them as benign. Now, with the rudiments of UFO tech beginning to be reverse engineered, a defense can be contrived.

Meanwhile, the US and other governments are gradually easing the coverup and starting a slow, controlled reveal. I think Nick Pope and Lou Elizondo are parts of it, as are Harry Reid, Bob Bigelow, and the official UAP task force.

The government is acting now due to widening public acceptance of UFOs and aliens as real. And with civilian access to space rapidly increasing and hyperspectral surveillance cameras becoming cheap and widely available, compelling accounts and sophisticated images of UFOs will soon proliferate out of control.

Even after official acknowledgement, the UFO phenomena though will not be fully explained. There is far too much that defies the limits of little gray men from space. As Jacques Vallee points out, there is an element of deception about UFOs and frequent and perplexing spiritual and temporal dimensions to UFO encounters. Somewhere, Art Bell must be smiling.

[tired&retired]

“I always wondered what the “Great Deception” could be if even the Elect would be tempted to fall for it.”

Quite a few years ago a woman who I had never met showed up at my door on her trip from Phoenix AZ to Hartford CT. She had heard about me through a friend of a friend and we had never communicated. She made her living as a well known psychic.

I was puzzled as there were two souls sharing her body. Not like an attached parasitic dark spirit, but two spirits. That night she channeled the highest knowledge I had ever heard. But the knot in my stomach told me something was wrong.

She stayed, and at 3 am on the third day during meditation I decided to look at her soul to see what was bothering me.

What I saw were two big football shaped eyes on an alien being I recognized as a “gray.”

I realized then that her psychic abilities were from her emotional consciousness and the masculine aspect was this ET, sharing her body.

The ET was pure logic with no feminine aspect, empathy or compassion. It was like the ultimate narcissist. Apparently they had abandoned their feminine thousands of years ago. They are like half a bean seed that can’t grow. They are stuck.

About a week later in meditation I was told that these were the weeds Jesus spoke of in Matthew 13. The weeds know that the earth changes are coming to bring Heaven to earth, and they can’t grow enough spiritually to survive.

They are creating the earthly turmoil now to make people emotional and hysterical, so they can move in and attach as the logical masculine aspect of consciousness. This is why the current turmoil on earth and why the weeds are so active. They are attaching to emotional people.

It’s not going to work as the weeds cannot create the Love necessary to hold the souls together at higher frequencies of consciousness. This causes a shaking and quaking of the body. This happens anytime a soul is in the higher presence of the Holy Spirit and they are not whole and balanced for the higher level.

This is how the Quakers and Shakers got their names.

The weeds plan won’t work. God is in control and using the weeds to crush the logical ego so people will be in despair and not full of themselves. This will cause them to search for God and the weeds will be burned.

[dfwgator]

[StolarStorm]

When I had a weird dream as a child (five years old), I was "told" by the entity that I was family. I was somehow related to it. It also showed me a fuzzy globe of light with clouds ... and then images of the future. There is some kind of kinship that was conveyed and a warning about the future. I wouldn't say they were friendly or unfriendly, but I was scared afterwards. Woke my parents up and told them what I saw and what the little man looked like (I had no idea what a stereotypical "alien" looked like at the time, but my description was pretty close).

Later on I did get to see real data on the phenomenon. So, while my childhood dream was most likely just a dream... I know that something odd exists because I've directly seen evidence of them on gov systems.

I'm impatiently waiting for some of that data to be released. It was in 1996, Space Shuttle (can't recall the exact mission number, but am digging through my old files and will find it). So, if anyone sees a tape of a "craft" repeatedly buzzing the shuttle in 1996 please let me know. I'm sure it's out there somewhere.... has to be. About hundred people saw it and copies of the tape are out there.

[proust]

STS-80?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNYLWImYGNM

[proust]

or STS-48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVrEQjq1yC0

[MercyFlush]

UFO pictures and video are no less fuzzy and blurry than pictures of other aircraft that are flying at high speed and at high altitude.

Frankly, the SR-71 is no secret yet there are no pictures of one of them at FL 800 making Mach 3. Not one.

[StolarStorm]

No, that's not what I saw. The Shuttle was over South America at the time and it wasn't very cloudy. The "craft" first appeared as a dot over the Amazon and then quickly grew in size. It made three circles around the shuttle before zooming off. It appeared to be a weird wobbling frisbee with a distortion around it like you see when light is altered by high heat in the desert sun. The tape also had telemetry info embedded in the video. Fyi, was also being tracked on radar on board. Norad was also tracking it.

The AF came in and they "decided" it was space debris... which everyone knew it wasn't. Changed orbit, flew around the shuttle and so forth. AF never told anyone not to talk about it (at least not that I know), but they were very aggressive and insistent about getting all the downlink tapes that were in the MCC.

[RoosterRedux]

Your dream sounds a little too accurate to be a dream.

I would suggest that you spurn their advances and claims to be family. They are not to be trusted (so I am told).