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Secession Discussion (Vanity)
vanity | 12/11/2020 | SoConPubbie

Posted on 12/11/2020 5:10:28 PM PST by SoConPubbie

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To: elenvee; Vermont Lt

vermin Lt’s solution is to bend over a pull his drawers down.


141 posted on 12/12/2020 12:42:29 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Stupidist post ever. You apply static reasoning to a dynamic situation. This is a sign of a very low IQ.


142 posted on 12/12/2020 12:46:47 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

>>> Stop it We have to discuss this. At a minimum a new nation of red states will have at least 200 million people More than enough to defend itself.

You can discuss it all you want... but the discussion cannot be based in reality.

Warm bodies a defense does not make.

Fact is China wants our land, and is about to get it.

Secession would just make that job for them much easier.


143 posted on 12/12/2020 12:46:58 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: SoConPubbie

How are we going to find out if a peaceful secession is possible if we don’t even discuss it or try it for God’s sake?


144 posted on 12/12/2020 12:51:07 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: DoughtyOne

In a fully mobilized civil war II each army would be at a minimum 10 million. The current standing army would be a footnote in history.


145 posted on 12/12/2020 12:54:38 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: CodeToad

Any conservative that lives in a deep blue state at this point is naive and/or an idiot.


146 posted on 12/12/2020 12:59:11 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Safrguns
There is ONE factory that makes tanks? Do you know which state that is in? If Texas ask for volunteers to form a provisional army 10 million would volunteer over night.

The status quo is not a viable option.

147 posted on 12/12/2020 1:02:45 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Actually, there is no deep Blue State, only cities.

I live in Colorado. Half way between Denver and Colorado Springs. Colorado is Blue but not my area, and not much of Colorado outside of Denver.


148 posted on 12/12/2020 1:15:04 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: SoConPubbie

The fraud says using the system to change it is nothing short of insanity. War, however, changes everything. War is on our side. These punks have no clue the violence we are capable of. In fact, I am afraid that if the shooting starts, it won’t end until the last idiot that cries for socialism is a goner. Genocide will be in the history books.


149 posted on 12/12/2020 1:16:58 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: central_va

I’ll bear up under that massive contribution of nothingness.


150 posted on 12/12/2020 1:33:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now.)
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To: central_va

>>> There is ONE factory that makes tanks? Do you know which state that is in?

Hmmmm... TX?... Tell me...

Where do they get their parts?


151 posted on 12/12/2020 2:23:04 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: central_va; CodeToad; Jim Robinson
Any conservative that lives in a deep blue state at this point is naive and/or an idiot.

Is Jim either naive or an idiot?

There are many Freepers stuck in California. Are they all naive or idiots? I'm one of those freepers.
152 posted on 12/12/2020 3:03:18 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

You can’t win by running, seceding, and fighting losing
battles.

You win by standing your ground, educating, and winning
battles.

You and I and the rest of the California brigade, have
stood our ground. It’s a real shame our fellow Californians
didn’t. They surrendered California.

Now they want to surrender half the nation.

Then what? Pretty soon you run out of things to surrender.


153 posted on 12/12/2020 3:24:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now.)
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To: Safrguns

The tank factory is in Ohio.

One might assume that they get most of their parts from neighboring rust belt states.

Except for the weapons on the tanks, of course. The Rheinmetall 120mm main guns are made in Krautla - uh, Germany.

Much of the ordnance is made at the Army Ammunition Depot in McAlester, OK.


154 posted on 12/12/2020 3:36:28 PM PST by OKSooner (The mainstream media is one great lie.)
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To: utford

I’m looking at SC just outside Charlotte or TN - Nashville burbs. From MN. We’re getting out.


155 posted on 12/12/2020 3:40:16 PM PST by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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To: DoughtyOne

We want to form real Constitutional republic with a kick ass armed forces that no blue state or the old USA will mess with.


156 posted on 12/12/2020 3:42:13 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Safrguns

The only tank factory is in OH. So the USA would have to build a factory before they can replace potential battle loses.


157 posted on 12/12/2020 3:44:17 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SoConPubbie

Any succession would be entirely peaceful. Neither side would care if the other left. People could freely move if they choose. It would be more like a splitting of the Roman Empire.


158 posted on 12/12/2020 3:46:32 PM PST by Treeless Branch
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To: Treeless Branch

I agree with you but it is spelled secession.


159 posted on 12/12/2020 3:47:31 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SoConPubbie; StoneWall Brigade; wardaddy; rustbucket; stainlessbanner; l8pilot

Anyone wanting a serious examination of secession needs to read “Shall Cromwell Have a Statue?” by Charles Francis Adams Jr.

https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2001.05.0288

Adams was a respected historian, the 1901 President of the American Historical Association. He was the grandson and great grandson of the two Adams Presidents. He was a Union Army combat officer. And despite his intimate connection with the North and having fought for the Union you’ll see that he doesn’t think that secession was unConstitutional or declared to be so by appeals to law. It was an issue settled by force.


160 posted on 12/12/2020 4:11:06 PM PST by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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