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The Need for a Mandatory National Service Program
U.S. Naval Institute ^ | April 2021 | Steve Cohen

Posted on 04/24/2021 11:12:13 AM PDT by Theophilus

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To: Theophilus

I have no intention of being forced or having my children be forced to help a criminal, democrat party government.


21 posted on 04/24/2021 11:36:35 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Mariner

Given authority backed by real punishment

Therein lies the rub. Those days are long, long, long over.


22 posted on 04/24/2021 11:38:55 AM PDT by qaz123 (G)
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To: Theophilus

The only justification for military conscription is the right of the government to call up the militia in time of national emergency.

After WW2, the GI Bill allowed many veterans to go to college.

I would propose, instead, abolition of all federal education subsidies, and replacement by a GI Bill, which only confers benefits after successful and honorable completion of 2-4 years of military service. Combined with service people getting part time classes during enlistment.


23 posted on 04/24/2021 11:41:18 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Theophilus
The Aspen Institute, Service Year Alliance, and Brookings Institution

Never heard of the SYA but the other two organizations are notoriously vile.

24 posted on 04/24/2021 11:42:24 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: joma89

I used to think compulsive national service was a good idea.

After nineteen years of military service and paying taxes since I started working at 11 years old, I have decided that I’ve done enough for my children to not have to do anything for the government other than pay taxes.

I will escape to a non-extraditing Caribbean nation with my family if they attempt to draft my kids, especially my daughters, into military service. Same for any compulsive national service.

Forget it. I’ve paid enough.


25 posted on 04/24/2021 11:43:04 AM PDT by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Shut the deuce up!!! I'll do the fighting!!!)
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To: Theophilus
What Will this Cost? A rough, “back of the envelope” calculation of the cost of an 18-month program in which everyone participates; are paid a small $100 per week allowance and an additional $100 per week goes into a savings account;

So much for $15 per hour for your mandatory volunteerism. Even counting the savings account (probably in long term government bonds so you can get the other half of your when you're 70) that only $5/hour.

26 posted on 04/24/2021 11:43:29 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Police should refuse duty at NBA venues. Let them wallow in their desired chaos without police.)
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To: robowombat

Yup. I cancelled my subscription about six years ago.


27 posted on 04/24/2021 11:45:28 AM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me! )
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To: Theophilus

Forced labor, yeah, that’ll work.
Shanghai the people. Before the CCP comes and does it.


28 posted on 04/24/2021 11:45:51 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Theophilus

So, when will the people ever wake the hell up and finally get down to striking back at this criminal abomination of a lawless, illegitimate tyranny we now suffer under? Is no outrage significant enough to get the people of today off their asses to fight back against all this? GOPee Delenda Est!


29 posted on 04/24/2021 11:46:30 AM PDT by DrPretorius
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To: Night Hides Not
Elites and well connected will find a way to get their exemptions.

Or their kids will get the snappy, black Hugo Boss uniforms to spend their year and a half learning how to order the peons around and inflict punishments on the deplorable slackers who babble about freedom.

30 posted on 04/24/2021 11:46:39 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Police should refuse duty at NBA venues. Let them wallow in their desired chaos without police.)
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To: Theophilus

What is it about leftwing nuts that they think that by forcing us into contact with them they can make us approve of them?


31 posted on 04/24/2021 11:48:46 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Theophilus

That there’s no enumerated power for it and so it is expressly forbidden by the 10th Amendment should matter even more.

What this country desperately needs is to given the domestic legacy of FDR the heave ho ... and all lawlessness based on it!


32 posted on 04/24/2021 11:52:24 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Theophilus

My guess is that this is a scheme to force people who don’t go to college to get the same left-wing indoctrination that college students get.


33 posted on 04/24/2021 11:57:08 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Bonemaker

“Evaders get Leavenworth.”

Just a hair split but most offenders don’t go to Leavenworth even if they commit major crimes. Last I heard it’s still overcrowded. Now they can go to other federal prisons or brigs.


34 posted on 04/24/2021 12:03:11 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Where words can mean anything they can also mean nothing.)
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35 posted on 04/24/2021 12:03:32 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Where Would People Serve? For the most part, it would be better for people to work as far away from their hometowns as possible; and in environments different from their neighborhoods.

Not coincidentally, this is the exact same method cults use to facilitate brainwashing of their recruits.

People from large cities would benefit from working in rural areas.

But the reason people live in rural areas is to be left alone in peace, free of the problems caused by city people and busybodies who won't mind their own business but insist on tempting us to resort to defensive measures.

Kids who have never (or rarely) set foot in big cities would benefit from being assigned to jobs in the inner city.

No, there would be no benefit from being assigned to jobs in the inner city. No one wants to be in the inner city except drug dealers. Everyone else wants out but can't leave because they have nothing of value to finance a move.

The rationale for suggesting this non-comfort-zone approach is simple: Participants would be better off being exposed to people and environments unlike their own.

Cite an example of being "better off," and be sure that the judge of what is better is the person who is being victimized and whose plans and productive years are being smothered by such a mandate imposed by idiot leftist wishful thinking.

If an important objective of the program is to give people an opportunity to meet, work with, and hopefully understand people different from themselves—and create the basis for future common ground—people need to get out of their comfort zones. That means physically, emotionally, socially, and geographically.

I don't think the author understands what the phrase "give people an opportunity" means. A mandate is not a gift but a theft. Mandates do not provide opportunity, they take away opportunity, and replace free will with resentment and thus, hate.

36 posted on 04/24/2021 12:07:41 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Theophilus

I suspect most 18 year old kids have already received the equivalent of 18 months of indoctrination in grade school and high school. They don’t need 18 more.


37 posted on 04/24/2021 12:29:42 PM PDT by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: robowombat

That is about the time I canceled my subscription.


38 posted on 04/24/2021 12:30:35 PM PDT by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: Theophilus

So the draft dodging racist Cohen wants a new draft to work on collective labor projects like the Moscow Canal?

How Stalinist of him.


39 posted on 04/24/2021 12:31:10 PM PDT by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: Theophilus

National Guard? Police academy? Fire/EMS?


40 posted on 04/24/2021 12:31:28 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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