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Letter to the President: Student Debt Problem.
Aug 13, 2020 | Self

Posted on 08/13/2020 7:21:31 AM PDT by captain_dave

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To: CodeToad

Actually under Obama in 2010, the government took over the actual direct lending of student loans - before 2010, the US Government guaranteed the loans made by private banks.


21 posted on 08/13/2020 7:51:41 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: captain_dave

Even Trump is slowly climbing onboard with the idea of loan forgiveness.

Mark it down as one bad idea that is GOING to happen.
The political momentum is just going to be unstoppable.

Stopping the same thing from happening again is key.


22 posted on 08/13/2020 7:54:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: volunbeer

Any student who wisely chooses a STEM field is an idiot, as they cannot compete with the Cheap Indian Labor Express, to include OPT, H1B and H4EAD. 40% to 60% of graduates are unemployable in their own graduate field because of this.

Was looking for a position at CSU in Ft. Collins, CO. Hundreds of H1Bs and OPTs employed there. Same as most other colleges and universities. No jobs for Americans, tens of thousands for foreign trash.


23 posted on 08/13/2020 7:56:44 AM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: SamAdams76

You are right all around. I work in higher ed now and about 10% of the work and learning is expected of them for a basic BA/BS compared to when we old farts largely put ourselves through college—if we valued it enough.


24 posted on 08/13/2020 7:58:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: PMAS

“Actually under Obama in 2010, the government took over the actual direct lending of student loans”

They took over the program but they then privatized loans.


25 posted on 08/13/2020 7:58:30 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Ikeon

Pardon me for saying so but kick her ass out. She seems to have time to wreck havoc in the streets but not to work a full time job. Tell her it’s time to spread her wings and fly.


26 posted on 08/13/2020 7:59:00 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Schools probably shouldn’t be in the student loan biz, but just let the private sector work it out. Associate degrees are dirt cheap and can be completed while working. Then further motivated students can pick up from there as 3rd year students for their regular state colleges, or wherever, if they are so motivated.


27 posted on 08/13/2020 8:01:08 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Truthoverpower

The other side of this is I went to UC Berkeley in the 1980s for $1200 a semester and got a degree in chemical engineering

Furthermore I got paid to go to graduate school to get a degree in mechanical engineering

See the pattern here kids?

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Absolutely worthless today due the Indian Cheap Labor Express (and preference for other foreign trash - like Communist Chinese - instead of Americans). Why should an student bust their ass for 4 to 6 years in a real degree, when a foreigner has almost guaranteed OPT after graduation, while an American student can look forward to Starbucks and Walmart employment?


28 posted on 08/13/2020 8:01:20 AM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Also, any decent and motivated student these days can graduate high school with a year of AP college credit under their belt virtually free.


29 posted on 08/13/2020 8:02:51 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: captain_dave

It would be wonderful to see the bloated universities leashed, their cadre of aging tenured Communists and younger acolytes in the Academic Priesthood, unfunded and put out on the streets. Put RICO to use on them.


30 posted on 08/13/2020 8:10:17 AM PDT by katana
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To: jmacusa

Kick her ass out of where? she doesn’t live with me. maybe deadbeat was too strong of a word. she free lances enough to keep a roof over her head but nothing more.


31 posted on 08/13/2020 8:25:03 AM PDT by Ikeon (God is not a liberal)
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To: captain_dave

I do not know if they have done away with them, but at one time, there were offered, a series of college level equivalency tests, that once scored, were accepted at various colleges. I cleared 2 years worth of college, in this manner.

I agree that the “college education industry” is both bloatware and has nearly priced itself out of existence.

I be live that a 2-year college can offer more towards any industrial field, more so than an old stodgy “college of name”.


32 posted on 08/13/2020 8:33:44 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: captain_dave

The only degrees that should have any type of loan assistance are the STEM fields, and even that is kind of iffy, but at least there is a tangible return on investment.
Everything else, you pay the freight.


33 posted on 08/13/2020 9:06:42 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: captain_dave

It’s a better idea than just forgiving the debt or having the government pay it off.

However, I’m just unsympathetic to their plight. Don’t take a loan if you can’t afford pay it back. If you can’t figure that out you should not have graduated high school, much less be going to college.


34 posted on 08/13/2020 9:18:23 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Ikeon

Sorry, then I missed read your post.


35 posted on 08/13/2020 10:19:55 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: CodeToad

They were privatized prior to 2010 with Government guarantees, since then the government is the direct lender and private companies service the loans.


36 posted on 08/13/2020 11:43:30 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: PMAS

That’s not what I said. These loans I am speaking of have been taken off the federal student loan register such that during this Drama Bug they are not in defered.


37 posted on 08/13/2020 11:47:37 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad
Under Obama, government student loans were privatized without the student’s knowledge into private loans.

That means those loans are not on Trump’s deferment.They are also at higher interest rates.


Um, other way around. Under Obama, the government took over all of the loans, and private banks got out. There was some well-publicized interview thing where Obama admin people were talking to banks heads about what was going on with student loans and what they could do to fix it, and every bank head said they got out of that business when those same admin guys took it over.

And they definitely are on the deferment, the wife has several nursing loans from Obama days, and they are on 100% deferment since a couple months ago. definitely nice to make a few 100% principle payments, but I still think FedGov needs to get out of education completely.
38 posted on 08/13/2020 7:22:48 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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