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The Darkness of Henry VII- The Winter King
YouTube ^ | 06-28-2020 | Thomas Penn

Posted on 08/12/2020 4:55:50 PM PDT by NRx

The fascinating, fragile and ruthless reign of the first Tudor king, Henry VII. (Documentary appx 1 hr)

(Excerpt) Read more at youtu.be ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; henryvii; middleages; murderer; renaissance; tudors; usurper
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1 posted on 08/12/2020 4:55:50 PM PDT by NRx
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2 posted on 08/12/2020 5:00:02 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: NRx

Thanks for posting this. Since I was a kid I was interested in Henry (PBS did that!)


3 posted on 08/12/2020 5:14:39 PM PDT by lizma2
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I'm just going to watch, 'The Lion in Winter' (Henry II) for the eleventy-hundreth time. ;)


4 posted on 08/12/2020 5:27:00 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: NRx

Many of Henry VIII’s, Bloody Mary’s and Elizabeth’s problems can be traced back to Henry VII’s decisions. Rather than marrying Arthur to an English girl, he went after Isabella’s daughter due to the incredibly huge dowry, half on the day of marriage and half when an heir was acknowledged. When Arthur died, he didn’t want to give the partial dowry back so he hooked his next son Henry VIII up to Catherine, after almost marrying her, himself. And then the trouble started to brew..


5 posted on 08/12/2020 5:27:54 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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There’s a miniseries about him, “The Shadow of the Tower”, available on YouTube. Excellent acting by the lead actor portraying Henry.


6 posted on 08/12/2020 5:31:26 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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The 2012 Thomas Penn book is well worth snyone’s time.


7 posted on 08/12/2020 5:43:21 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: NRx

Being a noble in England was a hazardous occupation back then.


8 posted on 08/12/2020 6:12:29 PM PDT by crz
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Apparently, so was being a haberdasher.


9 posted on 08/12/2020 6:14:13 PM PDT by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Excellent movie, along with Becket.


10 posted on 08/12/2020 6:40:57 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: NRx

Maddening.


11 posted on 08/12/2020 7:14:48 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: NRx

Thanks


12 posted on 08/12/2020 7:22:02 PM PDT by silverleaf (Great Things Never Come from Comfort Zones)
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Foul usurper, coward, liar and murderer.
God save good King Richard III!


13 posted on 08/12/2020 7:27:52 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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Tell us how ya REALLY feel... 🧐
14 posted on 08/12/2020 7:39:39 PM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: ArtDodger
If someone made a movie and in it a widowed princess was appointed as ambassador to a court so she could stick around and wed her dead husband's 11 year old brother it would be laughed out of the theater.

But that is what happened.

15 posted on 08/12/2020 7:45:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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Things were different, back then. Arranged marriages of children were done, knowing there would be no consummation (sex) until the proper age. Also, regents were appointed to make sure things went as planned.
Also, Catherine of Aragon thought God wanted her to stay in England and marry Lil’ ‘Enry.


16 posted on 08/12/2020 8:12:34 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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Arranged marriages yes, but there had to be consent.

So much history would have changed if everyone involved had followed church law from the beginning in this case and not been such a bunch of grasping power hungry old sinners.

17 posted on 08/12/2020 8:28:14 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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Henry VII was one of those royal misers the Marxists used to call ‘transitional figures’ in the supplanting of feudal values with bourgeois values.
18 posted on 08/12/2020 10:10:01 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Thanks NRx.

19 posted on 08/13/2020 11:28:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1GS6gu1FgY


20 posted on 08/13/2020 11:40:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said "There is no marriage in Heaven." That's why they call it Heaven............one of our co)
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