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How the army taught the Chinese a lesson
Rediff.com ^ | July 28, 2020 16:47 IST | DAVID DEVADAS

Posted on 08/06/2020 2:32:26 AM PDT by IndianChief

How the (Indian) army taught the Chinese a lesson By DAVID DEVADAS

Last updated on: July 28, 2020 16:47 IST

The Chinese probably thought its brutal assault was a knock-out, but they had not counted on the ingenuity, loyalty and courage of battle-trained Indian officers and jawans. David Devadas pieces together what happened on the night of June 15 in the Galwan Valley.

The battle at Galwan on June 15 illustrated how a well-trained army can most effectively deploy resources and tactics on the run, even as masses of deadly opponents attack it as fast as in a video game.

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Many of the Chinese troops were from the PLA's Special Forces, the equivalent of the US Marines. And yet the Indian soldiers were able to chase them deep into the Galwan Valley. Indeed half-a-dozen soldiers went so deep that they only found their way back late the next evening.

Early reverses

The country has mainly been told about the first brief phase of that battle, though the entire fighting lasted through most of that night.

That first phase went very badly for the Indians, since the Chinese ambushed them.

During the ambush, the commanding officer of the 16 Bihar regiment, Colonel Santosh Babu, and the 20 soldiers, including two other officers, who had gone with him were brutally assaulted with medieval weapons.

I am told that Colonel Babu was hit on the back of his head and apparently fell into the stream. It was a fatal injury.

I am also told that more than half of the 20 Indian casualties that night took place when that first group was ambushed by a larger number of Chinese armed with bunches of sticks wrapped with barbed wire.

Amazing comeback

The Chinese probably thought that brutal assault was a knock-out, but they had not counted on the ingenuity, loyalty and courage of battle-trained Indian officers and jawans.

Through the next three phases of that night's battle, scores of Indian reinforcements suffered much fewer additional casualties than they apparently imposed on their opponents.

An officer almost as senior as Colonel Babu, had shadowed the lead team with a small team of soldiers.

When he saw the ambush from a distance, he promptly called in reinforcements. I am told he then led a bayonet charge which took the fight to another level.

I am told the lieutenant colonel (now a full colonel), was one of the Indian Army's most proficient Ghatak warriors. He certainly earned fresh spurs that night.

Since Ghatak warriors are trained for hand-to-hand combat, he and his men were able to inflict severe damage on their opponents, even after the latter called up substantial reinforcements.

Severely outnumbered

Even after Indian reinforcements arrived to take the battle into its third phase, they were severely outnumbered by the Chinese reinforcements -- ten to one, according to one officer's estimate.

Yet, they went into the fight ferociously, proving equal to the larger numbers of Chinese troops.

I am told that most of the reinforcements were from the 3 Medium Artillery Regiment and the 3 Punjab Regiment.

But as word spread that a 'CO saab' had been killed by the Chinese, enraged soldiers of all sorts rushed pell-mell to the battleground.

I am told that two nursing assistants and several signals operators were among those who joined the battle.

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PLA officer captured

One of the Chinese looked important. So, later that night, a spirited bunch of soldiers decided to grab him and carry him back.

That chance move took a turn more like a Hollywood thriller the next morning.

When the Chinese commander called up to ask worriedly about him, it turned out that he was the officer in charge of the PLA special forces in Galwan.

I am told PLA special forces had just arrived to take over the Galwan area. Colonel Babu had gone trustingly because he had a good equation with the CO earlier in charge there. Instead, he found the special forces waiting in ambush.

Far more truculent than those who were earlier deployed, they were the ones who used nail-studded maces.

Of course, capturing a special forces officer is a huge feather in any military cap. As one officer exulted: "The catch was definitely prized. Just think (it is like) we get the CO of the (US)Navy Seals."

Two very different Indian officers have told me that that Chinese officer's capture decidedly turned the tide of the battle at Galwan. Chinese morale nosedived.

Objective achieved

Later that night, a group of Gorkha soldiers joined battle along with a team of engineers who, I am told, wrought havoc of a different sort in the fourth phase of the battle at Galwan, completing the military objective of that night's operation.

After the major setback with which the night began, it is truly commendable that the military objective was achieved amid the fog of war which, in every sense of that term, enveloped that night.

If the government had not chosen to only own the deaths of 20 Indian soldiers, distancing itself from the outstanding displays of prowess on that battlefield, it could have been a tremendous morale-booster at a time when the nation is confused about the government's strategy in response to a strident Chinese challenge.

Indeed, to prevent details from emerging, mobile communications were shut down at the front for a week after the battle, and soldiers's phones were confiscated. The videos some of them had taken of the mayhem on the battlefield by the early morning were not allowed out.

However, some information has spread among other officers, and I have pieced together what happened that night through chats with a couple of mid-ranking officers who have had authentic information from the front.

I hope the officers who led the fight back are duly recognised on Republic Day if not on this Independence Day. The country must acknowledge how valiantly the army fought against great odds that night.

