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1 posted on 10/17/2020 11:25:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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I see it most obviously on college campuses.

Some time between the early 1930s and the late 1940s, Americans went from building strong, beautiful buildings of stone and slate on the exterior, with wood finishings and interiors, to ugly cement / steel boxes with nondescript and ugly interiors.

It is like a switch was flipped. No doubt the ideology and morality of the country began to flip at that time as well.


51 posted on 10/17/2020 12:22:23 PM PDT by PGR88
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it's not architecture, it has no esthetic value, it is simply construction
53 posted on 10/17/2020 12:25:39 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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A disclaimer: I am not a fan of modernist architecture. It is ok in some settings; if you have an Architectural Digest-worthy house cantilevered off a cliff overlooking the ocean, or perched on a bluff with miles of mountain or desert vistas stretching in all directions, a modernist structure might work: simplicity of line; expanses of glass to admit the out-of-doors; a structure that depends on its setting for effect. But modernism usually seems barren in more ordinary settings, and it tends not to play well with other styles. Most of us have neighbors next door and across the street, and I would be embarrassed to trash their view with a sterile modernist structure.

That said, I will still put in a plug for my favorite movie discovery of recent years: Columbus (Kogonada, 2017). The film is not "about" architecture, exactly, but it uses the modernist architecture of Columbus, Indiana to great effect. An architectural exploration becomes an important narrative prop in an unlikely emergent friendship (John Cho and Haley Lu Richardson, both excellent), and modernism becomes a metaphor. It is very well done. The film itself is an exploration of family, loss, loneliness, relationships and moving on. It is contemplative; there are no zombies, aliens, explosions, terrorists, sex scenes or car chases, and nobody dies. It is brilliantly acted and beautifully shot. It starts very quietly and builds; give it 15 minutes for the story to come to you, and you will be hooked.

The Columbus architecture story is worth knowing. J. Irwin Miller was for many years president and then chairman of Cummins, a big company that stayed home in Columbus, Indiana. Somewhere along the line, Miller got interested in modernist architecture. Under his guidance, the Cummins Foundation offered to pay the architectural fees for any Columbus institution willing to invest in a prestige building designed by an architect drawn from an approved list. As a result, Columbus has an astonishing collection of buildings designed by the top modernist architects of the mid-20th century. I had the opportunity to drive through Columbus earlier this year. The modernist buildings there are moderately scaled, in a way that is appropriate for a smaller, low-density midwestern city. At this scale, good landscaping makes a big difference and they blend very nicely with their more traditionist neighbors. (The biggest and ugliest modernist building, not surprisingly, is a school, which the film mocks as "brutal.") Anyone who wants to hate on modernist architecture should visit Columbus and see what can be achieved if done right. At larger scales, however, massive concrete, steel and glass buildings that can't be balanced by landscaping turn me off.

59 posted on 10/17/2020 12:32:10 PM PDT by sphinx
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Paul Joseph Watson

Why Modern Architecture SUCKS
1,285,686 views•Jun 30, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GapUEKYLE1o

and

Latest Atrocities in Modern Architecture
760,925 views•Apr 24, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lB5QbMxvac

he also referenced this one

James Kunstler: How bad architecture wrecked cities
430,000 views•May 16, 2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1ZeXnmDZMQ

and recommended this one

Roger Scruton: “Why Beauty Matters?” https://vimeo.com/128428182


61 posted on 10/17/2020 12:32:58 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g28970-d109239-Reviews-Old_Post_Office_Pavilion-Washington_DC_District_of_Columbia.html


62 posted on 10/17/2020 12:35:49 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Antifa/Globalist/Statist Architects tearing down YOUR cities and replacing them with hives and monoliths, comrade.


63 posted on 10/17/2020 12:35:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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No one has taught, thus not learned, how to use a coping saw .... generally referred to as:

Can't cope.

Badumbump !

64 posted on 10/17/2020 12:36:15 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true.... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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I like the Grace building. But Kruger couldn't get the stain out. Maybe Vice President Koko can.


67 posted on 10/17/2020 12:37:38 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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A “Traditional” and “modern” split is too broad for me to agree without qualification, but certainly there are specific cases that are easy. A sane defendant would no doubt feel much more comfortable entering a courthouse of the neoclassical style than one of brutalism. One offers the promise of a fair shake. The other says, “Abandon all hope, citizen.”


70 posted on 10/17/2020 12:41:37 PM PDT by Stravinsky (Politeness will not defeat the Marxist revolutionaries)
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Modern architecture is designed to be soul sucking and depress you into submission.


76 posted on 10/17/2020 12:48:32 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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Absolutely!!!!!!


89 posted on 10/17/2020 1:07:51 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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Nearly everything old are better or at least look better, like buildings, homes etc. Take motorcycles for instance. The older bikes and their simplistic engines are a thing of beauty. Same with many cars.


97 posted on 10/17/2020 1:16:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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There is a beautiful U.S. Post Office in downtown Berkeley, CA. It is in Second Renaissance Revival style and is on the National Register of Historic Places. Its inspiration was from Brunelleschi’s “Hospital of the Innocents” in Florence, Italy. It has a mural depicting California culture and history in its lobby. Astonishing to report, the BLM/Antifa have not defaced this lovely mural in this federal building.


114 posted on 10/17/2020 2:36:34 PM PDT by thecodont
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The powers that be would rather have ugly and intimidating buildings like the USSR, to remind you who’s boss.
Beautiful and inspiring buildings are a threat if they make people happy and aspirational.


117 posted on 10/17/2020 2:51:43 PM PDT by GnuThere
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If politics are downstream from politics, Making Federal Buildings Beautiful Again is great and welcome news.

I give historical tours of DC to high-level public and private sector visitors from Europe. I propose to them that the buildings reflect the people, and they are amazed at how the periodization in architecture directly speaks for the attitudes of the political culture.

They’re usually disappointed by the Reagan Building, which has significant classical elements, as that would mark a return to classical culture, but when they see the HUD and Energy buildings, they get it.


118 posted on 10/17/2020 2:52:04 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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Classic architecture speaks of endurance, stability, and permanence.

‘Corporate’ designs look well in business parks, before the storm.


127 posted on 10/17/2020 3:38:53 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Jack Kemp had one of the best lines about the “Brutalist” architecture of the HUD building.

“10 floors of basement.”


133 posted on 10/17/2020 4:14:25 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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I have done building engineering report surveys of many of the federal building in downtown DC. Not only are the Brutalist buildings of the 60s and 70s butt ugly, there are also maintenance and energy nightmares. They have little or no insulation and are extremely drafty.


135 posted on 10/17/2020 4:18:49 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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