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Shane Vaughn - Massive Victory in Pennsylvania
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Posted on 11/20/2020 2:31:50 PM PST by AggregateThreat

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To: kaehurowing

This election calls for a return of the Viking Kitties!


41 posted on 11/20/2020 3:29:25 PM PST by bitty (Freedom is not Free but is worth the price!)
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To: Robert DeLong
"While under audit the state cannot release their slate of electors."

Says who?

42 posted on 11/20/2020 3:31:08 PM PST by mlo
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To: madison10

No problem. 8>)


43 posted on 11/20/2020 3:31:13 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: MIA_eccl1212

Well, how will that help anything? Aren’t the Leftists just going to make Biden president?


44 posted on 11/20/2020 3:35:47 PM PST by madison10 (Give Thanks to the Lord, for He is good.)
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To: chuckee; All

There’s nothing magic about the number 270. If one or more states fail to appoint electors, the electoral vote required is a majority of however many electors are appointed. Only if there’s no such majority in the Electoral College does it go to the House.

Sure wish people would learn to read the Constitution, politicians and judges included.

From the 12th Amendment: The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.


45 posted on 11/20/2020 3:43:31 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: mlo

He said it, but I didn’t watch the whole thing, so I do not know if he references something to back up that statement. I just watched enough to provide a brief description. 8>)


46 posted on 11/20/2020 3:52:27 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: AggregateThreat

State legislatures demands audit in PA and Mi before certifying.
WTP are being educated regarding Our Constitution (something public schools failed to do for years).
This is good for POTUS. Has been good for POTUS and will be good for POTUS.

Welcome to the world around us, Aggregate Threat
(since 20-05-15)


47 posted on 11/20/2020 4:08:40 PM PST by V K Lee ( "VICTORY FOR THE RIGHTEOUS IS JUDGMENT FOR THE WICKED")
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
There’s nothing magic about the number 270. If one or more states fail to appoint electors, the electoral vote required is a majority of however many electors are appointed. Only if there’s no such majority in the Electoral College does it go to the House. Sure wish people would learn to read the Constitution, politicians and judges included.

"The clock is a double-edged sword in this election because if they don't have enough time but if they can put forward a sufficiently strong case then they may be able to get some Republican Secretaries of States or legislatures to say, 'Look, we just don't have enough time to certify these electors' and if they can bring down the number of electors, 35 [to] 37, from the 305 and bring it down to 267 or 268 then the election goes to the House, where the Republicans win," he explained.

Dershowitz explained that the Trump Team's legal strategy is to pull enough electors away from Joe Biden that he doesn't meet the 270 threshold by the time the election needs to be certified. He also said there's no possible way for President Trump to get to 270 electoral votes in time.

"The goal is to prevent Biden from getting 270, that's why the clock is a double-edged sword," he said.

48 posted on 11/20/2020 4:46:37 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: Flick Lives

“It’s not the Kraken.

“Is it at least a calamari?”

It’s snap, kraken and pop. Rice Crispies.


49 posted on 11/20/2020 4:55:37 PM PST by RAldrich
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To: NurdlyPeon

Please read the Twelfth Amendment. If the full number of 538 electors isn’t appointed, a majority of those electors who ARE appointed could be less than 270, and would elect the President.


50 posted on 11/20/2020 4:55:47 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Robert DeLong
While under audit the state cannot release their slate of electors.
Nice! I hadn't heard that part.
51 posted on 11/20/2020 4:59:16 PM PST by citizen (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. John Adams)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
Please read the Twelfth Amendment. If the full number of 538 electors isn’t appointed, a majority of those electors who ARE appointed could be less than 270, and would elect the President.

Explain that to Dershowitz, not to me. Obviously you know more about it than he does.

52 posted on 11/20/2020 5:00:31 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

Just read the amendment, if you’re able. It’s pretty straightforward in saying a majority of electors appointed, and doesn’t specify 270 or any other number.

I don’t really know or care what Dershowitz knows. He might be assuming that all 538 electors will be appointed.


53 posted on 11/20/2020 5:07:12 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
I don’t really know or care what Dershowitz knows.

And I'm sure Mr. Dershowitz would feel the same about you (assuming he even knows you exist).

54 posted on 11/20/2020 5:15:25 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

No doubt Mr. Dershowitz follows you on social media and hangs on your every word. Perhaps he regularly calls you for advice.

You were the one who brought Dershowitz into this, anyway, for no reason that I can see. The reason that I attempted to explain the matter of electoral majority to you and not Dershowitz is that you, and not he, addressed a post to me.


55 posted on 11/20/2020 5:20:41 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Well let’s see, whose interpretation of the Twelfth Amendment should I believe? One of the greatest constitutional lawyers in the county, or some guy on the internet. Gee, that’s a tough call. I guess I’ll believe you. Hell, Dershowitz probably has never even read the Twelfth Amendment anyway. You’ve convinced me. (Now go away.)


56 posted on 11/20/2020 5:26:49 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

You think Mr. Dershowitz hasn’t read the Twelfth Amendment? Well, I was suspecting that you were stupid, and now I’m certain of it. I promise I’ll go away if you’ll stop the imbecilic posts to me.

I’m not interpreting the Twelfth, anyway, but quoting the relevant part, which does not contain the number 270, period. There is no conflict with Dershowitz if he is operating on the assumption that all 538 electors will be appointed, which is by far the most likely outcome.

A very pleasant good night to you.


57 posted on 11/20/2020 5:39:23 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
There is no conflict with Dershowitz if he is operating on the assumption that all 538 electors will be appointed, which is by far the most likely outcome.

"The clock is a double-edged sword in this election because if they don't have enough time but if they can put forward a sufficiently strong case then they may be able to get some Republican Secretaries of States or legislatures to say, 'Look, we just don't have enough time to certify these electors' and if they can bring down the number of electors, 35 [to] 37, from the 305 and bring it down to 267 or 268 then the election goes to the House, where the Republicans win," he explained.

Well, I see him explaining what would happen if all electors were not certified, but I don't see anything in his statement to indicate that the 270 threshold would be changed. I'll be glad to listen to your explanation. Again, I certainly trust you more than I trust him (which I guess confirms your statement about me being stupid).

58 posted on 11/20/2020 7:05:30 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

Give it a rest and read the damned amendment. Nothing in it about 270 electors, only “a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed”. That’s what it says. Take it up with your buddy Dershowitz.


59 posted on 11/20/2020 7:33:30 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
Please read the Twelfth Amendment. If the full number of 538 electors isn’t appointed, a majority of those electors who ARE appointed could be less than 270, and would elect the President.

That's your statement, right out of post 52.

if they can bring down the number of electors, 35 [to] 37, from the 305 and bring it down to 267 or 268 then the election goes to the House

And that is the statement by Dershowitz. They are in conflict. Explain to me why you are right in saying that the 270 vote threshold would change, and every other judge, lawyer, and politician in the county is wrong. Again, I trust you more than I trust everyone else (the 'stupid' part, remember?).

60 posted on 11/20/2020 7:41:58 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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