The government, which initially focused on preventing escalation, must re-think how to treat the battle of Galwan in light of the clear evidence that has emerged in the last six weeks that China is in any case intent on escalating hostilities right across the two countries' boundaries.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: battle; china; india; war
If the Gurkhas got in, the Kukris would be busy...

The Chinese have gone back to the status quo ante in 4 of 6 locations now. 1 area is likely to be cleared soon. The Pangong Tso (Lake) area the Chinese have refused to discuss and in fact have brought in heavy boats to patrol the lake as well as possibly land troops behind Indian positions if needed. India is deploying 35000 extra troops in Ladakh.

1 posted on 08/06/2020 2:32:26 AM PDT by IndianChief
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To: IndianChief
Fighting with sticks and bayonets? What is this? So, if they use firearms it's suddenly a real war, but if they use their fists, sticks, and knives - it's not?
2 posted on 08/06/2020 3:09:31 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: IndianChief

I noticed when all of this happened that many Indians referred to the dead as martyrs.

I got the impression that it is considered a very noble deed to fight and even die for you country in India.

That may make an army tougher to beat.

I hope


3 posted on 08/06/2020 3:10:45 AM PDT by dp0622 (Patriots: Better stand tall when they're calling you out. Don't bend, don't brweak, don't back down.)
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To: IndianChief
Why did the Chinese employ medieval/primitive weapons in their initial ambush?

Any word on that?

4 posted on 08/06/2020 3:11:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: IndianChief
The Chinese, and the Russians, used to send generals to Parris Island to observe the training.

Trying to figure out the secret.

There IS no secret. It's just a LOT of hard work. As evidenced by the white splotches on our cammies. Salt from the sweat.

One would think they learned that at the Frozen Chosin.

5 posted on 08/06/2020 3:26:47 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Masks are not about controlling a virus. Masks are about controlling people.)
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To: IndianChief

“Every soldier in the chi-com army is an only son” ~ Thomas Wictor


6 posted on 08/06/2020 3:30:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: RoosterRedux

It is against the “rules” to use (have?) firearms in this area. I think it is a disputed area, and they figure the use of firearms will only increase the risk of escalation.

Until of course one side or the other decides to use them.

Hmm. Sort of like Seattle or Portland.


7 posted on 08/06/2020 3:31:13 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: 21twelve

Interesting comment on firearms. Is there a treaty or agreement between India and China on this or is it merely an understanding?


8 posted on 08/06/2020 3:38:57 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/no-restrictions-on-firearms-india-gives-soldiers-freedom-along-lac-in-extraordinary-times/story-pCcFAcSAkMRschq50Tom1L.html

I just found this article. Another article said the Chinese carried firearms (but did not use them). This article talks about the rules of engagement set by the Indian government. They have now said that the ROE do not prohibit the use of firearms.

So I guess not an agreement in a treaty - just what each nation set up as their ROE.


9 posted on 08/06/2020 4:41:31 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: RoosterRedux

To clarify - the Indian ROE have been revised to include the use of firearms if necessary.

It wasn’t until the war in Afghanistan and the various videos that I realized how our ROE limited us. Seeing young adult males carrying stuff wrapped in sheets in an area where are guys are often getting fired upon.

Men going in and out of the area and carrying stuff. But if no actual weapon was visible, they can’t be fired upon.


10 posted on 08/06/2020 4:47:49 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Supposedly guns are not allowed on the border, so clubs were the weapon of choice. But a number of Chinese had their necks broken by the Gurkhas.


11 posted on 08/06/2020 4:56:53 AM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: SkyPilot

A previous cease fire agreement forbids the carrying of firearms and other weapons into the disputed areas near the border. Being nuclear armed, both sides want to avoid a larger conflict.


12 posted on 08/06/2020 5:05:06 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: 21twelve

Thx much.


13 posted on 08/06/2020 5:20:15 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: SkyPilot

There is a treaty/agreement that modern weapons are forbidden in that area - or something to that effect, hence the hand to hand


14 posted on 08/06/2020 5:23:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: IndianChief

This reads like Stephen A. Smith talking about Michael Jordan . . .


15 posted on 08/06/2020 5:26:22 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: IndianChief
I am told that two nursing assistants and several signals operators were among those who joined the battle.

You don't want to mess with enraged medics and radio guys.

16 posted on 08/06/2020 5:59:52 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: IndianChief

With over a dozen killed on each side, how in the world were modern weapons not used? How did not a single soldier on either side decide it would be a whole lot more efficient to mow down the enemy with his assault rifle than go hand to hand with them with his knife or home made club?


17 posted on 08/06/2020 6:10:12 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Rockingham

Yeah, well, the Chicoms need to rethink their idea of trying to take over those areas with clubs and barb-wired sticks if the want to avoid a larger conflict.


18 posted on 08/06/2020 6:49:36 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

China is not a fully integrated nation. Local military commanders and political officers often have considerable independence. The result can be chaotic and stupid decision making.


19 posted on 08/06/2020 7:46:20 AM PDT by Rockingham
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